Changed the thread title, to reflect the fact that MTG's wacky push is now not confined to her, but increasingly being adopted by some of her more zealous fellow GOP House members. I'm enjoying this...
So just today MTG has reintroduced her bill to impeach Biden. Apparently the GOP Trump apologists (like Marge) don't consider SWORN testimony in front of an acual Grand Jury (or to be more accurate 4 separate Grand Jurys) EVIDENCE of Trump's guilt in any of four seperate cases. But those same folks want to pretend that an UNVERIFIED account drawn up on an obscure FBI form in front of one of Rudy G's "investiagtors" is somehow the smoking gun to impeach Biden.
Anyone care to explain the difference, because MTG got it completely backwards as she embarrassed herself on the House floor.
Here is MTG, completely lying about what a DF-1023 is and is not. The person providing this "info" has to be a Ukrainian oligarch, because he claims to have had multiple phone conversations with Zlochevsky and oligarchs don't routinely converse and share secrets with peasants.
The timeline and various other factors point to Viktor Medvedchuk a pro-Russian relic of the Yanukovych regime (like Victor Shokin). An article from Time discussing Rudy's trips to Ukraine points out that Medvedchuk was the leader of a pro-Russian party that bent over backwards to assist Rudy's investigation team. They even offered to provide a back channel for the investigators to be able to get info from the Rusians to help them uncover Biden's alleged corruption.
Of course the Ukrainian Govt investigated the charges that Biden got Shokin fired for nefarious reasons, but they determined that Shokin was fired because he was CORRUPT. Btw, that is also the conclusion that Lev Parnas who was a key member of Rudy's team reached as well.
Of course if the Pubs try to impeach Biden, that will allow someone like Parnas to testify. By contrast Medvedchuk wouldn't be able to testify, because he's in Russia, with his buddy Putin. He was originally arrested as a traitor by Ukraine, but was repatriated to Russia when Putin insisted he be included among the 55 or so Russian soldiers that were returned home in exchange for 200 or so Ukrainian defenders of Mauriopol. So another stalwart GOP witness- only the best!
So here's Marge's speech, and all she needs are clown shoes and a bowtie that spins. She completely mischaracterizes what a DF-1023 and how aluable the FBI considered the CHS. Remember this DF dates back to the Trump days, so if the FBI and DOJ "ignored" it, those were Trump appointees. I mean why would they be suspicious of a DF that Rudy delivered, he's only being disbarred in two seperate jurisdictions?
So DANC went back and forth on what the DF claims, but right here in this video Marge claims that it says Zlochevsky paid Biden $10 Million to get Shokin fired. Because apparently Shokin was "investigating" his old buddy Zlochevsky.? Considering the last thing any of the oligarchs who were bribing Shokin wanted was to see him fired and replaced with someone who might actually go after them (and the $$Millions in funds they had stolen and were concealing from the Ukrainian Govt). Zlochevsky would have to be pretty stupid to want Shokin fired, since Shokin had done him a solid and actively prevented the Brits from being able to confiscate $$ Millions in funds Zlochevsky had tried to transfer to Cyprus...
Now if this is too many facts or your interest in reading posts is just to hear uninformed opinion, then I apologize for wasting your time. But if you want to know what really happened, that's why I'm posting background so you can see for yourself how ignorant most of what Marge said is. Marge claims that Zlochevsky wanted Shokin fired, but the reality is that Shokin was very instrumental in assisting Zlochevsky to get illegal funds out of the country. It's true Biden wanted Shokin fired, as did the entire US Admin. This is what the US Ambassador said in Sept 2015, 3 months before Biden urged Poroshenko to fire Shokin...
"We have learned that there have been times that the PGO (ie Shokin) not only did not support investigations into corruption, but rather undermined prosecutors working on legitimate corruption cases.
Now look at which case Pyatt specifically references as an example where the US was extremely upset with Shokin's actions
"For example, in the case of former Ecology Minister Mykola Zlochevsky, the U.K. authorities had seized 23 million dollars in illicit assets that belonged to the Ukrainian people. Officials at the PGO’s office were asked by the U.K to send documents supporting the seizure. Instead they sent letters to Zlochevsky’s attorneys attesting that there was no case against him. As a result the money was freed by the U.K. court and shortly thereafter the money was moved to Cyprus. The misconduct by the PGO officials who wrote those letters should be investigated, and those responsible for subverting the case by authorizing those letters should – at a minimum – be summarily terminated."
So according to Marge, Zlochevsky was so upset with Shokin and his prosecutors aiding and abetting him (Zlochevsky) to transfer $$ 23 Million to Cyprus (where Zlochevsky was in exile) that he,Zlochevsky wanted to pay Biden $$ 10 Million to get Shokin fired? See when you know facts and go beyond the political talking points, you're left with the ludicrous claim that not only did Zlochevsky want Biden to slit his throat (firing his inside guy), but he (Z) paid him (Biden) $$ 10 Million dollars to do it?
Watch the video,that's exactly what she says. Of course she doesn't know the actual facts about Zlochevsky's relationship with Shokin. Because she's never bothered to do a modicum of research. In fact IIRC she refers to Shokin as a "good" prosecutor...
