so did i ,the easiest book is to kill a mockingbird. Be blessed of who you are,your history is not being sanitize.I guess you believe there is no racism?
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Thats good stuff. What's your address? I'll mail your son a copy of Bitcoin Standard and Basic Economics. We can't waste his talent on Socialism.
Snarlcakes, as the Cooler expert on bitcoin could you help me critique this essay which ends up stating the following.
Bitcoin and socialism are decentralized systems. It's safe to deduce not only are they compatible ideologies to a large extent but also that both Marx and Satoshi Nakamoto would be on the same wavelength if they ever met.
Remembering, or misremembering historical events is what leads to savagery like October 7. We have become obsessed with ugly history. I think it is remarkable that most of us know Lincoln’s birthday but not the day he shot. Now we know the day JFK was shot. but not his birthday. You are all in on teaching the atrocities of slavery but I doubt you know what happened on December 6. There is no useful purpose to blackwashing history.
Tell me why December 6 is not a national holiday. I think it should be.
Clickbait would be my answer. How does someone opt into or out of socialism? Bitcoin is basically a computer network people can choose to use or not use. Nobody is forced to opt in. Socialism doesn't share those characteristics.
That is a shallow stretch of an article. For example, how does Bitcoin advocate for redistribution of wealth?
Scarcity
Bitcoin not only advocates the redistribution of wealth but also there is a limited amount of Bitcoin that can ever be created. This makes it very compelling to see Marx embracing Bitcoin as socialism also advocates for policies that redistribute wealth, such as progressive taxation and social welfare programs.
If you live in a country with government ownership of some industries (socialism) or you live in a country completely devoid of government ownership (capitalism) how can you opt out without leaving the country ?
Bwahahahahahaha.
I called your bluff - your response (^^^) proves you are either trolling or you are truly ignorant of what you speak.
To Kill a Mockingbird is a fiction novel set in the 1930's "Jim Crow" Alabama.. It is not a history book. It does not "sanitize" slavery in any way. It actually criticizes race discrimination in very serious ways.
Very poor try. You should have at least read a "Cliff's Notes" report about the book before making claims it "sanitizes slavery." Hell, even Wikipedia might have prevented you this embarassment.
Play your race card elsewhere. Here, there be education and facts from which you flee. You've been brainwashed past the point of individual thought.
Do you think Blazing Saddles sanitizes slavery too?
You are black, you suggest students need to learn more about slavery . . . .
Yet you ask me about December 6?
That is revealing.
The 13th Amendment was officially ratified.
As a business owner you know that our economy, and the global economy are run on the tightest of margins. No one wants to carry safety stock (hold inventory) and the world is run to be 'just in time' for maximum efficiency and profitability.
So covid hits the globe and throws all calculations and patterns into chaos, which causes a massive disruption. People are scared to work, goods aren't being delivered, selling patterns are jumbled, panic hoarding are wiping weeks of inventory out. It has added more cost to the supply chain and created a spike in the gig economy cuz people want more stuff delivered.
Stimulus checks and PPP loans was the government trying to smooth everything out and get through the covid storm without it turning into a recession/depression.
So yeah, we spent during an economic crisis (just like we spent our way out of 2008) which is what we learned back in the great depression (and haven't had a depression since while stabilizing global markets).
That whole thing, including stimulus and PPP was putting inflationary pressure on things.
Then Putin invaded and oil spiked which took a massive shit on our economic recovery.
It was a Mike Tyson 1-2 punch. Two economic nuclear bombs in a row.
But we didn't fall into a recession and unemployment had stayed at all time lows as we recover.
Is there room for Monday morning quarterbacking...of course there is. We avoided a recession which I'll take every time. Unemployment is still at record lows, the stock market has made new all time highs, wage growth has now even outpaced inflation.
Surprise: Wage growth has actually outpaced the crushing inflation over the past 2.5 years, according to the JEC Democrats
"The economy appears to be doing better than a lot of people might realize or be willing to admit," one expert says.www.google.com
Compared to what was predicted, this is a massive pleasant surprise.
