"Donald Trump has a very clear vision that is hard to disagree with."

[UTFO]

"He says the following: first, he will not give a single penny for the Russo-Ukrainian war.

That's why the war will end. If Americans don't give money along with the Europeans, the war will end.

And if Americans don't give money then the Europeans won't be able to fund this war alone. And then the war will end. Donald Trump may not be president of the United States yet, but his party is stopping Democrats from spending money on the war. Trump says when he comes back, he won't give a penny to Ukraine. That's when the war will be over."

- Viktor Orbán - March 10, 2024 on M1 Television, 2 days after meeting w Trump at Mar-a-lago

 

[Univee2]

"He says the following: first, he will not give a single penny for the Russo-Ukrainian war.

That's why the war will end. If Americans don't give money along with the Europeans, the war will end.

And if Americans don't give money then the Europeans won't be able to fund this war alone. And then the war will end. Donald Trump may not be president of the United States yet, but his party is stopping Democrats from spending money on the war. Trump says when he comes back, he won't give a penny to Ukraine. That's when the war will be over."

- Viktor Orbán - March 10, 2024 on M1 Television, 2 days after meeting w Trump at Mar-a-lago

Good morning, Drive-by.

 

[JamieDimonsBalls]

"He says the following: first, he will not give a single penny for the Russo-Ukrainian war.

That's why the war will end. If Americans don't give money along with the Europeans, the war will end.

And if Americans don't give money then the Europeans won't be able to fund this war alone. And then the war will end. Donald Trump may not be president of the United States yet, but his party is stopping Democrats from spending money on the war. Trump says when he comes back, he won't give a penny to Ukraine. That's when the war will be over."

- Viktor Orbán - March 10, 2024 on M1 Television, 2 days after meeting w Trump at Mar-a-lago

 

[NewGuyToTheBoard]

Ending a war. Oh the humanity!

 

[IU_Hickory]

Ending a war. Oh the humanity!

You realize the war would end with Ukraine disappearing and countless lives lost right? Trump isn't talking about a ceasefire. He's talking about letting Putin have what he wants at the expense of Ukraine and its citizens.

Are you just hoping and praying Putin stops with Ukraine? or don't really care because Trump would have it all under control.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

You realize the war would end with Ukraine disappearing and countless lives lost right? Trump isn't talking about a ceasefire. He's talking about letting Putin have what he wants at the expense of Ukraine and its citizens.

And you just hoping and praying Putin stops with Ukraine?

Now tell us how the war will end with Biden in charge.

 

[DDE-6-20-23]

Now tell us how the war will end with Biden in charge.

 

[hoot1]

"He says the following: first, he will not give a single penny for the Russo-Ukrainian war.

That's why the war will end. If Americans don't give money along with the Europeans, the war will end.

And if Americans don't give money then the Europeans won't be able to fund this war alone. And then the war will end. Donald Trump may not be president of the United States yet, but his party is stopping Democrats from spending money on the war. Trump says when he comes back, he won't give a penny to Ukraine. That's when the war will be over."

- Viktor Orbán - March 10, 2024 on M1 Television, 2 days after meeting w Trump at Mar-a-lago

Actually, does Trump really have a clear vision when it comes to NATO and Russia, and what to do about Ukraine?

If he has one, what is it ?

Let us face it, NATO was originally formed in 1949 to stop the Soviet aggtession. Is Trump's thinking more along the lines that the original purpose of NATO is obsolete ?

 

[IU_Hickory]

Actually, does Trump really have a clear vision when it comes to NATO and Russia, and what to do about Ukraine?

If he has one, what is it ?

Let us face it, NATO was originally formed in 1949 to stop the Soviet aggtession. Is Trump's thinking more along the lines that the original purpose of NATO is obsolete ?

Putin is an awesome guy that would never lie to Trump. Why would we need an organization to defend ourselves from such a great person?

 

[NewGuyToTheBoard]

Actually, does Trump really have a clear vision when it comes to NATO and Russia, and what to do about Ukraine?

If he has one, what is it ?

Let us face it, NATO was originally formed in 1949 to stop the Soviet aggtession. Is Trump's thinking more along the lines that the original purpose of NATO is obsolete ?

Perhaps it's more provocative than it is useful at this point. Fear of Ukraine addition into NATO likely precipitated the invasion.

And all the protestations in the world that NATO is "Purely Defensive!" is little comfort as Putin watches former Soviet states fold one by one into the alliance and further encircle Russia.

The West did a piss poor job of welcoming Russia into the community of nations at the end of the Cold War and we're paying for it.

 

[IU_Hickory]

Perhaps it's more provocative than it is useful at this point. Fear of Ukraine addition into NATO likely precipitated the invasion.