So just today MTG has reintroduced her bill to impeach Biden. Apparently the GOP Trump apologists (like Marge) don't consider SWORN testimony in front of an acual Grand Jury (or to be more accurate 4 separate Grand Jurys) EVIDENCE of Trump's guilt in any of four seperate cases. But those same folks want to pretend that an UNVERIFIED account drawn up on an obscure FBI form in front of one of Rudy G's "investiagtors" is somehow the smoking gun to impeach Biden.
Anyone care to explain the difference, because MTG got it completely backwards as she embarrassed herself on the House floor.
Here is MTG, completely lying about what a DF-1023 is and is not. The person providing this "info" has to be a Ukrainian oligarch, because he claims to have had multiple phone conversations with Zlochevsky and oligarchs don't routinely converse and share secrets with peasants.
The timeline and various other factors point to Viktor Medvedchuk a pro-Russian relic of the Yanukovych regime (like Victor Shokin). An article from Time discussing Rudy's trips to Ukraine points out that Medvedchuk was the leader of a pro-Russian party that bent over backwards to assist Rudy's investigation team. They even offered to provide a back channel for the investigators to be able to get info from the Rusians to help them uncover Biden's alleged corruption.
Of course the Ukrainian Govt investigated the charges that Biden got Shokin fired for nefarious reasons, but they determined that Shokin was fired because he was CORRUPT. Btw, that is also the conclusion that Lev Parnas who was a key member of Rudy's team reached as well.
Of course if the Pubs try to impeach Biden, that will allow someone like Parnas to testify. By contrast Medvedchuk wouldn't be able to testify, because he's in Russia, with his buddy Putin. He was originally arrested as a traitor by Ukraine, but was repatriated to Russia when Putin insisted he be included among the 55 or so Russian soldiers that were returned home in exchange for 200 or so Ukrainian defenders of Mauriopol. So another stalwart GOP witness- only the best!
So here's Marge's speech, and all she needs are clown shoes and a bowtie that spins. She completely mischaracterizes what a DF-1023 and how aluable the FBI considered the CHS. Remember this DF dates back to the Trump days, so if the FBI and DOJ "ignored" it, those were Trump appointees. I mean why would they be suspicious of a DF that Rudy delivered, he's only being disbarred in two seperate jurisdictions?
So DANC went back and forth on what the DF claims, but right here in this video Marge claims that it says Zlochevsky paid Biden $10 Million to get Shokin fired. Because apparently Shokin was "investigating" his old buddy Zlochevsky.? Considering the last thing any of the oligarchs who were bribing Shokin wanted was to see him fired and replaced with someone who might actually go after them (and the $$Millions in funds they had stolen and were concealing from the Ukrainian Govt). Zlochevsky would have to be pretty stupid to want Shokin fired, since Shokin had done him a solid and actively prevented the Brits from being able to confiscate $$ Millions in funds Zlochevsky had tried to transfer to Cyprus...
Now if this is too many facts or your interest in reading posts is just to hear uninformed opinion, then I apologize for wasting your time. But if you want to know what really happened, that's why I'm posting background so you can see for yourself how ignorant most of what Marge said is. Marge claims that Zlochevsky wanted Shokin fired, but the reality is that Shokin was very instrumental in assisting Zlochevsky to get illegal funds out of the country. It's true Biden wanted Shokin fired, as did the entire US Admin. This is what the US Ambassador said in Sept 2015, 3 months before Biden urged Poroshenko to fire Shokin...
"We have learned that there have been times that the PGO (ie Shokin) not only did not support investigations into corruption, but rather undermined prosecutors working on legitimate corruption cases.
Now look at which case Pyatt specifically references as an example where the US was extremely upset with Shokin's actions
"For example, in the case of former Ecology Minister Mykola Zlochevsky, the U.K. authorities had seized 23 million dollars in illicit assets that belonged to the Ukrainian people. Officials at the PGO’s office were asked by the U.K to send documents supporting the seizure. Instead they sent letters to Zlochevsky’s attorneys attesting that there was no case against him. As a result the money was freed by the U.K. court and shortly thereafter the money was moved to Cyprus. The misconduct by the PGO officials who wrote those letters should be investigated, and those responsible for subverting the case by authorizing those letters should – at a minimum – be summarily terminated."
So according to Marge, Zlochevsky was so upset with Shokin and his prosecutors aiding and abetting him (Zlochevsky) to transfer $$ 23 Million to Cyprus (where Zlochevsky was in exile) that he,Zlochevsky wanted to pay Biden $$ 10 Million to get Shokin fired? See when you know facts and go beyond the political talking points, you're left with the ludicrous claim that not only did Zlochevsky want Biden to slit his throat (firing his inside guy), but he (Z) paid him (Biden) $$ 10 Million dollars to do it?
Watch the video,that's exactly what she says. Of course she doesn't know the actual facts about Zlochevsky's relationship with Shokin. Because she's never bothered to do a modicum of research. In fact IIRC she refers to Shokin as a "good" prosecutor...
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