Lastly and I'm being serious, is there any true libertarian government success story to point to?
Seems like they either implode or turn into a fascist regime due to the social unrest that comes with minimal government.
View United States's Money Supply M2 from Jan 1959 to Nov 2023 in the chart:
max 1y 5y 10y bar line area spline areaspline column ApplyGet this dataKEY TAKEAWAYS
- Inflation occurs when the money supply of a country grows more rapidly than the economic output of a country.
- The Federal Reserve changes the money supply by buying short-term securities from banks, injecting capital into the economy.
- The quantity theory believes that the value of money, and the resulting inflation, is caused by the supply and demand of the currency.
- There are situations where increases in the money supply do not cause inflation, and other economic conditions like hyperinflation or deflation may occur instead.
- During COVID-19, the Federal Reserve materially increased the nation's money supply. As a result, the nation experienced higher-than-usual inflation.
He probably thinks the 13th Amendment sanitizes slavery.
I bet he had to look up the 13th Amendment.
I never said you could opt out of Socialism. I was trying to answer your question. Socialism confiscates peoples wealth and time. It’s one of the last forms of legalized slavery (Inflation being another). Bitcoin is a computer network that people can choose to use as a store of wealth, make transactions, and etc. They are nothing alike.
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What libertarian governments are you referring to?
On particular policies or leanings, I think you can find a lot to like:
Legalization of pot? Alcohol? Decriminalization of homosexuality?
Re economic policy, libertarians favor free markets. Do you need examples of free market success stories?
The Economy | Libertarian Party
Libertarians believe that all people have the right to freely offer goods and services on the market and that free-market approaches are the most effective at improving people’s lives. Our current economy is more crony capitalist than it is free, and that is responsible for the majority of...www.lp.org
That's the question really....if libertarian IS the perfect social system, where has it worked? Or is it more a spirit, a theory?
Somalia? They went to a near zero government, mainly privatized system and slid into a totalitarianism rule.
Latin American countries tend to be smaller and highly privatized compared to others...tend to be fascist in nature.
It makes sense if you can get over the dirty word fascist.
My understanding of a libertarian dream is most everything is privatized and government is minimized to basically enforcement and protection.
No bullshit compromising and negotiating, very little taxing and everyone has the opportunity to be an oligarch via the free market with little regulation from a pesky government.
Isn't that more of a libertarian ideal (free market but control the military for defense of the libertarian system particularly from the evil socialists) than a plodding democracy with an interfering government?
Just got to get the right guy.
Currently eyes are on Milei in Argentina as he's coming in and strongly privatizing it's government.
He's kind of a libertarian hero right now....which is why I'd bet money that he'll declare a police state within two years from all the social unrest he's going to cause and Argentina will fall into a 'fascist' regime under him.
But that government will be smaller and very free market friendly.
We'll see.
You seem to be using fascist and authoritarian interchangeably. Are you doing that on purpose?
Re Latin America, the nations that have gone the other way--looking at you Venezuela, Cuba--aren't doing so hot either, are they?
I agree there has never been a 100% libertarian nation, just as there has never been a 100% communist nation,a 100% democratic nation, or a 100% totalitarian nation.
Milei is going to be interesting. I don't think he's baking in the cost of abrupt change in human affairs (i.e. conservative notions). I hope he does or Argentina is going to suffer more.
I think 'authoritarian' is more about 'the state' whereas a fascist is more about 'the person' but yeah, it's not cut and dried.
Putin let's people get filthy rich...you just have to stay out of his political affairs. So what would he be....an authoritarian, a fascist, an autocracy?
Anyway you are correct that all of these theories.... libertarianism, capitalism, communism, socialism are not sustainable on their own... it's always a soup recipe.
My personal beliefs have always been economically to be 'free market friendly' but it needs watched to keep it from going off the rails.
It wants to go off the rails.
I know this is obvious to say but sometimes I don't think people get this, or they do but assume they won't be impacted by it.
The scaling back of oversight has led to our worst economic disasters from the great depression to the savings and loan to the financial crisis of 08.
