Lottery Winners

[Aloha Hoosier]

We've had some very big lottery winners lately and I've always wondered how people handle their newfound wealth. I think it would make for a great reality TV show, and I hate reality TV generally, to follow non-secret winners and see how they spend it and how they're doing maybe five years later. If they have such a show, I missed it. However, his an article about one winner and I don't think he did so well with his winnings, though he probably had a blast for a while:

Non-cents! Scottish lottery winner blew through record-breaking $50M before death

Colin Weir, a former cameraman married to a nurse, bought a 55 percent share in Glasgow’s Partick Thistle Football Club before he died of sepsis at age 72 in 2019, the outlet reported.

nypost.com

 

[dbmhoosier]

I'm guessing it normally doesn't end well. Everyone I've ever known who plays the lotto is dirt poor. They've probably never had to manage money before.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

I'm guessing it normally doesn't end well. Everyone I've ever known who plays the lotto is dirt poor. They've probably never had to manage money before.

How much do those dirt poor spend? $3-$4 ? $300-$400 a week? I think there is a point, if in this country, $2-$4 a week isn't what would cause you to die in starvation. It MAY (read it as not) fix everything (well not really).

 

[dbmhoosier]

How much do those dirt poor spend? $3-$4 ? $300-$400 a week? I think there is a point, if in this country, $2-$4 a week isn't what would cause you to die in starvation. It MAY (read it as not) fix everything (well not really).

It's not really how much they spend it is how much they have. Talking people that have probably never had more than a few grand to their name at any time.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

It's not really how much they spend it is how much they have. Talking people that have probably never had more than a few grand to their name at any time.

I get it, but you said that everyone that you've know that plays, is dirt poor. Maybe it's the why do dirt poor play? Even if they are dirt poor, just over paying their bills or just under paying their bills, and they play $3-$5 a week, that isn't going to get them over some lline is it? . But in the astronomical chance that they hit, it would change things.
I'd also comment that someone living at dirty poor just slightly - or + of paying their bills, have managed money much better than those of make well past what we spend. (with 90% of my life being in the "make under what I had to spend").
Outside of anything financial, I think lotto is great. It affords people of all stripes, to spend $1 per week to set and talk and have hopes. In todays world, that is the most efficient $1 ever spent, for the greater good. A few minutes of hope can drive you to keep pushing.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

I get it, but you said that everyone that you've know that plays, is dirt poor. Maybe it's the why do dirt poor play? Even if they are dirt poor, just over paying their bills or just under paying their bills, and they play $3-$5 a week, that isn't going to get them over some lline is it? . But in the astronomical chance that they hit, it would change things.
I'd also comment that someone living at dirty poor just slightly - or + of paying their bills, have managed money much better than those of make well past what we spend. (with 90% of my life being in the "make under what I had to spend").
Outside of anything financial, I think lotto is great. It affords people of all stripes, to spend $1 per week to set and talk and have hopes. In todays world, that is the most efficient $1 ever spent, for the greater good. A few minutes of hope can drive you to keep pushing.

It’s mostly a tax on the poor. It’s a voluntary tax, so I’m OK with it, but nearly all of the poor people that play the lotto on a regular basis are poorer by whatever amount they wager.

 

[UncleMark]

We've had some very big lottery winners lately and I've always wondered how people handle their newfound wealth. I think it would make for a great reality TV show, and I hate reality TV generally, to follow non-secret winners and see how they spend it and how they're doing maybe five years later. If they have such a show, I missed it. However, his an article about one winner and I don't think he did so well with his winnings, though he probably had a blast for a while:

Non-cents! Scottish lottery winner blew through record-breaking $50M before death

Colin Weir, a former cameraman married to a nurse, bought a 55 percent share in Glasgow’s Partick Thistle Football Club before he died of sepsis at age 72 in 2019, the outlet reported.

nypost.com

Everything is starting to remind me of McMurtry.

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But the lottery curse reared its head in 2018, when he divorced his wife, Chris, after nearly four decades of marriage — and she took much of his fortune, according to The Independent.​

 

[mcmurtry66]

Everything is starting to remind me of McMurtry.

