James Mattis: Trump a threat to the Constitution

[DrHoops]

They must have loved Obama then. Job creation was faster as well as economic growth under Obama.

Economy:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2020/02/01/trumps-economic-growth-is-slower-than-obamas-last-3-years/amp/

Jobs:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2020/02/07/obamas-last-three-years-of-job-growth-all-beat-trumps-best-year/amp/

That’s not convenient for people who believe serial liar, Donald Trump, who has told them otherwise, 16 lying times per day.

This is the kind of stuff that makes Trumpers like my parents want to hang on. You know damn well the economy was humming and UE was at record lows.

 

[Cream&Crimson]

How was passing the ACA without a single GOP vote, witbout even reading it mind you, not pwning the Pubs? The D Party has been whining since W's second term and they only paused during PBO's terms to catch their breath.

I have remorse about voting for Trump, because of how fractured we are. The Trump presidency has mauled the system. Like with a bear attack, it's not the fault of the bear, but the bear has to get put down. Likewise, Trump needs to go.

I may leave the top line blank, but I'll be voting GOP down ballot, no doubt about that.

It's true that it's not the Bear's fault in his case that he got elected (that's on you Pubs), but he is by NO means innocent in how fractured we are. The two are not close to analogous.

 

[DrHoops]

You say the Dems are whining. I say the Dems are trying to find a solution to our healthcare debacle with ZERO help from Republicans. Im not sure how many times this needs to be said before it sinks in:

Obamacare was a REPUBLICAN idea created by the Heritage Foundation. Of course, once Obama embraced it, suddenly the Republicans called it socialism.

How was passing the ACA without a single GOP vote, witbout even reading it mind you, not pwning the Pubs? The D Party has been whining since W's second term and they only paused during PBO's terms to catch their breath.

I have remorse about voting for Trump, because of how fractured we are. The Trump presidency has mauled the system. Like with a bear attack, it's not the fault of the bear, but the bear has to get put down. Likewise, Trump needs to go.

I may leave the top line blank, but I'll be voting GOP down ballot, no doubt about that.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Obamacare was a REPUBLICAN idea created by the Heritage Foundation. Of course, once Obama embraced it, suddenly the Republicans called it socialism.

This reminds me of a theory I heard back in the days of Tony Bennett losing his reelection bid for State Superintendent to Glenda Ritz. The story was that Republicans were pushing Common Core standards as a nationwide educational platform. Then, Obama got on board, and it suddenly became toxic. Someone forgot to send Bennett the memo, and he lost just enough support to pull defeat from the jaws of victory.

 

[kurt cloverdales]

A vote for Trump gets you Trump and an ever-dwindling assortment of incompetent yes men, people whose roles are to placate the ego of the man in charge and lie constantly to try to fool you that all is precisely as it should be.

A vote for Biden gets you Biden, a cabinet, and even an entire administration that at least has the chance to be competent, if not capable, or even visionary.

So if Trump vs. Biden as individuals is in any way a close call for anyone (I think it is NOT), the aggregate effect is certainly not.

you think biden will keep Kushner, hard to replace someone who brought peace to the middle east and stopped a pandemic

 

[HillzHoozier]

They must have loved Obama then. Job creation was faster as well as economic growth under Obama.

Economy:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckj...rowth-is-slower-than-obamas-last-3-years/amp/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckj...rowth-is-slower-than-obamas-last-3-years/amp/

Jobs:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckj...-of-job-growth-all-beat-trumps-best-year/amp/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckj...-of-job-growth-all-beat-trumps-best-year/amp/

That’s not convenient for people who believe serial liar, Donald Trump, who has told them otherwise, 16 lying times per day.

Obama's rates were higher. This is reasonable given the 08 bottom was much lower than where Trump took over. Trump's economy increased workforce participation and he proved that there is still a desire to particiapate in manufacturing in this country. I can appreciate nationalism where the economy is concerned. I also appreciate encouraging people to provide for themselves and helping them to that end.

 

[twenty02]

This is the kind of stuff that makes Trumpers like my parents want to hang on. You know damn well the economy was humming and UE was at record lows.

