Holocaust, bad.
You think this flag is a racist tell?
You want examples of white people having their civil rights violated? Here's a half century of it. Start way back with Affirmative Action all the way up to last week when Mayor de Blasio proposed to replace NYC's qualifying exam for the city's elite high schools with racial quotas. And of course all of the diversity policies in between.
You are correct, it isn't. However, there are morons that do believe that flag and that phrase of "DONT TREAD ON ME" (no apostrophe in the original, so that's accurate) are indications that the person flying the flag or who has that phrase on something is a racist. What it really indicates is that the people thinking that are totally clueless idiots.
So YOU are a moron who knows NOTHING about of what you speak. That flag is flown on the jack staff on the bow of every US Navy ship every single fricking day.
You agree with Marc Thiessen.
The only clueless morons I know that conflate the DONT TREAD ON ME phrase with racism are actual racists like below
No, but the flag could easily become a symbol for that group and anybody who then suddenly started flying the flag because of any common bond with those demonstrations would be reinforcing that notion. It would be fair to note use and symbolism of the flag for those purposes.
Sheesh, try reading before flaming. I said the only people I knew who made the mistake of thinking the phrase is racist are actual racists. I never said the phrase or the flag is racist. Peace man!
Why would we let any group coopt our symbols? Why would we stop flying our IU flags because some extremist group (left or right) decided they thought it was a cool flag or symbol? I think fighting against the misuse of our symbols and flags is the better option.
Sorry, I actually did misread your post. Apologies!Sheesh, try reading before flaming. I said the only people I knew who made the mistake of thinking the phrase is racist are actual racists. I never said the phrase or the flag is racist. Peace man!
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Apology accepted. And here is an article in case anyone actually wants to think about the flag, the phrase and its evolving meaning.Sorry, I actually did misread your post. Apologies!
"Implying" is what CO.H does. He will unambiguously imply all sorts of horrible things, and then when you disagree with them, he will rest on the fact that he didn't actually say any of that explicitly. When you push him to then explicitly state what he intended with his previous implications, he will steadfastly refuse to do so. That is the game he plays, and has been playing for some time.
In your previous post you made no actual argument at all and then capped it off with "see how that works" as if not only had an argument been made but that the argument was obviously true. I responded to that post because it struck me as an exemplar of what I have been calling "jackleg inner lawyering"--transparently fallacious logic combined with laughable empirics in the service of prejudice rather than actual values.
Nowhere did I say that you called all Salvadorans MS13 gang members. I say that your juxtaposition of MS13 with Central American refugees is prejudicial in the extreme for the refugees. In effect the jackdog lawyer indicts the entire group for the crimes of individuals. There is a typo in you post above. You mistakenly substitute left for right. The fallacy you mention as well as the example are stock-in-trade of the right.
I think he’s confusing the Navy Jack with the Gadsden Flag. The Navy Jack is entirely not linked to racism and nationalism. The Gadsden flag assuredly is. The typical flier of the Gadsden flag, in my experiences, fits the narrative of the criticism.So YOU are a moron who knows NOTHING about of what you speak. That flag is flown on the jack staff on the bow of every US Navy ship every single fricking day.
It's the First Navy Jack and we've been flying it since 2002 in place of the union jack. Before that it was flown on the oldest ship in the Navy. It was flown over every Navy ship in the Navy's early days too. Learn some history and obtain some common sense, idiot.
Further proof he’s a moron.
I don’t disagree re: Gadsden flag but in my neck of the woods it’s been so co-opted by the neckbeards that at this point it’s a blatant support of white nationalism. Doesn’t make it right, but it is what it is. Remember the swastika wasn’t a symbol of Naziism - until it was.
Anyone that knows me would know I’m flying it in support of patriotism alone. I don’t care what others might think. If some liberal stranger takes offense, that might be a bonus - I hope the UK fans that see my IU flag are offended by it.
The propagandist first stimulates the prejudice and then provides the jackleg lawyering that "rationalizes" it. The introduction of prejudicial evidence accompanied by innuendo rather than argument is well-understood tactic in legal circles. But what is strictly prohibited in the courtroom is the stock-in-trade of the unscrupulous politician/propagandist. The propagandist and his dupe say the same thing making it hard to distinguish between them.