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But the lottery curse reared its head in 2018, when he divorced his wife, Chris, after nearly four decades of marriage — and she took much of his fortune, according to The Independent.​

I play the lottery. Scratch offs. Mega. All of it. I do my shopping on Fridays and buy a big pile of scratch offs at the grocery store that my daughter and I blow through. Never win. And I’m all for the poor playing too. What else do they have to hope for. And when I win I’ll piss it away inside of five years - regardless of the amount. However I’ll have a party at the grocery store first and hook up all the workers.

Today we were walking back from lunch and this guy was shouting from his big Range Rover “Hey loser!!! Hey loser!!!” My daughter goes hey dad that’s for you. I look over and it’s a lawyer I used to have cases with and go out to happy hour once a month or so. Same age. I go “where the F of you been.” “Stroke! I had a stroke.” Super put together dude. Gym six am every day. Non smoker. Etc.

I’m going to be a little more positive and be grateful for my health. No more wasting time on pity parties

And one day I’m going to win the lottery

 

[NPT]

It’s mostly a tax on the poor. It’s a voluntary tax, so I’m OK with it, but nearly all of the poor people that play the lotto on a regular basis are poorer by whatever amount they wager.

Is it a really a tax on the poor? I agree that they seem to be the ones that play it more but in the end I wonder if it's a tax on us because we now have to support them.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

Everything is starting to remind me of McMurtry.

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But the lottery curse reared its head in 2018, when he divorced his wife, Chris, after nearly four decades of marriage — and she took much of his fortune, according to The Independent.​

He stayed with one for 40 yrs, AND won the lottery. Damn, that is winning in 2 different universes of astronomical odds.
And apparently she still ruined his ass.
Marriage has made me a Misanthrope, and someone who googles the word Misanthrope now.
huh, she always said I could learn a thing or two. fvuk, she still wins. arggggh

 

[NPT]

I blow through. Never win

Just send it to me .... I can get rid of it for you.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

Is it a really a tax on the poor? I agree that they seem to be the ones that play it more but in the end I wonder if it's a tax on us because we now have to support them.

Tax on the poor is political speak for, "the lottery hasn't contributed enough to my supper dupper ultra hidden swiddish bank account Pak for the betterment of ME".

NOTICE **** ATTENTION **** there is not one GD Democratic reference above. Just because Trump was the perfect leader at the time, doesn't mean some one else can't step the F up!. But they won't, we know.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

I know 2 lottery winners. The owner of Kleindorfer hardware daughter won. Lost track of her. The other guy won it twice. He was a loose cannon. SOB. Both Hoosier lotto.

 

[mcmurtry66]

I know 2 lottery winners. The owner of Kleindorfer hardware daughter won. Lost track of her. The other guy won it twice. He was a loose cannon. SOB. Both Hoosier lotto.

Wow! How much?

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

I know 2 lottery winners. The owner of Kleindorfer hardware daughter won. Lost track of her. The other guy won it twice. He was a loose cannon. SOB. Both Hoosier lotto.

I didn't know about the Kliendorfer's . The odds of a hardware store in B'town having a rubber gasket for a 1937 hudson radiator and a lotto winner.. Eff'ers prove yet again, they have everything. In Bloomington for all godforsaken places. (other than Basketball of course).

 

[Victorbmyboy]

Wow! How much?

I believe kleindorfer was the first winner. It was a million I believe. The other guy won like 3-4 million total. I worked with his son.

 

[NPT]

I believe kleindorfer was the first winner. It was a million I believe. The other guy won like 3-4 million total. I worked with his son.

I think there are people that are just lucky. I was reading a month or two ago about a guy that had won 2 million dollars and then 2 years later won another 2 million dollars.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

I didn't know about the Kliendorfer's . The odds of a hardware store in B'town having a rubber gasket for a 1937 hudson radiator and a lotto winner.. Eff'ers prove yet again, they have everything. In Bloomington for all godforsaken places. (other than Basketball of course).

I grew up next to the Kleindorfers in Unionville. Very nice people. Used go to that place almost every Saturday with my dad. They had everything. We would stop at 1st national bank and eat at Bruce’s cafe. Would stop at Southern sporting goods too. My dad was friends with Rick Belcher. I think he managed it or something. Just remember the tall bar in there. They had all the IU player shoes. Speaking of memories…doesn’t the dinner scene in Hoosiers remind you of Bruce’s?