And all the protestations in the world that NATO is "Purely Defensive!" is little comfort as Putin watches former Soviet states fold one by one into the alliance and further encircle Russia.

The West did a piss poor job of welcoming Russia into the community of nations at the end of the Cold War and we're paying for it.

Between NATO and Russia..only 1 has invaded a foreign country.

Have you ordered your "I love Putin" shirt yet?

 

[CO. Hoosier]

Actually, does Trump really have a clear vision when it comes to NATO and Russia, and what to do about Ukraine?

If he has one, what is it ?

Let us face it, NATO was originally formed in 1949 to stop the Soviet aggtession. Is Trump's thinking more along the lines that the original purpose of NATO is obsolete ?

I think Trump’s Russia/Euro policy is pretty clear along several lines: (Biden reversed all of these).

First, stop European dependency on Russian energy
Second, Increase USA energy exports to compete with Russia
Third, Recognizing that NATO has become a bureaucratic mess addicted to USA largesse, demand that Europe ups their game
Fourth, Make energy sanctions work
Fifth, If Russian assets are used to further operations against U.S. interests in the ME, hit them again with Tomahawks.
Sixth, Stop the Russia/Iran JCPOA nonsense.

 

[Palmbeachhoosier]

Now tell us how the war will end with Biden in charge.

With the war being extended and millions or perhaps billions of dollars spent More lives lost. Eventually Putin overrunning Ukraine.

 

[Bowlmania]

I think Trump’s Russia/Euro policy is pretty clear along several lines: (Biden reversed all of these).

First, stop European dependency on Russian energy
Second, Increase USA energy exports to compete with Russia
Third, Recognizing that NATO has become a bureaucratic mess addicted to USA largesse, demand that Europe ups their game
Fourth, Make energy sanctions work
Fifth, If Russian assets are used to further operations against U.S. interests in the ME, hit them again with Tomahawks.
Sixth, Stop the Russia/Iran JCPOA nonsense.

Seventh: Immediately stop all aid to Ukraine and allow Putin to annihilate a sovereign nation.
Eighth: Pull out of NATO and/or continue to undermine it, further emboldening Putin with respect to additional military aggression against American allies (or, perhaps by then, former allies).

 

[Spartans9312]

Seventh: Immediately stop all aid to Ukraine and allow Putin to annihilate a sovereign nation.
Eighth: Pull out of NATO and/or continue to undermine it, further emboldening Putin with respect to additional military aggression against American allies (or, perhaps by then, former allies).

Do you know what we did when Putin invaded Crimea?

 

[Ohio Guy]

You realize the war would end with Ukraine disappearing and countless lives lost right? Trump isn't talking about a ceasefire. He's talking about letting Putin have what he wants at the expense of Ukraine and its citizens.

Are you just hoping and praying Putin stops with Ukraine? or don't really care because Trump would have it all under control.

If Trump does end up winning in November, I hope he's called out relentlessly for not ending the war in Ukraine in one day as he's promised on multiple occasions.

Better yet, I wish more of the American electorate weren't morons who believed the kind of crap he peddles and he doesn't get elected.

 

[mcmurtry66]

If Trump does end up winning in November, I hope he's called out relentlessly for not ending the war in Ukraine in one day as he's promised on multiple occasions.

Better yet, I wish more of the American electorate weren't morons who believed the kind of crap he peddles and he doesn't get elected.

We feel the same about Biden

 

[JamieDimonsBalls]

Perhaps it's more provocative than it is useful at this point. Fear of Ukraine addition into NATO likely precipitated the invasion.

And all the protestations in the world that NATO is "Purely Defensive!" is little comfort as Putin watches former Soviet states fold one by one into the alliance and further encircle Russia.

The West did a piss poor job of welcoming Russia into the community of nations at the end of the Cold War and we're paying for it.

The Commies deserve what they got. Blaming others for one's actions is the stupidest excuse you can make. All of this NATO aggression and NATO has launched how many provocative attacks on any country, let alone Russia?

 

[NewGuyToTheBoard]

If Trump does end up winning in November, I hope he's called out relentlessly for not ending the war in Ukraine in one day as he's promised on multiple occasions.

Better yet, I wish more of the American electorate weren't morons who believed the kind of crap he peddles and he doesn't get elected.

Here's the dirty little secret. Not even Trump's most ardent supporters believe he'll end the war in "one day". They can discern difference between an embellishment and a lie. Something progressives either can't or are unwilling to do, because they like to use them as a cajole.

 

[IU_Hickory]

Here's the dirty little secret. Not even Trump's most ardent supporters believe he'll end the war in "one day". They can discern difference between an embellishment and a lie. Something progressives either can't or are unwilling to do, because they like to use them as a cajole.