It's led to our health care system being one of the most expensive in the world. It's led to the rise of medical specialization. Instead of one contact you now have five to ten all specializing on a part of your issue, and all taking a cut (capitalism baby!).
It's why trains are ticking time bombs now. They are up to 3 miles long and many times double stacked with having less people conducting because of..... efficiency.
In a nutshell, just about everytime we roll back neutral oversight....it will be exploited.
I mean the Glass-Stegal act that came out of the great depression new deal was deregulated and sure as shit, less than ten years later banks over leveraged themselves again and crashed and burned in 2008. Similar to the savings and loan crisis before it.
Anyway I've gone off topic.
I still wonder if I described a scenario where govt was minimized, only one party so things needed got done and just about everything was privatized except maybe the military if libertarians would go....oh hell yeah!!
I have had this argument in a Civil War group about Glory, where I was playing your part in this discussion. You aren't going to like the answer I was given, and on the micro level I do not. But I concede on the macro level it is true.
Glory/Mockingbird/most American fiction on race shows a Black in trouble who needs a White male to rescue them. Feminists by the way have the same complaint.
In Glory, the story is without their White officers the 54th would have been a useless collection like the seccesh army. Fortunately brave White men step in and risk everything to make the Blacks capable. More screen time is spent on the Colonel than anyone else.
Contrast this to Lord of the Rings. The betters, the elite, are present in Gandolf, Aragon, the Elves. But for 2/3rds of the story the fate of the world rests solely with two common folk. They don't need their betters, they complete the mission.
Now stand alone, I think all that is wrong. But it is SOP in American fiction to have the brave White male protagonist save the downtrodden peoples. Just another version of blond Jesus.
I love Mockingbird, I am very saddened it is banned anywhere. But it is also true the novel where Blacks band together to defeat racism is harder to find. In the case of Glory, the argument goes that was the one shot to tell the story of the men of the 54th, Hollywood isn't going to tackle it again. So all the time Broderick and Elwes received came at the expense of the real Black enlisted men (many were made up, or composite, in Glory).
So there, someone else's argument I tried to faithfully reproduce. Rail on it, don't, I have no dog in the fight.
I am going to double down. Texas isn't "succeeding" [sic] from the U.S. (Funny how most of these morons don't even know the right term). They are throwing a political fit to try and force the government to do its job. In response to this, these supporters of things like "sanctuary" cities, run to the internet to fantasize about murdering people like me. The fact that at this point all I seek is to send them to political purgatory is a gift.
For all the people screaming about MAGA (and there are issues there), how many of your coalition do you think hold views similar to the people thinking that the South needs another Sherman as do basically most of the red states? All these people flippantly talking Civil War thinking it is going to look like Gettysburg as opposed to Syria or Yugoslavia. Everyone dreaming about this on both sides is a moron.
Perhaps you can go find and share the list for us? The books being removed from schools or from youth reading sections in the library aren't books about slavery. Go ahead and list for me which unsanitized books about slavery have been removed from Indiana schools.
Top 13 Most Challenged Books of 2022
The American Library Association condemns censorship and works to defend each person's right to read under the First Amendment and ensure free access to information. Every year, ALA's Office for Intellectual Freedom (OIF) compiles a list of the Top 10 Most Challenged Books in order to inform the...
Here were the top 13 books challenged in 2022. Every single one was challenged for sexual content, not racial.
Because most people think their representative or senator is doing a good job....it's all the other clowns that are the problem.
Good grief. Did anybody in those chat rooms point out the utter stupidity of that argument?
This post confirms that we are indeed on the road to dystopia.
Another lesson imparted. Well done professor
That complaint about Mockingbird is decades old. I read about it in the 90s. I'm sure it existed before then.
The real shame is that we have radicals in the US Senate. It used to be a place for serious , sober statesmen. It’s become more like what the House used to be. The House. Well it’s beyond saving at this point.
The great Todd Rundgren said it best...
Oh, you said, "dystopia".
Never mind.
Oh, you said, "dystopia".
Never mind.