 

[dbmhoosier]

I'm just saying it's a scam. Almost everyone who plays gambles way more than they win back. The lotto companies aren't stupid.

 

[mcmurtry66]

I'm just saying it's a scam. Almost everyone who plays gambles way more than they win back. The lotto companies aren't stupid.

For sure. But still. Your post made me think of steve Martin working the carnival in the jerk when he has his epiphany

 

[Victorbmyboy]

I'm just saying it's a scam. Almost everyone who plays gambles way more than they win back. The lotto companies aren't stupid.

Well yeah… just like the bus loads of seniors going to the casinos. The thrill is the chance. I’m not a big gambler. Way to conservative but I do buy 20 bucks a week worth. I’m like the psychiatrist in Good Will Hunting. An eternal optimist.

 

[UncleMark]

I'm just saying it's a scam. Almost everyone who plays gambles way more than they win back. The lotto companies aren't stupid.

No shit? Really?? You've known this all along???

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

I'm just saying it's a scam. Almost everyone who plays gambles way more than they win back. The lotto companies aren't stupid.

Not figthin ya brother just discussing. It's still better than meth. Freedom wins over on this one for me.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

Not figthin ya brother just discussing. It's still better than meth. Freedom wins over on this one for me.

Whoooooaaaa…have you tried meth? 😜

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

I grew up next to the Kleindorfers in Unionville. Very nice people. Used go to that place almost every Saturday with my dad. They had everything. We would stop at 1st national bank and eat at Bruce’s cafe. Would stop at Southern sporting goods too. My dad was friends with Rick Belcher. I think he managed it or something. Just remember the tall bar in there. They had all the IU player shoes. Speaking of memories…doesn’t the dinner scene in Hoosiers remind you of Bruce’s?

OMG you mention so many memories from my child hood. The Kleindorfers are all great people. Went to vocational school with a couple of them (grand kids) and their store was the first place that I could by Dip with no questions!
Southern sporting goods, owned by my great uncle (Bruce) but Maybe he sold it to Bill Belcher (he's on the recorded dissolution records with the state) who then dissolved it? the family history is a little sketchy at that point. I still (I'm 54) remember being embarrassed to buy my first Baseball "cup" there when I was 10yo (but I was going big time! ) I didn't by the way.

I don't know for a fact that I was ever in Bruces, BUT there are some images in my mind from years past that think that I was at a very young age. Hang on.. Who TF are you again? I only ask becuase some of those old times leave flashes in my mind, but I don't recall the current wife's name.
Anyway, Your post takes me back, Kleindorfers, Southern sporting goods, Stewarts gun shop, Victor Settles jewelers (I use to have drinks with Steve Settles at Kenny's in Elletsville, such a GREAT/ Amazing MAN!) .
Damn, now I am reliving 45 yrs ago. Keyboard is getting soggy. Better check out before it all goes ^@^%&*(()($@%^&$%#^ oops.

 

[dbmhoosier]

It should be legal obviously.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

OMG you mention so many memories from my child hood. The Kleindorfers are all great people. Went to vocational school with a couple of them (grand kids) and their store was the first place that I could by Dip with no questions!
Southern sporting goods, owned by my great uncle (Bruce) but Maybe he sold it to Bill Belcher (he's on the recorded dissolution records with the state) who then dissolved it? the family history is a little sketchy at that point. I still (I'm 54) remember being embarrassed to buy my first Baseball "cup" there when I was 10yo (but I was going big time! ) I didn't by the way.

I don't know for a fact that I was ever in Bruces, BUT there are some images in my mind from years past that think that I was at a very young age. Hang on.. Who TF are you again? I only ask becuase some of those old times leave flashes in my mind, but I don't recall the current wife's name.
Anyway, Your post takes me back, Kleindorfers, Southern sporting goods, Stewarts gun shop, Victor Settles jewelers (I use to have drinks with Steve Settles at Kenny's in Elletsville, such a GREAT/ Amazing MAN!) .
Damn, now I am reliving 45 yrs ago. Keyboard is getting soggy. Better check out before it all goes ^@^%&*(()($@%^&$%#^ oops.

