Hunter Biden on trial
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Let's face it.... the people in Washington just aren't very intelligent. It would have been intelligent to do what you said but I'll bet it never entered their mind. However, I don't think I would have trusted Trump to stick to an agreement like that.
They could’ve exchanged the ordering documents at the WH prior to heading to the Capitol. Of course, Trump would still have to follow through on it afterwards and could have ripped it back after the swearing in. And by then it would be too late for Biden to welch in kind. I’m not entirely sure how that process works.
It’s too bad they don’t have some kind of “pardon escrow” agent to keep the succeeding POTUS honest. 😂
Here’s the problem with your logic as I see it. If you don’t make an example of these no good, corrupt asshats that actually have broken the law, they will do all this shit again when they are back in office. There will be no grace given to anyone in the Trump administration. Dems will continue to make shit up to try to jail their opponents. Dems are the worst. Rules for the but not for me people. Anyone that has broken the law should be prosecuted to the fullest. F@ck the give some grace bs. Bury them!
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I agree with some of this, but the lies and hypocrisy will never leave Biden’s legacy. Tax evasion is anti-American and the some of the worst. Also, don’t details matter too?
“I have never seen language like this in a pardon document that purports to pardon offenses that have not apparently even been charged, with the exception of the Nixon pardon,” said Margaret Love, who served from 1990 to 1997 as the U.S. pardon attorney, a Justice Department position devoted to assisting the president on clemency issues.
Our president elect pardoned his son in laws father, who was convicted of tax evasion, illegal campaign donations and then tried to set up his brother in law with a prostitute in a room where it would be recorded.
And our president elect wants him to be our ambassador to France.
I'm sure the same people complaining about Hunter's pardon are the same ones that complained when Trump was pardoning his merry bunch 🙄
You have to admit Hunter's case was slightly different. Hunter's a coke addict dirtbag ..
It's completely different, but don't come on here with all this moral high ground and complain when Trump has pardoned people close to him that did some pretty disgusting things.
Shorter. Biden and his crowd are scummy. Like we told you. Add in dumb and purveyors of horrific policies and rhetoric and you have the worst administration of my lifetime.
This pardon wasn’t about the gun charge or tax evasion. You’re missing the big picture.
What father wouldn't give up a little legacy to protect his child?
Dems should be pissed though. This selfishly damages the party. Also sets a bad precedent, although I'm not sure what precedents are even good for, anymore.
Don't underestimate Biden's ability to fk things up!
Obama pulled us out of a difficult economic time and got pre-existing covered.
Hunter was an addict and lied to get a gun. Whistle blowers called Biden the big guy. Not remotely comparable
Biden’s are scummy swamp rats. Lying dirtbags
I don't think Biden will have much of a legacy, outside of presidential scholars. I think his legacy will be that he was Barack Obama's vice president and 100 years from now half the kids in Civics classes will get the true/false question about whether or not he served as term as president wrong.
Yes, the fact that this is a blanket pardon, covering about a ten year period, is quite a doozy. And that's really something to consider, given the insistence of Biden's defenders on the left insisting that the pardon was just, because the charges wouldn't have been brought against anybody else.
Well...that might be a worthy argument, if the pardon only applied to the charges they're referring to.
Obama was the worst President of my lifetime, by a wide margin. The divider in chief. Absolute bum.
Biden Presidential Library will be a garage with boxes and strewn around and some cabinets against one wall.
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Obama pulled us out of a tough economic time. He also got pre-existing conditions covered. A significant achievement that touches tens of millions of lives
Biden wasn’t going to pardon Hunter, Kamala was. But that game plan didn’t materialize!
But for Obama there is likely no President Trump. So I guess give him credit for that.
Obama was the worst president of my lifetime, by a wide margin. Divider in Chief. Absolute bum.
The whole 'Biden was the big guy' thing was discredited:
From Lev Parnas' House Oversight Committee written testimony (full text linked above):
Throughout this entire situation, no credible source has ever provided proof of Joe or Hunter Biden’s alleged corruption in Ukraine. The FBI, CIA, and NSA have all failed to produce any evidence of criminal activity. No respectable Ukrainian official has ever said that the Bidens did anything illegal. Former Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko, who fired Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin, has himself stated “there is not one single word of truth” to these allegations about Joe Biden. Yuri Lutsenko, who succeeded Shokin as Prosecutor General, has also confirmed that nothing ties the Bidens to criminal activity in Ukraine. Even when Mykola Zlochevsky, the co2 founder and CEO of Burisma, was offered a deal on his own criminal charges by Giuliani in exchange for information on the Bidens, he came up empty.
The only information ever pushed about the Bidens and Ukraine has come from Russia and Russian agents, which everyone sitting here today knows. FBI informant Alexander Smirnov has admitted to getting all his so-called intelligence on the Bidens from Russia. According to their own statements, federal prosecutors found him guilty of “actively peddling new lies that could impact U.S. elections.” And as recently as November 2023, a number of Ukrainian politicians sympathetic to Russia were implicated as having helped funnel false information about the Bidens to Giuliani while also being connected to a Russian foreign influence network.
I've always maintained that if there were direct proof of corruption and impropriety from Joe and Hunter Biden or anyone in his administration they should be punished by the full extent of the law. I was never interested in efforts to protect Joe Biden simply because he was president with a 'D' behind his name. I don't think many - or any - posters here were either. There never was conclusive proof of any wrongdoing by Joe Biden in this case.
From what I've read of the Bidens, I do believe Hunter is seriously messed up, but I also believe Joe genuinely cares for him. I don't think he would have pardoned Hunter has Kamala Harris won the election. I think the Trump administration would have made a public display of prosecuting Hunter Biden as red meat for the MAGA base and Biden had the power to spare him going through that. As others have said here, as a dad I would have done the same thing.
Just following suit my man. Following suitWe get it. No need to keep pounding the message.
Look, the reasons this is reverberating as it is (and why the Kushner rebuttal is so flat) are these:
1) Biden not only made a liar out of himself when he personally denied that he would ever pardon Hunter, he made liars out of his aides and supporters when they comfortably repeated the claim.
2) The sanctimony that he and his party were the vanguards of democracy, institutional integrity, etc. Say what you will about Trump (and there's plenty to say about him, of course)...he's never held himself out to be that. Rather, he's the one who has been calling bullshit on all of that -- and Biden just demonstrated it for everybody to see.
3) The blanket nature of the pardon -- including for any and every criminal act that Hunter might have committed going back 10+ years, whether it's been investigated, charged, tried or not.
Given the nature of the arguments Dems (and many Repubs) have always made against Trump -- that he would corrupt the system, doesn't recognize norms, crosses lines other presidents won't cross -- I think it's kind of telling that the primary defense being made of Biden here is "Well, Trump does it too."
Do people saying this realize that they're submarining their own arguments against Trump when they resort to this?
IRS whistleblowers say they were banned from investigating Joe Biden
Gary Shapley And Joseph Ziegler sat down for an interview where they claimed the IRS looks the other way when it comes to the country's powerful elite
www.dailymail.co.uk
No chance. I would bet anything Joe is the big guy. Guy is just a lying scumbag. Kid with gun charges he’s absolving. Had classified docs in his garage. Yet not prosecuted despite a clear case. Lied nonstop as president. Did you see how sweeping the language of that pardon is. I know you have zero ability to be objective so I’m pissing in the wind but Biden is bad news. Swamp filth. Like we’ve all told you
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In addition to pulling us out of a time economic time and healthcare benefits his rhetoric during the inane woke messaging was spot on. I like Obama