I'm well aware of where it was.... however you claimed that Biden getting back to a sub 5% UER was far-fetched and you'd likely never see boom times again in your lifetime if he were elected (drama much??).

That defies common sense considering the actual UER trends of the last administration.

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

This is the kind of stuff that makes Trumpers like my parents want to hang on. You know damn well the economy was humming and UE was at record lows.

Did you not read his post?

 

[TommyCracker]

This is the kind of stuff that makes Trumpers like my parents want to hang on. You know damn well the economy was humming and UE was at record lows.

It was humming, but it's been humming for a while.

Trump basically came into the 4th quarter with a 50-10 lead and threw one TX to make the final score 57-10....and then tried to take credit for all of it.

What did he say 'I built the greatest economy in history' in less than three years nonetheless, while golfing a third of the time and tweeting a billion times.

Okay.

That's like saying 'under my leadership we've never had a higher year. I got it as high as 2020, the highest ever'.

The correct thing was to say the economy continued to grow under my leadership as many feared he'd mess up the momentum from the bull run out of the ashes of the crash of 2008.

 

[HillzHoozier]

I'm well aware of where it was.... however you claimed that Biden getting back to a sub 5% UER was far-fetched and you'd likely never see boom times again in your lifetime if he were elected (drama much??).

That defies common sense considering the actual UER trends of the last administration.

What is it now? 20%? What's the Lib plan to fix that? More stimulus checks? How about shovel-ready infrastructure jobs? Where is the plan?

 

[76-1]

We seem to be heading for something like this:

It may be time, very soon, to decide if you are on the side of the man (or woman) or on the side of the tank. Of course, I am referring to an American man (or woman) and an American tank that is trying to "dominate the battlespace"

Gotta tell you... If this s..t continues all summer long (and escalates continuously as I expect it to) they'll be a majority of the population who will seriously consider rooting for the tank...

This has evolved into a "happening" rather than a sincere protest.

It's gotten completely out of control (with the murders, arson, vandalism and theft...; and it will get worse if it continues unabated and without a forceful response rather than better (in my opinion)...)...

 

[UncleMark]

I may leave the top line blank, but I'll be voting GOP down ballot, no doubt about that.

His collaborators need to go as well. They enabled, even encouraged, everything that Trump has done. The whole fetid, rancid bunch needs to be eliminated or it will continue to poison the body politic.

 

[twenty02]

What is it now? 20%? What's the Lib plan to fix that? More stimulus checks? How about shovel-ready infrastructure jobs? Where is the plan?

That's what the discussion is about right now.... it's not clear how many will be hired back to their jobs.. but my guess is that we will be roughly at 10% UER or so at the end of the year.

Currently 5 of 6 people on UEI are making more on unemployment than they did in their jobs. That's not a rationale model and will change after July. But anyone's guess what that looks like right now. Will be decided by Congress anyway.

Right now there is neither a liberal nor conservative plan for anything.

 

[HillzHoozier]

His collaborators need to go as well. They enabled, even encouraged, everything that Trump has done. The whole fetid, rancid bunch needs to be eliminated or it will continue to poison the body politic.

I'd be happy to shake the entire etch-a-sketch. Both sides.

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

What is it now? 20%? What's the Lib plan to fix that? More stimulus checks? How about shovel-ready infrastructure jobs? Where is the plan?

Where is the money to pay for infrastructure jobs with these tax cuts?

 

[TommyCracker]

What is it now? 20%? What's the Lib plan to fix that? More stimulus checks? How about shovel-ready infrastructure jobs? Where is the plan?

I know capitalism is the supposed root of all evil in its winner/loser environment...but it's extremely resilient and self sufficient.

One day it won't, but I'm old enough to remember the fears of the economy not coming back but it always does, regardless of the president.

Doesn't mean we have a tremendous wealth gap which is the biggest threat that's hard to protest like Kaepernick taking a knee when things are humming along...but top line numbers, a capitalistic economy is hard to kill.

It came back after 1987, 1990, had its best run of all under Clinton, then survived three crashes in the 00's (the dot.com crash of 00, 9/11 crash of 01-02 and then the financial crash of 08).

The market has already recovered the coronavirus crash. It seems back to normal as the volitility is back to normal levels. The economy will follow once we get past the pandemic.