My cousins(second) went to Edgewood. Weren’t you a Edgewood grad? The Hancock boys. Brad Gooldy is my moms cousin. My great grandparents lived on Mcneely. I moved to Newburgh 8 years ago and don’t get back up enough.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

My cousins(second) went to Edgewood. Weren’t you a Edgewood grad? The Hancock boys. Brad Gooldy is my moms cousin. My great grandparents lived on Mcneely. I moved to Newburgh 8 years ago and don’t get back up enough.

Yep, Edgewood, 86'. Don't recall the Hancock name (doesn't mean I shouldn't). Brad.. OH yea, PLAYA...
Back then I knew everyone (I think) on Mcneely, I grew up on Union Valley. The Dutton's and Dillman's on the east end to the Kramers on the west end. There were the Chaudions and Williams and Harrisons (builders et al).
MY.... Golden ... Years! OH Did I mention the Dean's that lived on Union Valley? ........ Hearing Tony "Tree" Kale on the radio validates me..

 

[Victorbmyboy]

Yep, Edgewood, 86'. Don't recall the Hancock name (doesn't mean I shouldn't). Brad.. OH yea, PLAYA...
Back then I knew everyone (I think) on Mcneely, I grew up on Union Valley. The Dutton's and Dillman's on the east end to the Kramers on the west end. There were the Chaudions and Williams and Harrisons (builders et al).
MY.... Golden ... Years! OH Did I mention the Dean's that lived on Union Valley? ........ Hearing Tony "Tree" Kale on the radio validates me..

Tori played on those really good late 80s Edgewood teams. Aaron played on those sectional champ early 90s. I think Aaron held the 3 point record(may still). Their dad was Butch. I could talk for days about my family.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

Tori played on those really good late 80s Edgewood teams. Aaron played on those sectional champ early 90s. I think Aaron held the 3 point record(may still). Their dad was Butch. I could talk for days about my family.

I'm pretty sure that you are "coming in" right on the edge of me "going out". I recaaaaall those names, but they were more in my Brothers error of (amazing edgewood union valley/ McNeely area people) very memorable folks that made a foot print on Edgewood soil.

Honestly, I haven't been in Edgewood Gym for a game in 35 yrs. I was last night though (strange timing) one of my 4 yr old (GD) cheer leader to be was owning the half time show (lol Not really OWNING).
Anyway, I missed most of the game, looking at past pic's of the exact people you are talking about, hanging on the hallway wall, remembering.
It seems that they have tried to conserve space now. When I went to school, the pictures of teams always started with the 1960 ish teams. Now it seems the pic's start at 1985... Not sure how I feel about that.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

I'm pretty sure that you are "coming in" right on the edge of me "going out". I recaaaaall those names, but they were more in my Brothers error of (amazing edgewood union valley/ McNeely area people) very memorable folks that made a foot print on Edgewood soil.

Honestly, I haven't been in Edgewood Gym for a game in 35 yrs. I was last night though (strange timing) one of my 4 yr old (GD) cheer leader to be was owning the half time show (lol Not really OWNING).
Anyway, I missed most of the game, looking at past pic's of the exact people you are talking about, hanging on the hallway wall, remembering.
It seems that they have tried to conserve space now. When I went to school, the pictures of teams always started with the 1960 ish teams. Now it seems the pic's start at 1985... Not sure how I feel about that.

Last game I went to was the Zeller game. Cody was a freshman. It was packed. Took my daughter and my dad. My daughters first high school game. She was 3-4 months old. Saw all the BNL games(Damon). They were always competitive and loud.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

Yep, Edgewood, 86'. Don't recall the Hancock name (doesn't mean I shouldn't). Brad.. OH yea, PLAYA...
Back then I knew everyone (I think) on Mcneely, I grew up on Union Valley. The Dutton's and Dillman's on the east end to the Kramers on the west end. There were the Chaudions and Williams and Harrisons (builders et al).
MY.... Golden ... Years! OH Did I mention the Dean's that lived on Union Valley? ........ Hearing Tony "Tree" Kale on the radio validates me..

