With RFJ Jr bringing back Camelot - as a Republican!
Hunter Biden on trial
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My point is more that I got what Stewart was espousing and prefer Dems to forego the ideal of a cooperative government mindset and go to adopting more of a competitive, corporate mindset which is what Stewart was presenting as a method to more effectively fight back and actually get the shit done that we say we want to accomplish.
Garland was just one of the examples of how that traditional norm mindset beat us that he used which goes like this:
1. Scalia dies in early Feb 2016.
2. Obama nominates Garland
3. McConnell says he won't allow him to go through the nomination process.
4. Dems cry and scream that violates norms, traditions and ettique.
5. Dems/Obama let McConnell accomplish that and end up giving the seat away.
In an alternate timeline it starts the same way then.
4. Dems whine about it and Obama figures out a way/loophole to appoint Garland (maybe use that Gaetz Recess loophole that was suggested to avoid the Senate approval rule)
5. After Trump wins, Pubs impeach Garland and have him removed.
6. Ginsberg dies and McConnell rushes Barrett through.
7. Biden than impeaches Barrett like you did Garland and fills the position. Maybe have an approval ceremony again since I think the Dems had the Senate.
So yeah, Obama being a pussy to go against the historical norm really cost that seat to this day.
The other example used was Biden and the immigration swelling. Biden supposedly strongly believed that it needs to be a bipartisan legislative solution. I actually don't disagree with that and wish it could be true but no, and when that failed, Biden was too much of a pussy to get aggressive with mandates and basically shrugged his shoulders saying 'It failed in congress, so I can't do anything'.
Had he gotten aggressive he could have possibly better nipped it while also aggressively eviscerating congress for their incompetence, particularly Republican senators possibly being a much better campaign message than what he had.
That's a much easier political narrative to push than 'there's nothing I can do and I might upset some libs if my mandates are too aggressive'.
Short story long, I just hope the Dems move more in a corporate competitive mindset than holding on to any belief in long standing political traditions.
Don't be afraid to say 'f#$k traditional norms and ettique. Just get the shit we want done even if it might need creative political/corporate strategies'.
This pardon feels like it might be a move into that mindset. Now we'll see if the new administration will let it stand or figure out a way to override presidential pardons (which wouldn't surprise me one bit).
It's a long, 20 minute watch but he gets into the core around the 12 min point. He does make fun and rip on Dems til then, particularly does a really good impression of Schumer but again the core message starts around the 13 minute mark if you're bored.
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Seems to me you are looking for his approval. Which makes no sense to me, but you do you.
Absolutely unreal how much the left lacks self awareness. Astonishing really.
I've said multiple times in this thread that I opposed Trump and don't think he's fit to lead. I stand by that.
That doesn't make me 'woke.'
You're probably right that I shouldn't care what he says about me. I took issue with him being so wrong about where I stand and mischaracterizing what I've said. For what it's worth, I take pride in being consistent, open and strong in my convictions, but should have just let it go and let him think whatever the hell he wants to think.
I did read the whole post and my statement still stands. But that's okay.... at least you aren't a "Republican" supporting every Democrat position. I've known all along what you are and am fine with it.
Seems like most politicians are above the law....at least at the federal level.
I'd say most people who can pay their way out of things are above the law these days. Unless their crimes are so obscene and egregious (Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein), there are countless instances of celebrities, athletes and politicians who probably would have done hard jail time if they couldn't afford the right lawyers.
Trump, yes - deliberate, 100s of documents, active obstruction. Calls for prosecution and appropriate sentencing.
Biden & Pence, no - negligence, few documents, no obstruction. Their case is on par with HRC’s, who I think should have been prosecuted, but wasn’t. That’s the precedent which applies to B&P. Lower level personnel would get clearances pulled and probably removal from service, so it is different in that respect.
You've said a helluva lot more than that that screams wokeness.
And no, I'm not going to list them. I've been back and forth with you about them many times over the years and I'm not going to waste my time going back and looking up something that everyone knows to be true.
Yeah, and Hunter Biden had access to, and could afford, the right lawyers. And he still couldn't escape those charges and the only way he escaped hard jail time was daddy was the President.
Political witchhunt, indeed.
I'm not saying I agree with the pardon, nor am I saying that Joe Biden didn't go back on what he said about pardoning his son.
That said, short of a loved one being accused/convicted of a truly heinous crime, I can't imagine I wouldn't do the same thing in Biden's shoes.
Another path, would have been Obama nominating a jurist that would've been more palatable to Senate Republicans. Find someone from the Federalist society who is a wolf in sheep's clothing like John Roberts. Have to work with the Senate reality in front of you.
No, McConnell would have blocked anyone Obama nominated.
If I was Biden, I'd pardon Trump. Get all that stuff off the table.
Seems conceivable that this is a preemptive pardon for Joe for crimes which haven’t yet come to light.
So you're admitting you'd have lied.
Why should anyone believe anything you say, if that's true?
Lord God almighty! You believe everything your Lord T says and he's a bigger liar than you are.
Had a couple during the game. Have to say that DANC strikes me as the most disingenuous poster on the WC. He’s smart enough to know when he’s lying.
I’m stubborn, but I’m not a liar. When I’m mistaken, I’ll admit it.
Your alternative scenario destroys our institutions faster, would erode public trust even more, and leads us to a higher probability of an eventual civil war or dissolution.
No thanks.
Has nothing to do with Trump, Swabby. You are another one who has been broken by Trump.
