ADVERTISEMENT

Hunter Biden on trial

Well we saw Biden for what he was right away. Lyin Biden. Let him pardon his son. Take the whole tasteless clan and get out. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence knows their legacy. Let Trump and his family resume their rightful place leading this great nation. The Trumps are basically our royal family. Class.
With RFJ Jr bringing back Camelot - as a Republican!
 
  • Haha
Reactions: 76-1 and mcmurtry66
Tommy, that is ****ing hilarious from the Party that wants to do away with the filbuster and Harry Reid giving the boot to Senate voting traditions.

My point is more that I got what Stewart was espousing and prefer Dems to forego the ideal of a cooperative government mindset and go to adopting more of a competitive, corporate mindset which is what Stewart was presenting as a method to more effectively fight back and actually get the shit done that we say we want to accomplish.

Garland was just one of the examples of how that traditional norm mindset beat us that he used which goes like this:

1. Scalia dies in early Feb 2016.
2. Obama nominates Garland
3. McConnell says he won't allow him to go through the nomination process.
4. Dems cry and scream that violates norms, traditions and ettique.
5. Dems/Obama let McConnell accomplish that and end up giving the seat away.

In an alternate timeline it starts the same way then.
4. Dems whine about it and Obama figures out a way/loophole to appoint Garland (maybe use that Gaetz Recess loophole that was suggested to avoid the Senate approval rule)
5. After Trump wins, Pubs impeach Garland and have him removed.
6. Ginsberg dies and McConnell rushes Barrett through.
7. Biden than impeaches Barrett like you did Garland and fills the position. Maybe have an approval ceremony again since I think the Dems had the Senate.

So yeah, Obama being a pussy to go against the historical norm really cost that seat to this day.

The other example used was Biden and the immigration swelling. Biden supposedly strongly believed that it needs to be a bipartisan legislative solution. I actually don't disagree with that and wish it could be true but no, and when that failed, Biden was too much of a pussy to get aggressive with mandates and basically shrugged his shoulders saying 'It failed in congress, so I can't do anything'.

Had he gotten aggressive he could have possibly better nipped it while also aggressively eviscerating congress for their incompetence, particularly Republican senators possibly being a much better campaign message than what he had.

That's a much easier political narrative to push than 'there's nothing I can do and I might upset some libs if my mandates are too aggressive'.

Short story long, I just hope the Dems move more in a corporate competitive mindset than holding on to any belief in long standing political traditions.

Don't be afraid to say 'f#$k traditional norms and ettique. Just get the shit we want done even if it might need creative political/corporate strategies'.

This pardon feels like it might be a move into that mindset. Now we'll see if the new administration will let it stand or figure out a way to override presidential pardons (which wouldn't surprise me one bit).

It's a long, 20 minute watch but he gets into the core around the 12 min point. He does make fun and rip on Dems til then, particularly does a really good impression of Schumer but again the core message starts around the 13 minute mark if you're bored.

 
Last edited:
My point is more that I got what Stewart was espousing and prefer Dems to forego the ideal of a cooperative government mindset and go to adopting more of a competitive, corporate mindset which is what Stewart was presenting as a method to more effectively fight back and actually get the shit done that we say we want to accomplish.

Garland was just one of the examples of how that traditional norm mindset beat us that he used which goes like this:

1. Scalia dies in early Feb 2016.
2. Obama nominates Garland
3. McConnell says he won't allow him to go through the nomination process.
4. Dems cry and scream that violates norms, traditions and ettique.
5. Dems/Obama let McConnell accomplish that and end up giving the seat away.

In an alternate timeline it starts the same way then.
4. Dems whine about it and Obama figures out a way/loophole to appoint Garland (maybe use that Gaetz Recess loophole that was suggested to avoid the Senate approval rule)
5. After Trump wins, Pubs impeach Garland and have him removed.
6. Ginsberg dies and McConnell rushes Barrett through.
7. Biden than impeaches Barrett like you did Garland and fills the position. Maybe have an approval ceremony again since I think the Dems had the Senate.