You were within a year of a buddy of mine, though I haven't seen him much lately. He was my Civil War battlefield travel buddy for several years, and we played ball at HPER every day 20 years ago. Did you know a Hawkins.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

I get it, but you said that everyone that you've know that plays, is dirt poor. Maybe it's the why do dirt poor play? Even if they are dirt poor, just over paying their bills or just under paying their bills, and they play $3-$5 a week, that isn't going to get them over some lline is it? . But in the astronomical chance that they hit, it would change things.
I'd also comment that someone living at dirty poor just slightly - or + of paying their bills, have managed money much better than those of make well past what we spend. (with 90% of my life being in the "make under what I had to spend").
Outside of anything financial, I think lotto is great. It affords people of all stripes, to spend $1 per week to set and talk and have hopes. In todays world, that is the most efficient $1 ever spent, for the greater good. A few minutes of hope can drive you to keep pushing.

It’s mostly a tax on the poor. It’s a voluntary tax, so I’m OK with it, but nearly all of the poor people that play the lotto on a regular basis are poorer by whatever amount they wager.

I agree with both of you. It operates as a tax on the poor, but on the other hand, when you buy a ticket, you're getting more than just your astronomically tiny odds of winning big money. Really, you're purchasing a reason to sit and fantasize about what you'd do with the money, which is a very fun mental exercise.

I only play a couple of times a year, usually on a lark when the jackpot is big, but for $10, I spend the evening planning out the excellent neighborhood pub I'm going to open. By now, I have that bar figured out down to every last inch, so if I ever do end up with a ton of money, I'll be able to hit the ground running.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

I agree with both of you. It operates as a tax on the poor, but on the other hand, when you buy a ticket, you're getting more than just your astronomically tiny odds of winning big money. Really, you're purchasing a reason to sit and fantasize about what you'd do with the money, which is a very fun mental exercise.

I only play a couple of times a year, usually on a lark when the jackpot is big, but for $10, I spend the evening planning out the excellent neighborhood pub I'm going to open. By now, I have that bar figured out down to every last inch, so if I ever do end up with a ton of money, I'll be able to hit the ground running.

That dreaming makes, played responsibly, the lottery worth it. One gets entertainment, not just the exceedingly low return on a dollar.

Few things I do for entertainment have a high return on my investment of time and money. Actually, none do.

 

[mcmurtry66]

I agree with both of you. It operates as a tax on the poor, but on the other hand, when you buy a ticket, you're getting more than just your astronomically tiny odds of winning big money. Really, you're purchasing a reason to sit and fantasize about what you'd do with the money, which is a very fun mental exercise.

I only play a couple of times a year, usually on a lark when the jackpot is big, but for $10, I spend the evening planning out the excellent neighborhood pub I'm going to open. By now, I have that bar figured out down to every last inch, so if I ever do end up with a ton of money, I'll be able to hit the ground running.

You’ll get that pub one day. You won’t need the lottery.

 

[anon_6hv78pr714xta]

For sure. But still. Your post made me think of steve Martin working the carnival in the jerk when he has his epiphany

You mean when he finds his special purpose? This might be you dating those cougars soon:

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

You’ll get that pub one day. You won’t need the lottery.

Bars are expensive. I have enough money saved up to get a food truck. I'm probably about half-way to having enough to open a deli. But I doubt I even have 10% of what I'd need to do a pub.

 

[anon_6hv78pr714xta]

Bars are expensive. I have enough money saved up to get a food truck. I'm probably about half-way to having enough to open a deli. But I doubt I even have 10% of what I'd need to do a pub.

Can't wait for this pub. The Happy Goat?

 

[Crayfish57]

That dreaming makes, played responsibly, the lottery worth it. One gets entertainment, not just the exceedingly low return on a dollar.

Few things I do for entertainment have a high return on my investment of time and money. Actually, none do.

Buying a cpl is one thing I agree although never have. I remember watching people and pull tabs in bars a few times and spend 40 bucks , rip through them and get excited winning $5 or $10 . Didnt seem like entertainment to me but to each their own.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Can't wait for this pub. The Happy Goat?

Great name