Pandemics tend to last 6 to 18 months.

Even the worst one of all, the black plague, was just 7 years in the 1300's.

 

[HillzHoozier]

Where is the money to pay for infrastructure jobs with these tax cuts?

Ask Nancy--she has the checkbook.

 

[HillzHoozier]

I know capitalism is the supposed root of all evil in its winner/loser environment...but it's extremely resilient and self sufficient.

One day it won't, but I'm old enough to remember the fears of the economy not coming back but it always does, regardless of the president.

Doesn't mean we have a tremendous wealth gap which is the biggest threat that's hard to protest like Kaepernick taking a knee when things are humming along...but top line numbers, a capitalistic economy is hard to kill.

It came back after 1987, 1990, had its best run of all under Clinton, then survived three crashes in the 00's (the dot.com crash of 00, 9/11 crash of 01-02 and then the financial crash of 08).

The market has already recovered the coronavirus crash. It seems back to normal as the volitility is back to normal levels. The economy will follow once we get past the pandemic.

Pandemics tend to last 6 to 18 months.

Even the worst one of all, the black plague, was just 7 years in the 1300's.

This kind of post is why you'll have at least one vote for POTUS thin November.

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

Ask Nancy--she has the checkbook.

So you invent straw bogeymen and then when called out on them you get flippant. I mean it’s cute, but........

 

[DrHoops]

Labor force has hardly budged under trump. At its highest point, participation was .4% higher than under Obama. It’s stayed the same or lower.

manufacturing has shrunk under Trump. And that was before the Virus.



As with everything else, Trump talks a big game, but never delivers. of course that’s what you expect from a compulsive and serial liar.

Obama's rates were higher. This is reasonable given the 08 bottom was much lower than where Trump took over. Trump's economy increased workforce participation and he proved that there is still a desire to particiapate in manufacturing in this country. I can appreciate nationalism where the economy is concerned. I also appreciate encouraging people to provide for themselves and helping them to that end.

 

[Spartans9312]

Where is the money to pay for infrastructure jobs with these tax cuts?

Permanent full expensing?

 

[TommyCracker]

This kind of post is why you'll have at least one vote for POTUS thin November.

Thank you for your vote!

Cracker 2020!

 

[HillzHoozier]

So you invent straw bogeymen and then when called out on them you get flippant. I mean it’s cute, but........

I post from work and I prefer to converse here as I would at an actual Water Cooler. Not trying to be flippant but I dont see a thread about any sort of democrat platform. I assume Biden will update the tax structure to please his party almost immediately. My aim wasnt to create a bogeyman. Just asking if anyone knew?

For the record, I don't think Trump has a plan either, other than to whack it with a stick.

 

[MonroeCity]

Permanent full expensing?

Full and immediate expensing was one of the best policies in the TCJA.
"Expensing is not just a business tax cut; expensing is fundamentally pro-worker. Expensing lowers the tax costs of new investments, which allows businesses to expand and upgrade their facilities and equipment, which leads to more jobs, better technology, and gains in productivity, all of which boosts wages."

 

[sglowrider]

Per the white house yesterday that's what 6'3" and 244 pounds looks like.

I must be anorexic.

 

[sglowrider]

you think biden will keep Kushner, hard to replace someone who brought peace to the middle east and stopped a pandemic

"If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

 

[ButHerEmails]

Labor force has hardly budged under trump. At its highest point, participation was .4% higher than under Obama. It’s stayed the same or lower.

manufacturing has shrunk under Trump. And that was before the Virus.



As with everything else, Trump talks a big game, but never delivers. of course that’s what you expect from a compulsive and serial liar.

It’s not just Trump who talks a big game. His dipshit voters/supporters regurgitate the same nonsense.

 

[Standard Issue]

It’s not just Trump who talks a big game. His dipshit voters/supporters regurgitate the same nonsense.

I'm trying to imagine the conversations at one of his rallies.
A thousand VSM's circle jerk.

 

[sglowrider]

 

[outside shooter]

https://www.newsandguts.com/video/randy-rainbow-the-bunker-boy/

 

[sglowrider]

https://www.newsandguts.com/video/randy-rainbow-the-bunker-boy/

He is nail on though.