So yeah, Obama being a pussy to go against the historical norm really cost that seat to this day.

The other example used was Biden and the immigration swelling. Biden supposedly strongly believed that it needs to be a bipartisan legislative solution. I actually don't disagree with that and wish it could be true but no, and when that failed, Biden was too much of a pussy to get aggressive with mandates and basically shrugged his shoulders saying 'It failed in congress, so I can't do anything'.

Had he gotten aggressive he could have possibly better nipped it while also aggressively eviscerating congress for their incompetence, particularly Republican senators possibly being a much better campaign message than what he had.

That's a much easier political narrative to push than 'there's nothing I can do and I might upset some libs if my mandates are too aggressive'.

Short story long, I just hope the Dems move more in a corporate competitive mindset than holding on to any belief in long standing political traditions.

Don't be afraid to say 'f#$k traditional norms and ettique. Just get the shit we want done even if it might need creative political/corporate strategies'.

This pardon feels like it might be a move into that mindset. Now we'll see if the new administration will let it stand or figure out a way to override presidential pardons (which wouldn't surprise me one bit).

It's a long, 20 minute watch but he gets into the core around the 12 min point. He does make fun and rip on Dems til then, particularly does a really good impression of Schumer but again the core message starts around the 13 minute mark if you're bored.

Your mental illness is showing again!
 
  • Like
Reactions: DANC and TyWebbIU
Your guess is most definitely wrong. And I was never really looking for your approval. Maybe it's time to go hang out with some of those 'many more groups' of people and step away from the keyboard. I'm heading out, so if you want to rage post against me some more, you'll have to do it on your own for a bit.
Seems to me you are looking for his approval. Which makes no sense to me, but you do you.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Lucy01 and DANC
My point is more that I got what Stewart was espousing and prefer Dems to forego the ideal of a cooperative government mindset and go to adopting more of a competitive, corporate mindset which is what Stewart was presenting as a method to more effectively fight back and actually get the shit done that we say we want to accomplish.

Garland was just one of the examples of how that traditional norm mindset beat us that he used which goes like this:

1. Scalia dies in early Feb 2016.
2. Obama nominates Garland
3. McConnell says he won't allow him to go through the nomination process.
4. Dems cry and scream that violates norms, traditions and ettique.
5. Dems/Obama let McConnell accomplish that and end up giving the seat away.

In an alternate timeline it starts the same way then.
4. Dems whine about it and Obama figures out a way/loophole to appoint Garland (maybe use that Gaetz Recess loophole that was suggested to avoid the Senate approval rule)
5. After Trump wins, Pubs impeach Garland and have him removed.
6. Ginsberg dies and McConnell rushes Barrett through.
7. Biden than impeaches Barrett like you did Garland and fills the position. Maybe have an approval ceremony again since I think the Dems had the Senate.

So yeah, Obama being a pussy to go against the historical norm really cost that seat to this day.

The other example used was Biden and the immigration swelling. Biden supposedly strongly believed that it needs to be a bipartisan legislative solution. I actually don't disagree with that and wish it could be true but no, and when that failed, Biden was too much of a pussy to get aggressive with mandates and basically shrugged his shoulders saying 'It failed in congress, so I can't do anything'.

Had he gotten aggressive he could have possibly better nipped it while also aggressively eviscerating congress for their incompetence, particularly Republican senators possibly being a much better campaign message than what he had.

That's a much easier political narrative to push than 'there's nothing I can do and I might upset some libs if my mandates are too aggressive'.

Short story long, I just hope the Dems move more in a corporate competitive mindset than holding on to any belief in long standing political traditions.

Don't be afraid to say 'f#$k traditional norms and ettique. Just get the shit we want done even if it might need creative political/corporate strategies'.

This pardon feels like it might be a move into that mindset. Now we'll see if the new administration will let it stand or figure out a way to override presidential pardons (which wouldn't surprise me one bit).

It's a long, 20 minute watch but he gets into the core around the 12 min point. He does make fun and rip on Dems til then, particularly does a really good impression of Schumer but again the core message starts around the 13 minute mark if you're bored.

