I live in FL about 5 months a year (back and forth). I am an independent moderate.
Politicizing education is a lose/lose for all of us.
yeah and i agree with goat that i do believe his primary motivation is political. and that's a shame because the school hasn't achieved its stated goals. and business decisions that are likely needed are cast in suspicion. that lesson can be extrapolated to policy and why at some point desantis does need to tone down the culture stuff
I don't think it has. But even if it were, that doesn't make it right or a winning proposition for education.
Desantis just won a landslide election doing exactly the things you want him to tone down. Why would he stop doing them? It doesn’t make any sense at all for him to change course. He should continue doing what led to his easy reelection. You can’t set policies if you can’t win elections. George Bush smaller government and lower taxes types aren’t winning an election in 2024.
Do you think the Florida electorate mirrors the national one? I don't know.
I think he makes a fair point. It’s historically been a bellwether state I believe. It’s now the third largest. Transient. Diverse. And Desantis did win in an absolute landslide along with the state going red as blood. He might be right
But that’s not comparable to fla. It’s historically left. Fla has been even
I’ve worked in education the past 2 decades and disagree. Sorry, it’s just painfully obvious if you work in the environment and are right of center.
Given the timing, I don't think what you envision could happen. The Dems can't wait to see if Trump wins the Repub nomination before selecting who their nominee will be. It'll be too late. If Biden enters the race, no one else will on the Dem side.
In what way are you referring to it being politicized? In what is taught? Or in how the leaders are selected? Something else?
Florida isn't even anymore. A big change occurred, midwest Republicans have made places like The Villages huge GOP colonies. Note DeSantis isn't the only Republican winning Florida.
Yes or at least close enough. Obviously, variables change, but I wouldn’t change much if I was Desantis.
I disagree. This was the mantra of Republicans for a long time and the end result has been losing elections. A few recent Democrat examples that certainly helped them in the midterms. Biden’s student forgiveness executive order. It’s disgusting thing to do to people, but it got him some votes. Or the leaking of Roe vs Wade? Or the release of our oil reserves? To use a basketball analogy, if the other team is allowed to travel, I want my team to travel and hopefully kick their a#%🤷
And loads of New Yorkers have moved to south Florida. And broward palm and Dade Hispanics are moving right
Both. I think also as it has shifted to the left more and more, self selection kicks in, as well. More people like myself choose other fields. I won’t allow my sons to get into education.
Here's a comparative breakdown.
Cuban Hispanics have always been further right.
Well, that is why the country is swirling the drain, in my opinion. Each side is worried only about their side winning, and no one is worried about the good of the country. So in that sense, the basketball analogy doesn't hold up, I don't think.
There are a lot of conservative New Yorkers. My guess is, conservative NYers go to Florida to retire.
right but cubans are only about 1/4 of the latinos in fla. desantis pulled 58 percent of the latino vote. in 2018 only 44%
historically but these people coming down post pandemic are workers not retirees. fla is exploding with new companies and miami is exploding with tech and finance
Arizona hasn’t moved left. The idiots running the state’s Republican Party have nominated unelectable candidates. Kari Lake is certifiable nuts and she barely lost the election for governor. Now she’s preparing for a senate race where she is favored to win the Republican nomination.
Lol.. those numbers show exactly what I was getting at. DeSantis should continue to do what he was doing. Also, he accomplished that in what was considered a disappointing election for Republicans nationally, which had Trump and Roe headwinds working against them.
The lost of trust comes from the underpinnings of too much debt and spending in my opinion. As governments grow in size there are going to be more fighting for access to the capital.
Okay. Prior to Desantis’ landslide the three prior elections were a point or less.
The point is that Florida has historically been closely divided and considered a swing state. Desantis blew it out of the water