Still waiting on mexico to pay for that wall...or was that an embellishment too?

 

[Ohio Guy]

Here's the dirty little secret. Not even Trump's most ardent supporters believe he'll end the war in "one day". They can discern difference between an embellishment and a lie. Something progressives either can't or are unwilling to do, because they like to use them as a cajole.

I don't believe that for a second. I think the people at his rallies - his most ardent supporters - believe he can cure cancer, buy the world a Coke and sing in perfect harmony.

And good luck hitting the moving target of a line between embellishment and lie with Trump. Have you listened to him talk for more than 30 seconds?

 

[NewGuyToTheBoard]

The Commies deserve what they got. Blaming others for one's actions is the stupidest excuse you can make. All of this NATO aggression and NATO has launched how many provocative attacks on any country, let alone Russia?

It's not a matter of who deserves what. Once Putin launched a full scale invasion it was incumbent upon the U.S. and the rest of NATO to help provide for their defense to a point until we could broker a a reasonable resolution. Instead the West has torpedoed peace negotiations and let Zelensky call the shots on what peace looks like.

Now it's looking increasingly likely that this war will end the way all U.S. interventions have ended the last 20+ years. The general public gets tired of footing the bill and the aggressors win out.

The only difference between end states is that 100's of thousands of Ukrainians had to die to get there.

 

[Palmbeachhoosier]

I don't believe that for a second. I think the people at his rallies - his most ardent supporters - believe he can cure cancer, buy the world a Coke and sing in perfect harmony.

And good luck hitting the moving target of a line between embellishment and lie with Trump. Have you listened to him talk for more than 30 seconds?

He won't need to cure cancer Biden said the other night that the vaccine will cure cancer.

 

[Ohio Guy]

Still waiting on mexico to pay for that wall...or was that an embellishment too?

We're also still waiting on his perfect health care plan from his first term to replace the ACA (which was really just trying to rebrand the ACA as his own). I'm not sure if that was a lie or embellishment though. More fortunate ineptitude.

 

[Ohio Guy]

He won't need to cure cancer Biden said the other night that the vaccine will cure cancer.

You can't just say stupid stuff and expect everyone to accept it. Link please.

 

[NewGuyToTheBoard]

And good luck hitting the moving target of a line between embellishment and lie with Trump. Have you listened to him talk for more than 30 seconds?

Sure you can. Just need to be well informed. If someone is still getting exercised over Trump promising the moon, they need to have their head checked.

 

[Palmbeachhoosier]

You can't just say stupid stuff and expect everyone to accept it. Link please.

Watch the SOTU. Also Newsweek .

 

[JamieDimonsBalls]

It's not a matter of who deserves what. Once Putin launched a full scale invasion it was incumbent upon the U.S. and the rest of NATO to help provide for their defense to a point until we could broker a a reasonable resolution. Instead the West has torpedoed peace negotiations and let Zelensky call the shots on what peace looks like.

Now it's looking increasingly likely that this war will end the way all U.S. interventions have ended the last 20+ years. The general public gets tired of footing the bill and the aggressors win out.

The only difference between end states is that 100's of thousands of Ukrainians had to die to get there.

There is no reasonable resolution. You are trying to create the idea of something that isn't pragmatic. I don't know what will ultimately unfold, but the Russians are weaker than they have ever been and the world can see it. Shit, there are now attacks in Russia and a counteroffensive being led by Russian-born rebels.

 

[Bowlmania]

Do you know what we did when Putin invaded Crimea?

Different in almost every way including causes, conditions, scope and tactical operations.

 

[NewGuyToTheBoard]

There is no reasonable resolution. You are trying to create the idea of something that isn't pragmatic. I don't know what will ultimately unfold, but the Russians are weaker than they have ever been and the world can see it. Shit, there are now attacks in Russia and a counteroffensive being led by Russian-born rebels.

BoJo sabotaged a peace deal. That’s common knowledge at this point. The breakaway regions of Ukraine are never coming back.

 

[Bowlmania]

He won't need to cure cancer Biden said the other night that the vaccine will cure cancer.

You should read more.

How mRNA Vaccines Might Help Treat Cancer

The success of COVID-19 mRNA vaccines could accelerate research on mRNA vaccines to treat cancer. Read about the progress of mRNA cancer vaccines.

www.cancer.gov

 

[IU_Hickory]

He won't need to cure cancer Biden said the other night that the vaccine will cure cancer.

Full 2024 President Biden State of the Union annotated and fact-checked

Read a line-by-line analysis of President Joe Biden's State of the Union address to Congress

www.cnn.com

He said "The pandemic no longer controls our lives. The vaccines that saved us from COVID are now being used to help beat cancer, turning setback into comeback. That's what America does."

