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If Biden slow walks his decision to run, it paralyzes all other potential candidates-except Harris. If Biden thinks she’s been loyal and wants her to be the nominee if he doesn’t run, she has a huge advantage because Biden can hand over his political organization and operation as an incumbent, overnight.

Tactically you very well may be correct. Choosing her in the first place was a tactical, political decision that may or may not have helped the ticket (I actually don't think it mattered). I just don't think she's got the heft to head the ticket. BICBW.
 
Did you see SNL and Chappelle's monologue? HIs pseudo-exchange between Trump and Hilary/Obama was spot on.

Trump knew what a swamp it is because HE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE TAX CODE HIMSELF and said he knew it wouldn't change because the insiders were getting rich off it. He also knew all the players because they were all asking him for money previous to 2016 (Dave didn't say that, but I added it).

I know, and acknowledge, every one of Trump's faults. But I think the man, wittingly or unwittingly, is almost single-handedly saving the Republic from itself by exposing the absolute criminal and traitorous behavior of DC politicians.

Whether Trump wins or loses is immaterial to me - I think he's going to go balls-to-the-wall in exposing DC for what it is during the campaign, and I welcome it.
I didn't see the SNL thing but I am with the rest 100%. Trump doesn't have to win, for US to win. I can not think of any better selfless act than that, to expose what "we" have allowed to grow in DC. To be clear, I am part of what has allowed this. I'm now calling my dragon back!
OF the people
FOR the people
BY the people!
Trump making his final stand to save us ... That's kinda .... biblical...


(ok that last part was just to rile up the brainwashed). :) it felt pretty good too.
 
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Until money is separated from the state there is always going to be a “swamp”. Too much power to be had. The entire point of Bitcoin is to drain the swamp, by the way, peacefully. Trump is not needed and is just another iteration of the swamp.
Wouldn't bribery via bitcoin be untraceable?
 
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Wouldn't bribery via bitcoin be untraceable?
The transaction would be on the ledger, but you wouldn’t know who sent it, necessarily. The FBI did track down 1,000s of Bitcoin that was stolen off one of the exchanges a yearish ago.

Hopefully, to answer your overall question, bad actors will/do have access to Bitcoin and will use it for nefarious things, just like the internet, dollars, and etc.
 
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If Biden slow walks his decision to run, it paralyzes all other potential candidates-except Harris. If Biden thinks she’s been loyal and wants her to be the nominee if he doesn’t run, she has a huge advantage because Biden can hand over his political organization and operation as an incumbent, overnight.
Except Biden is old with low approval ratings. I suspect challengers will try to beat him to the punch.
 
So are certain posters here.
Yeah but they aren't running to represent my interests as President. For me it simply comes down to electability, I don't think he can win a national election again so we need to find someone who can.
 
Ross Perot was the closest thing we've had in modern times to what you are describing. Lots of differences as well, I'll grant you, but the result would be the same, methinks.
Perot was my guy, the first politician that I really related to.

He was actually leading in the summer and then.....the paranoia crazy that we didn't know he had (must be a billionaire thing) reared it's head and he just quit.

Then tried to get back in it late in the fall.

Obviously that killed any hope but he played spoiler for Bush....but he was the leader in the summer before the crazy came out (and then his running mate had an absolutely disastrous debate, confirming the eccentric billionaire for president is more likely to come with an ocean liner of crazy.
 
If Shapiro is the politician you guys are saying he is, why would he play second fiddle to a fifth (or lower) rate politician like Harris.
Shapiro won’t or shouldn’t piss off PA voters by turning around and running for POTUS 15 minutes after winning the Governorship. I wish that weren’t the case. I think he’s prime VP material in the 2024 cycle, and presidential timber, thereafter.

Harris is liked on the coasts much more than people realize. If she chose Shapiro as her VP, assuming he would carry PA for her, she would only need Michigan to win the race. I say this with not knowing FOR SURE just how well she’s liked liked on the coasts, since Newsom seems ready to challenge her, and they are friends coming from the same machine.
 
Harris is liked on the coasts much more than people realize. If she chose Shapiro as her VP, assuming he would carry PA for her, she would only need Michigan to win the race.

I want to like her but I just haven't been impressed. I can't put my finger on it, but something is just missing with her. I'd love to be enthusiastic about a Harris candidacy -- it would make things a whole helluva lot simpler -- but it's just not there. Maybe that could change, but I'm not confident.
 
