I don't get the point. FBI and DOE issued theirs. I don't know who the other 4 are. And the CIA hasn't concluded yet.Well, that would be the Biden administration. Administrators don't release statements without approval.
I don't get the point. FBI and DOE issued theirs. I don't know who the other 4 are. And the CIA hasn't concluded yet.Well, that would be the Biden administration. Administrators don't release statements without approval.
Maybe you have never been an administrator.I don't get the point. FBI and DOE issued theirs. I don't know who the other 4 are. And the CIA hasn't concluded yet.
You know why it's called Spanish Flu? I'm sure you do, of course, but I ask anyway, just because I think the answer is interesting.
You know why it's called Spanish Flu? I'm sure you do, of course, but I ask anyway, just because I think the answer is interesting.
No, it's because Spain wasn't in the war, and wasn't censoring news about the illness.Kiss my ass. It is because the WW1 ships transports sent troops home from Spanish ports. What does that have to do with the narrative. That is just your leftist ass trying to justify your past positions.
If we named it where it originated, it would have been called "Kansas Flu."We named viruses after where they originated for a long while, no?
We stopped that for what reason?
If we named it where it originated, it would have been called "Kansas Flu."
The first case of Spanish Flu was in Kansas. It spread throughout several of the nations fighting the war. France was hit especially hard. But everyone kept it quiet because they were at war and didn't want the other side to know the flu was kicking their ass. Spain wasn't in the war, and was open about the epidemic, making it appear to most of the world that Spain was the epicenter.Wtf are you talking about?
Correct.The first case of Spanish Flu was in Kansas. It spread throughout several of the nations fighting the war. France was hit especially hard. But everyone kept it quiet because they were at war and didn't want the other side to know the flu was kicking their ass. Spain wasn't in the war, and was open about the epidemic, making it appear to most of the world that Spain was the epicenter.
The first case of Spanish Flu was in Kansas. It spread throughout several of the nations fighting the war. France was hit especially hard. But everyone kept it quiet because they were at war and didn't want the other side to know the flu was kicking their ass. Spain wasn't in the war, and was open about the epidemic, making it appear to most of the world that Spain was the epicenter.
What about them?Ok. I'm fully aware of that story. It was bullshit.
What about modern times? West Nile, Zika, etc...
Maybe you have never been an administrator.
What about them?
What does it mean that Spain wasn't in the war? Who censored the fact of the worldwide epidemic of 1918, 1919 and 1920? Wilson never mentioning the epidemic in any official statements isn't some conspiracy. As to I am wrong about you positions concerning Covid. I say our peers on this board and the entire written words stand in judgment. That is why I dislike deleting threads.No, it's because Spain wasn't in the war, and wasn't censoring news about the illness.
I'm not bringing this up to justify anything, and whatever you think my past positions are, you are probably wrong.
I understand but where is the leadership? You can't go around letting Department heads tell conflicting stories.I don't get the point. 6 agencies have spoke and they disagree. I am gathering they have 6 different administrators. And none of the 6 are me.
I feel like you and Rock think I was playing some sort of game with my question. I wasn't. I just think it's interesting how the war situation affected how we thought of the Spanish flu.Don't fk around with me. They were named from their origin.
We know this was the Wuhan virus. It just is. Call things as they are.
And now seems more and more likely it was a lab leak situation. From a country that that is our largest geopolitical enemy. And the left in this country wants to kiss their ass and say, no big deal. God fkn forbid we name it after where it came from, and the trillions of dollars of economic damage it did.
better just not talk about it. Let's just move on
I can't figure if we're just afraid of offending someone or actually afraid of the Chinese.
All the nations had the flu but refused to allow press coverage of it for fear the enemy would use it to their advantage. Spain had it, Spain was not in WW1 so they put it in their papers which were picked up around the world. The Spanish king died from it. So everyone called it the Spanish Flu. But it really happened everywhere and began in KS.What does it mean that Spain wasn't in the war? Who censored the fact of the worldwide epidemic of 1918, 1919 and 1920? Wilson never mentioning the epidemic in any official statements isn't some conspiracy. As to I am wrong about you positions concerning Covid. I say our peers on this board and the entire written words stand in judgment. That is why I dislike deleting threads.
And I like being judged by my actual words, and not by what others might assume would be my words, just because they identify me as a member of a particular political group.What does it mean that Spain wasn't in the war? Who censored the fact of the worldwide epidemic of 1918, 1919 and 1920? Wilson never mentioning the epidemic in any official statements isn't some conspiracy. As to I am wrong about you positions concerning Covid. I say our peers on this board and the entire written words stand in judgment. That is why I dislike deleting threads.
Actually, he just got really, really sick. But he recovered.The Spanish king died from it.
I understand but where is the leadership? You can't go around letting Department heads tell conflicting stories.
Different parts of government disagreeing with each other should be seen as a sign of a healthy democracy. You don't see a lot of intragovernmental disagreement in China or Russia.I want them telling what they believe is right. They disagree. Nothing wrong with that. If more had disagreed about entering Vietnam we would have been better off.
I feel like you and Rock think I was playing some sort of game with my question. I wasn't. I just think it's interesting how the war situation affected how we thought of the Spanish flu.
I really don't care if you call SARS-Cov2 (or WTF it's technical name is) "Wuhan virus." I call it "Covid" or "Coronavirus" or "Rona" because that's what everyone else calls it, and I believe in the importance of being clear, so I choose to use vocabulary that I can trust others will understand.
I mean, that was probably going to happen, anyway. One day, you don't have to sit down just to put on the socks. The next day you do. One day, you drink for fun. The next day, you drink to maintain sanity. None of this shit is because of the times we live in.the rest of our lives is gonna look a lot shittier than the years we grew up in
We complain, at least I do, at how secretive and monolithic the Chinese government is. I don't want that.Different parts of government disagreeing with each other should be seen as a sign of a healthy democracy. You don't see a lot of intragovernmental disagreement in China or Russia.
I never knew my uncle Knox. He died when he was 6 in 1919.All the nations had the flu but refused to allow press coverage of it for fear the enemy would use it to their advantage. Spain had it, Spain was not in WW1 so they put it in their papers which were picked up around the world. The Spanish king died from it. So everyone called it the Spanish Flu. But it really happened everywhere and began in KS.
Disagreeing three years in is easy.I want them telling what they believe is right. They disagree. Nothing wrong with that. If more had disagreed about entering Vietnam we would have been better off.
Hickory found a big word that starts with the letter X ,apparently he really likes it and has to use it in every message.Probably because Trump has a long history of xenophobic comments/actions/slurs.
Exactly the type of guy stoll thinks needs to be defended it seems
Aside from getting up more in the night to piss and aches and pains more evident I am often glad I have already lived as much of life as I did pre 2020, mid 50's so not that old.What it's called at this point is irrelevant. It was a test warning for everyone .
Bottom line, buckle up, as the rest of our lives is gonna look a lot shittier than the years we grew up in. Everything I've seen points to a new arms race, and not always with conventional weapons
It’s more about people on the left like goat engaging in semantics and arguments because the claims (many correct) were and are coming from the right. No one should be offended that it’s called the China virus or the Wuhan virus…Don't fk around with me. They were named from their origin.
We know this was the Wuhan virus. It just is. Call things as they are.
And now seems more and more likely it was a lab leak situation. From a country that that is our largest geopolitical enemy. And the left in this country wants to kiss their ass and say, no big deal. God fkn forbid we name it after where it came from, and the trillions of dollars of economic damage it did.
better just not talk about it. Let's just move on
I can't figure if we're just afraid of offending someone or actually afraid of the Chinese.
Yeah, seemed to be a pretty big deal then, didn't it.It’s all tiring. It’s not that hard to remember the outcry from your side when Trump “restricted” travel.
WTF does the CIA know about it? Other than lying and covering their ass since they know it came from there.I don't get the point. FBI and DOE issued theirs. I don't know who the other 4 are. And the CIA hasn't concluded yet.
Well damn! Look who got religion!We named viruses after where they originated for a long while, no?
We stopped that for what reason?
The botton line is that the "right" has been more or less correct about everything from the start. That pisses off a lot of those on left. Those that think government can solve problems, which outside of limited circumstances of things govt is good at (defense, social security) is a joke.
That's interesting. Link?No, it's because Spain wasn't in the war, and wasn't censoring news about the illness.
I'm not bringing this up to justify anything, and whatever you think my past positions are, you are probably wrong.
You can't be serious. Can you imagine that many different opinions coming out of the Trump administration?Different parts of government disagreeing with each other should be seen as a sign of a healthy democracy. You don't see a lot of intragovernmental disagreement in China or Russia.
I just wonder how much time and money has been spent investigating this. Seriously how does any sane person capable of a 6th grade education not able to see this was what happened from the start? I don't know exactly how close this lab was to the open air market but c'mon man it was pretty close and yet people found it easier to believe it came from a bat? Was it intentional? That is a harder one to ever prove but a 6th grade science field trip could've proved it came from the lab.WTF does the CIA know about it? Other than lying and covering their ass since they know it came from there.
I wouldn't trust the CIA to tell the truth on anything.
I'm thinking of the scientists and people in science admin/politics who did so.
I'm not as sure as you that there weren't people on this site aping these claims. I don't feel like searching through those old posts, though.
Might not have been Kansas. Take a guess where this Stanford page on the 1918 Influenza Pandemic says it started.If we named it where it originated, it would have been called "Kansas Flu."
Well he helped bring about the culture, so he can suck it.Jon Stewart recalls outrage after he backed COVID-19 lab leak theory: ‘F–k you, I’m done’
Stewart said he was stunned by the “anger” he faced for supporting the lab leak theory.nypost.com
Eh, what does Stanford know? It was founded by a racist IU professor.Might not have been Kansas. Take a guess where this Stanford page on the 1918 Influenza Pandemic says it started.