MSN

Enlisting the immune system: mRNA cancer treatment new target for Biden administration

Messenger RNA-based technology would be used to turn off and on multiple genes within immune cells involved in cancer and chronic conditions like long COVID.

www.usatoday.com

So are you getting on Biden for telling the truth?

 

[JamieDimonsBalls]

BoJo sabotaged a peace deal. That’s common knowledge at this point. The breakaway regions of Ukraine are never coming back.

Let putin cook

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-launches-drones-oryol-fuel-facility-other-regions-russia-says-2024-03-12/

Putin defectors vow to 'liberate Russia' as tanks roll in from Ukraine

Tanks were seen rolling into Russia amid simultaneous incursions by Ukraine's Russian saboteurs in the Kursk and Belgorod regions.

www.newsweek.com

 

[IU_Hickory]

Watch the SOTU. Also Newsweek .

you should rewatch it and then actually verify before paraphrasing and claiming it is a lie.

 

[Palmbeachhoosier]

Full 2024 President Biden State of the Union annotated and fact-checked

Read a line-by-line analysis of President Joe Biden's State of the Union address to Congress

www.cnn.com

He said "The pandemic no longer controls our lives. The vaccines that saved us from COVID are now being used to help beat cancer, turning setback into comeback. That's what America does."

MSN

Enlisting the immune system: mRNA cancer treatment new target for Biden administration

Messenger RNA-based technology would be used to turn off and on multiple genes within immune cells involved in cancer and chronic conditions like long COVID.

www.usatoday.com

So are you getting on Biden for telling the truth?

So all I said was was the vaccine has cured cancer quote from Biden. However pretty sure the vaccine which has really not stopped anything including covid. Has not cured cancer either.

 

[DANC]

If Trump does end up winning in November, I hope he's called out relentlessly for not ending the war in Ukraine in one day as he's promised on multiple occasions.

Better yet, I wish more of the American electorate weren't morons who believed the kind of crap he peddles and he doesn't get elected.

Your worst nightmare is if Trump ends the war on terms acceptable to both Ukraine and Russia.

 

[Spartans9312]

Different in almost every way including causes, conditions, scope and tactical operations.

Lay it out there. What did we do when Putin invaded Crimea?

 

[hoot1]

Perhaps it's more provocative than it is useful at this point. Fear of Ukraine addition into NATO likely precipitated the invasion.

And all the protestations in the world that NATO is "Purely Defensive!" is little comfort as Putin watches former Soviet states fold one by one into the alliance and further encircle Russia.

The West did a piss poor job of welcoming Russia into the community of nations at the end of the Cold War and we're paying for it.

Believe it or not, it was my desire to assist the Soviet Union into the community of democratic capitalist nations long before it appeared the Cold War had ended.

Firmly believe joining the global economy in a competitive fashion with less emphasis on military power is the best way to bring world peace.

My peace through economic strength came to a brutal end with 9/11 and terrorism. Just what the terrorists wanted.

I think Trump’s Russia/Euro policy is pretty clear along several lines: (Biden reversed all of these).

First, stop European dependency on Russian energy
Second, Increase USA energy exports to compete with Russia
Third, Recognizing that NATO has become a bureaucratic mess addicted to USA largesse, demand that Europe ups their game

Fifth, If Russian assets are used to further operations against U.S. interests in the ME, hit them again with Tomahawks.
Sixth, Stop the Russia/Iran JCPOA nonsense.

CoH, according to this article USA energy exports to Europe did increase in 2022 when Biden happened to be in the Oval Office. As I often have said, the U.S. economy does has a life of its own beyond the influence of government.

The article in part states...

U.S. companies provided 50 percent of Europe’s liquefied natural gas supplies in 2022, along with 12 percent of its oil. Russian oil and gas shipments to the continent have shriveled by half, beset by boycotts, sanctions and an EU price cap. Global oil and gas trade routes have been redrawn and renewable energy development has received a massive financial and political shot in the arm.

 

[Ohio Guy]

Your worst nightmare is if Trump ends the war on terms acceptable to both Ukraine and Russia.

It's not really my worst nightmare. What a weird thing to say.

Do you really think that will happen? Because cutting aid/funding/support to Ukraine seems like it wouldn't end things on acceptable terms for both. I think one side would be happy though.

 

[IU_Hickory]

So all I said was was the vaccine has cured cancer quote from Biden. However pretty sure the vaccine which has really not stopped anything including covid. Has not cured cancer either.

lol, it slowed down covid quite a bit so I don't think i'll buy your load of crap on it not helping cancer either