Snarlcakes, don't advocates of cryptocurrency believe not having to deal with banks and money under the influence of agencies such as the Federal Reserve offer advantages ?
Granted countries with socialism such as China reject cryptocurrency transactions, but capitalist countries such as the United States still cling to the notion that our quasi privately controlled Federal Reserve system promotes wealth and helps to control inflation.
Personally, I don't buy into the notion that our banking and currency system is akin to socialism except in using a broad definition of socialism designed to promote cryptocurrency ownership.
Having said all that, IMO cryptocurrency in some form or other is destined to be part of the world's financial future.
What do you mean by that? That it won't change back or that it isn't worth trying? Genuinely curious. I agree with the first but don't want to admit the second.
Repealing the 17th Amendment would help the Senate. Don’t know what to do about the house. Maybe repeal the 19th? The ratio of women nut jobs exceed their proportion to the whole.
I’m not an advocate of cryptocurrencies, just Bitcoin. It’s not necessarily dealing with banks. Banks would still exist. The big idea is the separation of state and money. If you have 20 hours I linked the 1st episode of an excellent 9 part series that covers money, economics, Bitcoin, and a host of other things.
I disagree. It’s a designed system that purposely tries to steal 2% (most likely more) of your wealth each year. 2% seems to be an acceptable level humans will accept.
I’m not sure what’s the best classification for our current system. I wouldn’t call it a free market system.
I’m not sure on cryptocurrencies. However, the future of Bitcoin is its continuation of becoming the world’s reserve asset. Accessible to everyone and not controlled by any government, state, or person. It’s designed to end central banks. The sooner it does that, the better off humanity will be.
One last thought. Ask yourself what is money? It seems like a relative easy question, but it’s extremely complex in my opinion. My simplest definition is it’s how humans save their time (labor) to purchase time (labor) from someone else in the future. It’s why monetary inflation is so evil in my opinion. You’re stealing someone’s finite time and humans shouldn’t have that control over other humans. Bitcoin fixes this and it’s why crazy dumb f#cks like myself won’t ever sell or relent 🤣
I reject the premise.
Glory ACCURATELY showed that the Union required black troops to have white officers - it does not inaccurately "portray" that fact for the purpose of diminishing black people or - as relevant to this thread - for the purpose of "sanitizing" slavery. PS - I thought Broderick was the worst mis-casting in Hollywood history! Him as a union Civil War officer? Never bought it.
Same with Mockingbird - it ACCURATELY shows that even 60 years after the Civil War, black people suffered from the worst discrimination no matter what - not even a white (alleged) "hero" could make a dent in that horror.
That is not what you said - You said books were being used in Indiana schools to "sanitize slavery" - look at your quotes below
So I asked you to name one book "being used in any Indiana school that sanitizes slavery" - - you named "To Kill a Mockingbird" (and even accused me of believing there is no racism!).
Now, if you REALLY claim that Mockingbird is being banned from schools - even in Florida - for the purpose of "sanitizing slavery" - I still call BS. First, I would suggest that any ban is because it deals with multiple "adult" issues like rape, addiction, mental illness, child abuse, divorce, etc. And here is a link from History.com citing its use of the N-word to ban it from 8th grade in Mississippi:
Why ‘To Kill a Mockingbird’ Keeps Getting Banned | HISTORY
Biloxi, Mississippi, will remove the book from school curriculums.
www.history.com
And (you REALLY won't like this one) here is a 2019 article about the Indiana NAACP objections to it for the same reason:
Controversy over a literary classic: Teaching 'To Kill a Mockingbird' generates calls to ban the book for racial slurs - The Republic News
Where the pages meet the bind, so does a decades-old argument about what many describe as an American literary classic: “To Kill A Mockingbird.” The book, authored by white American novelist Harper Lee, has been at the forefront of criticisms across the nation in libraries and schools for...
www.therepublic.com
(Why would you call the NAACP racist? Who is teaching you this crap?)
(Also, DeSantis did not ban it either. Here is a link from AP - https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-florida-schools-to-kill-a-mockingbird-201081596097 )
You need to stop ignoring facts that are inconsistent with what you want to believe.
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