Absolutely unreal how much the left lacks self awareness. Astonishing really.
 
He sees it. He wasn't denying he's a total partisan before the election.

But now that Kamala was exposed as an idiot and Joe pardoned Hunter after he said he wouldn't, and now Ohio decides it's not cool to be work any more.

No one likes to be ridiculed and Ohio was one of the ones in front, leading the charge against Trump. Now that he's failed, he likes to pretend he's not one of the biggest woksters here.

It's an amazing transformation!
I've said multiple times in this thread that I opposed Trump and don't think he's fit to lead. I stand by that.

That doesn't make me 'woke.'
 
Seems to me you are looking for his approval. Which makes no sense to me, but you do you.
You're probably right that I shouldn't care what he says about me. I took issue with him being so wrong about where I stand and mischaracterizing what I've said. For what it's worth, I take pride in being consistent, open and strong in my convictions, but should have just let it go and let him think whatever the hell he wants to think.
 
Go back and actually read the post you're replying to before replying to it. Literally the sentence before the one you quoted.
I did read the whole post and my statement still stands. But that's okay.... at least you aren't a "Republican" supporting every Democrat position. I've known all along what you are and am fine with it.
 
I did read the whole post and my statement still stands. But that's okay.... at least you aren't a "Republican" supporting every Democrat position. I've known all along what you are and am fine with it.
I was referring to Sam Harris in the post you replied to, not Kamala Harris.
 
Seems like most politicians are above the law....at least at the federal level.
I'd say most people who can pay their way out of things are above the law these days. Unless their crimes are so obscene and egregious (Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein), there are countless instances of celebrities, athletes and politicians who probably would have done hard jail time if they couldn't afford the right lawyers.
 
I'd say most people who can pay their way out of things are above the law these days. Unless their crimes are so obscene and egregious (Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein), there are countless instances of celebrities, athletes and politicians who probably would have done hard jail time if they couldn't afford the right lawyers.
Yeah .... Trump, Biden, & Pence would be in jail if they were a lowly peon.
 
Seems like most politicians are above the law....at least at the federal level.
Yeah .... Trump, Biden, & Pence would be in jail if they were a lowly peon.
The salient point is the high ground Dems tried to claim was illusory. Biden and this administration are as crooked as it gets. Like the rest of America I’ll take trump all day long over the Biden crowd
 
Yeah .... Trump, Biden, & Pence would be in jail if they were a lowly peon.
Trump, yes - deliberate, 100s of documents, active obstruction. Calls for prosecution and appropriate sentencing.

Biden & Pence, no - negligence, few documents, no obstruction. Their case is on par with HRC’s, who I think should have been prosecuted, but wasn’t. That’s the precedent which applies to B&P. Lower level personnel would get clearances pulled and probably removal from service, so it is different in that respect.
 
I've said multiple times in this thread that I opposed Trump and don't think he's fit to lead. I stand by that.

That doesn't make me 'woke.'
You've said a helluva lot more than that that screams wokeness.

And no, I'm not going to list them. I've been back and forth with you about them many times over the years and I'm not going to waste my time going back and looking up something that everyone knows to be true.
 
  • Like
Reactions: mcmurtry66
You've said a helluva lot more than that that screams wokeness.

And no, I'm not going to list them. I've been back and forth with you about them many times over the years and I'm not going to waste my time going back and looking up something that everyone knows to be true.
You do you man.
 
I'd say most people who can pay their way out of things are above the law these days. Unless their crimes are so obscene and egregious (Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein), there are countless instances of celebrities, athletes and politicians who probably would have done hard jail time if they couldn't afford the right lawyers.
Yeah, and Hunter Biden had access to, and could afford, the right lawyers. And he still couldn't escape those charges and the only way he escaped hard jail time was daddy was the President.

Political witchhunt, indeed.
 
Yeah, and Hunter Biden had access to, and could afford, the right lawyers. And he still couldn't escape those charges and the only way he escaped hard jail time was daddy was the President.