I want to like her but I just haven't been impressed. I can't put my finger on it, but something is just missing with her. I'd love to be enthusiastic about a Harris candidacy -- it would make things a whole helluva lot simpler -- but it's just not there. Maybe that could change, but I'm not confident.
does it sound like Clint Eastwood?
 
I want to like her but I just haven't been impressed. I can't put my finger on it, but something is just missing with her. I'd love to be enthusiastic about a Harris candidacy -- it would make things a whole helluva lot simpler -- but it's just not there. Maybe that could change, but I'm not confident.
It's no secret I don't like Harris. I hope she doesn't get the nod. But if she does, she's likely to be better than whatever nonsense the GOP nominates.
 
I want to like her but I just haven't been impressed. I can't put my finger on it, but something is just missing with her. I'd love to be enthusiastic about a Harris candidacy -- it would make things a whole helluva lot simpler -- but it's just not there. Maybe that could change, but I'm not confident.
Maybe because she just doesn’t give off the impression of having any depth. Say what you will about someone easy to hate - and we’ll use Pelosi as an example, and I definitely hate her - if the person can organize and plan and work through issues - even if her solutions are abhorrent- at least you can appreciate that she can think critically.
 
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I want to like her but I just haven't been impressed. I can't put my finger on it, but something is just missing with her. I'd love to be enthusiastic about a Harris candidacy -- it would make things a whole helluva lot simpler -- but it's just not there. Maybe that could change, but I'm not confident.
I think the word you're looking for is substance. She has none. She is a prime example of someone promoted because they check certain boxes - and I don't think I have to spell that out.
 
Maybe because she just doesn’t give off the impression of having any depth.

I think the word you're looking for is substance.

I thought she acquitted herself well in the Senate, especially on the Judiciary Committee. None of that seemed to translate to her Presidential campaign or to the Vice Presidency.
 
I thought she acquitted herself well in the Senate, especially on the Judiciary Committee. None of that seemed to translate to her Presidential campaign or to the Vice Presidency.
I don't remember seeing her do anything on Judiciary Committee, but she could have.

Being the one questioning is a lot different than having to answer questions and think on your feet. From what I've seen of committee hearings, the questions/statements are written out and it's all scripted.
 
I think the word you're looking for is substance. She has none. She is a prime example of someone promoted because they check certain boxes - and I don't think I have to spell that out.
I can’t even begin to picture her meeting with Putin or Xi without also seeing Putin or Xi breaking out in laughter.

Rather like Ryan Day contemplating facing Tom Allen.
 
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SO now Trump has had 2 yrs to build alliances and operatives to expose the swamp even more. DC has proven that $ and secure lifestyles cause people to suddenly remember things that they witnessed in the past. Does Trump have the goods, even if he gets beat, to shine the light to ALL of us, of our corrupt DC, and then 1) he goes down, 2) we all come together to control our "controllers" as it was intended to be.. He said initially that he would drain the swamp.

Nany Pelosi in an Urn is a pretty good start.


Yea I know that is deleat worthy, but a few will see it and I have it screen shotted.
You really think it is "deleat worthy"?

That says a lot about your thought process.
 
He has nothing to personally gain from any of this, even in 2016!
You serious?

The ability to grift millions of dollars from blind followers

The ability to dodge repercussions from breaking the law

The ability to funnel foreign dignitaries to his many Trump properties

The ability to stroke his ego and be the center of attention

I could go on but acting like Trump has nothing to gain is about the funniest thing I have read on this site.
 
You serious?

The ability to grift millions of dollars from blind followers

The ability to dodge repercussions from breaking the law

The ability to funnel foreign dignitaries to his many Trump properties

The ability to stroke his ego and be the center of attention

I could go on but acting like Trump has nothing to gain is about the funniest thing I have read on this site.
No, please go on, how is this any different than any politician in the last 50 yrs. I know you must be ovulating, but concentrate, how is it any different than the DC normal.? why is it a problem now? ohhhh I know why.
 
No, please go on, how is this any different than any politician in the last 50 yrs. I know you must be ovulating, but concentrate, how is it any different than the DC normal.? why is it a problem now? ohhhh I know why.
Tampon comments, ovulating, fear of transgender kids dominating sports. You are an odd dude. You secure in your masculinity?
 
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You present a plausible scenario. But did you catch Trump's announcement? I didn't, but saw some highlights. That was not a typical Trump speech. Much of the bombast was gone and he stated actual policy goals.

I think Trump may be changing his presentation, if not his message. It may be more difficult for Desantis to run effectively against this Trump than the 2020 Trump.

Desantis is the flavor of the month with the wind at his back right now. But wait until the media starts digging into him - he'll be the devil by Primary time in 2024.
You really think Trump is going to change the way he’s been his entire life because of one speech? He’s done this multiple times. Don’t be duped again. He couldn’t change even if he wanted to. And he has no desire .
 
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The negatives that he brings is the machine that was designed to beat him.
I'm ok with giving him him his retirement with dignity, but he opened our eyes, and the machine was designed on Clinton's and Pelosi's ownership (of which was longer than most of our lives) of the FBI and the DOJ.
DC slime creatures support DC slime creatures.

The sooner Pelosi is in an Urn, the better. That's just one step though. ANd they have you all so hoodwinked. I've never had less respect for humanity.
Retirement with dignity? When has the word dignity ever been used to describe Trump? It’s so interesting that his cult thinks every one else is slimy, Clinton, Pelosi, FBI, DOJ, and Trump is clean as can be. That’s why he’s dealt with lawsuits his entire life. And your comments about Pelosi are disgusting. She’s one of the most effective Speakers in history.
 
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Simple Human Nature. Trump knows he is "past prime", and will take the final hit to himself, to expose more of the swamp.
He has nothing to personally gain from any of this, even in 2016!
his Kids don't have anything $$ to gain that they would ever need.

Trump has seen into the belly of the beast, as an outsider and (as he promised) would spend his life to drain the swamp.
He's been allowed to grab all of the pussies he could ever want to. If you have $$ or power.. guess what, they actually do let you do that for those reasons. Convince me differently! Is it "right"??? not for me to judge, but Women will let men/ women/ lizards/ snakes/ politicians/ lgbtqastfdinsgt's grab them anywhere, if they may get 15 seconds of fame. To claim otherwise is ... I don't think I have the word to describe the level of elementary.
What are your thoughts on he and his children and Jared enriching themselves during his entire presidency? What do you think of Jared’s 2 billion dollars from the Saudis? You know, his bud that dismembered the reporter. Drain that swamp is kind of hard when you are the head swamp master.m
 
No, please go on, how is this any different than any politician in the last 50 yrs. I know you must be ovulating, but concentrate, how is it any different than the DC normal.? why is it a problem now? ohhhh I know why.
But I thought the other politicians were the swamp. If Trump is not any different then hard to claim he is cleaning up the swamp.

In the case of benefiting from being elected, I never said Trump was different. You are the one claiming that he gains nothing personally. That is outrageous which is why you are skipping defending that claim.
 
Did you see SNL and Chappelle's monologue? HIs pseudo-exchange between Trump and Hilary/Obama was spot on.

Trump knew what a swamp it is because HE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE TAX CODE HIMSELF and said he knew it wouldn't change because the insiders were getting rich off it. He also knew all the players because they were all asking him for money previous to 2016 (Dave didn't say that, but I added it).

I know, and acknowledge, every one of Trump's faults. But I think the man, wittingly or unwittingly, is almost single-handedly saving the Republic from itself by exposing the absolute criminal and traitorous behavior of DC politicians.

Whether Trump wins or loses is immaterial to me - I think he's going to go balls-to-the-wall in exposing DC for what it is during the campaign, and I welcome it.
Saving the Republic from itself? Little hyperbole there?
 
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I also can't see Trump launching a successful political party. I can see him launching a political party, but it'd go the way his football league, casinos, steaks, wines, university, social media platform and pretty much everything he touches - straight to shit.
I think Trump would rather burn down the Republican Party if he can’t win the primary. He’d go Independent just to take DeSantis down.
 
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I thought she acquitted herself well in the Senate, especially on the Judiciary Committee.
Of course you did.
None of that seemed to translate to her Presidential campaign or to the Vice Presidency.

She was awful in the Kavanaugh hearings, just awful. No depth . No gravitas. No content. Just ankle biting. But she was among her Democrat equals and her incompetence wasn’t so obvious. As VP she is on her own and is a miserable failure.
 
I didn't see the SNL thing but I am with the rest 100%. Trump doesn't have to win, for US to win. I can not think of any better selfless act than that, to expose what "we" have allowed to grow in DC. To be clear, I am part of what has allowed this. I'm now calling my dragon back!
OF the people
FOR the people
BY the people!
Trump making his final stand to save us ... That's kinda .... biblical...


(ok that last part was just to rile up the brainwashed). :) it felt pretty good too.
Man there are a lot of takes one could take on this whole thing.

Trump running for POTUS as a "selfless act" might be the most absurd take one could possibly have.
 
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