Political witchhunt, indeed.
I'm not saying I agree with the pardon, nor am I saying that Joe Biden didn't go back on what he said about pardoning his son.

That said, short of a loved one being accused/convicted of a truly heinous crime, I can't imagine I wouldn't do the same thing in Biden's shoes.
 
My point is more that I got what Stewart was espousing and prefer Dems to forego the ideal of a cooperative government mindset and go to adopting more of a competitive, corporate mindset which is what Stewart was presenting as a method to more effectively fight back and actually get the shit done that we say we want to accomplish.

Garland was just one of the examples of how that traditional norm mindset beat us that he used which goes like this:

1. Scalia dies in early Feb 2016.
2. Obama nominates Garland
3. McConnell says he won't allow him to go through the nomination process.
4. Dems cry and scream that violates norms, traditions and ettique.
5. Dems/Obama let McConnell accomplish that and end up giving the seat away.

In an alternate timeline it starts the same way then.
4. Dems whine about it and Obama figures out a way/loophole to appoint Garland (maybe use that Gaetz Recess loophole that was suggested to avoid the Senate approval rule)
5. After Trump wins, Pubs impeach Garland and have him removed.
6. Ginsberg dies and McConnell rushes Barrett through.
7. Biden than impeaches Barrett like you did Garland and fills the position. Maybe have an approval ceremony again since I think the Dems had the Senate.

So yeah, Obama being a pussy to go against the historical norm really cost that seat to this day.

The other example used was Biden and the immigration swelling. Biden supposedly strongly believed that it needs to be a bipartisan legislative solution. I actually don't disagree with that and wish it could be true but no, and when that failed, Biden was too much of a pussy to get aggressive with mandates and basically shrugged his shoulders saying 'It failed in congress, so I can't do anything'.

Had he gotten aggressive he could have possibly better nipped it while also aggressively eviscerating congress for their incompetence, particularly Republican senators possibly being a much better campaign message than what he had.

That's a much easier political narrative to push than 'there's nothing I can do and I might upset some libs if my mandates are too aggressive'.

Short story long, I just hope the Dems move more in a corporate competitive mindset than holding on to any belief in long standing political traditions.

Don't be afraid to say 'f#$k traditional norms and ettique. Just get the shit we want done even if it might need creative political/corporate strategies'.

This pardon feels like it might be a move into that mindset. Now we'll see if the new administration will let it stand or figure out a way to override presidential pardons (which wouldn't surprise me one bit).

It's a long, 20 minute watch but he gets into the core around the 12 min point. He does make fun and rip on Dems til then, particularly does a really good impression of Schumer but again the core message starts around the 13 minute mark if you're bored.

Another path, would have been Obama nominating a jurist that would've been more palatable to Senate Republicans. Find someone from the Federalist society who is a wolf in sheep's clothing like John Roberts. Have to work with the Senate reality in front of you.
 
Another path, would have been Obama nominating a jurist that would've been more palatable to Senate Republicans. Find someone from the Federalist society who is a wolf in sheep's clothing like John Roberts. Have to work with the Senate reality in front of you.
No, McConnell would have blocked anyone Obama nominated.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BradStevens
So Hunter's tax case was for years 2016-2019 and his gun case was from 2018. Yet the pardon goes back to 2014...for anything Hunter may have potentially done. Don't be surprised if Hunter isn't the only one getting this blanket pardon.
 
  • Like
Reactions: DANC
So Hunter's tax case was for years 2016-2019 and his gun case was from 2018. Yet the pardon goes back to 2014...for anything Hunter may have potentially done. Don't be surprised if Hunter isn't the only one getting this blanket pardon.
Seems conceivable that this is a preemptive pardon for Joe for crimes which haven’t yet come to light.
 
  • Like
Reactions: DANC
I'm not saying I agree with the pardon, nor am I saying that Joe Biden didn't go back on what he said about pardoning his son.

That said, short of a loved one being accused/convicted of a truly heinous crime, I can't imagine I wouldn't do the same thing in Biden's shoes.
So you're admitting you'd have lied.

Why should anyone believe anything you say, if that's true?
 
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT