He's probably trying to prevent Trump from ordering the DOJ to dig up everything they can in order to find some other reason to prosecute him.
Hunter Biden on trial
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I think that is true but I still don't think it's right and it has nothing to do with Biden. In general, I just don't agree with pardons unless it appears that a real miscarriage of justice has occurred.
And he probably thought there was something there to dig up. I think it's better to do a blanket pardon rather than spending time and money for the next few years prosecuting him for something that could never be definitely proved.
I'm not really interested in getting in a pissing match about how bad neighborhoods are. Your idea of college towns is made up of some combination of watching Fox News and bad movies. You do have your far-left leaning people, but it's not all like that. For a rural Appalachian town, it's fairly diverse, thanks to the University. The way it's played out, I'm glad my kids have grown up in DC and where we are now. Two wildly different perspectives and experiences.
I think this has more to do with it than most want to give it credit for. Going after Hunter Biden is the sort of low-hanging fruit/red meat he could deliver to his base relatively quickly. I'm not saying Hunter Biden is free from sin - I'm fully assuming that he's a eff-up with a serious substance abuse problem - but there was a little doubt Trump would want to dig up something on him so he could flaunt that he went after "the Biden crime family."
Or the cynic might say that by doing this, it also shuts down investigations that could lead back to Joe and his brother.
It's a no win situation. As a dad, I understand why he did and just assumed a pardon was coming one way or another despite all the fuss to the contrary. He was due to be sentenced this month on the tax evasion and gun charges.
I think the sweeping pardon has more to do with what Goat said. Biden wanted to spare his son from Trump's DOJ spending time digging anything they could up on his son for the next several years and then holding up whatever they could dig up as proof that he held 'the Biden crime family' accountable.
The standard I 'require' from Biden's accusers is something several accusations against Trump have: credible proof and in some cases convictions. Saying that 'you just know' something or you 'think' something is a certain way without any real proof isn't really common sense - it's wishful thinking bordering on conspiracy theory. Don't you have your law degree?
And try all you want, you won't get an 'emperor has no clothes' moment on Joe Biden from me. Yes, I voted for the guy, but mostly because he wasn't Trump. That's largely where my enthusiasm and loyalty ends with him. I think he did some good things as president and he didn't do any irrevocable damage. In 100 years kids will miss an extra credit question about the one-term president who served as Barack Obama's VP. If actual, real, provable crimes are exposed put him and jail and throw the key away for all I care.
Of course you think it has to do more with trump and not Biden’s bad actions. A sweeping pardon that goes back a decade. That’s bc you’re a far left apologist with little objectivity.
As crazed and anyone with an ounce of common sense in the real world notes of course joe was the big guy. Having law experience only bolsters that belief
Well, your experience appears to be very different than mine. Not surprising that you wouldn't be able to see beyond your own worldview
Lmao go follow Ohio U’s instagram the last four years or any other and see just how woke it is.
I see well beyond it. Bc I don’t live in a tiny college town and have a lot more experience than you.
Any topic that pops on this board I could write your take on it in two seconds. Vapid parroted campus stupidity. Signed indoctrinated
That's not what I said. But if that's where you want to land and what you want to believe, knock yourself out.
Biden wanted to spare his son from trump’s Doj.
Did you write that?
How about a guy guilty of tax evasion?
How about fraud to obtain a gun?
How about no one is above the law?
How about one of the most historically sweeping pardons written that will capture shady business dealings as well.
But trump….
That’s you. And again makes my point you’ll never see
Looks like some Democrats' are upset with him but that it won't be long before they're back on their high horse telling us how bad the other side is and bragging about their morals(same as the Rs would do in a similar situation)
www.yahoo.com
Some Democrats are frustrated over Joe Biden reversing course and pardoning his son Hunter
Already reeling from their November defeats, Democrats now are grappling with President Joe Biden’s pardoning of his son for federal crimes, with some calling the move misguided and unwise after the party spent years slamming Donald Trump as a threat to democracy who disregarded the law. The...
I absolutely did write that. And yes, Hunter Biden is guilty of crimes. And he's a f*$k up. I've said that multiple times in this thread. I also never defended Job Biden going back on his 'above the law' comment.
So, to your point, we agree that Hunter Biden is likely going to skate on crimes.
For what it's worth I do think it at least crossed Biden's mind that he didn't want Trump to hammer his son over the next several years. I'm not saying it absolves anything, but as a father I can see why he might want to shield his son from that. Like others here, I get it. That was my point and I've said as much several times in this thread.
Even though you won't type it out, I know you're probably thinking it. Apology accepted.
What does an instagram account have to do with the way I live my life or the experiences I've had? College instagram accounts are mainly focused on recruiting and I haven't been in that target demographic for a long time.
I don't know why you're so obsessed with putting me in a box. For what it's worth, I'm probably one of the more open people here about who I am in real life. That's on me - I don't feel like I have much to hide. If you have any questions, just ask and I'll very likely answer. Based on this thread alone, your idea of where I stand on any number of what you'd call 'woke' topics is very wrong.
hunter was convicted of those crimes. We all know that. The pardon isn’t limited to same. It’s sweeping. It prevents further investigations that could implicate the big guy. It’s absurd from a temporal standpoint as well as what it encompasses. If he has nothing to hide he has nothing to fear
Admit that the Dems are no better than trump and I’ll view you differently going forward. From the incessant lies and the political “justice” to the threat to democracy bs from a candidate the public never cast a vote for.
You’re a long way from an apology
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I judge your bias on your posting history. That you live in a college town is congruent with same. Red Ohio but I guarantee Athens is blue. That university ees and community are blue isn’t a revelation. It’s common knowledge. And as I said I count you among the farthest left of all posters on the board. Post differently and I’ll think otherwise
Admit that the Dems are worse than Trump and I’ll view you differently going forward. It’s that easy.
'Admit the Dems are no better than Trump.' No, I won't do that.
That doesn't mean any of the red pill/blue pill BS of not seeing what actually is or something like that. I don't toe the party line for Democrats. There are definitely things we agree on and things we're probably surprisingly aligned with. You need to stop with the idea of anyone who doesn't synch with everything you believe is dumb. You talk about having so much experience - in my experience those are the people who are most open-minded and have a pretty expansive worldview.
Just say that Musk is your hero and Dems need leadership who are right of right and left of MAGA. Then you shall gain acceptance.
You have a very limited, non-diverse base of contacts if you count me as the farthest left of any group you associate with.
I have an open mind. You don’t. I’ve read your endless posts. Hence why I labeled you one of the farthest left posters
Dems used a political agenda to go after trump
Refused to prosecute Biden for same
Lied incessantly about Biden’s condition
Lied about all the major policy issues from abortion to inflation to criminals entering the country
Thwarted an investigation into the big guy
And inserted a presidential candidate without a single vote from the public.
You think somehow they’re not as bad? Please.
Did I add I don’t think you’re very bright? I clearly wrote of all posters on this board not “any group you associate with.” I volunteer. I’m around psychotic woke people often. Perhaps poor reading comp is why you are the way you are and don’t recognize it
You are a massive leftist. That’s okay. Nothing wrong with being a partisan. Own it.
Big differences, probably more than you can grasp.
Kushner was detained for two years and fined the maximum amounts allowed for his offenses.
Biden was never sentenced. Neither detained nor fined. No sentence.
Kushner had consequences.
Biden had ' the Big Guy'....
I hate to break it to you, but there are real people behind these monikers. And this is a group of people.
I hate to break it to you but I wrote posters as the topical group. Not “any group” i associate with. Your comp isn’t getting any better
You're not really this dense, are you? You're trying to split hairs because you were wrong. And stupidly so.
This group of posters would be included in any group of people you associate with. I'm not responding to this idea of who are groups of people and who aren't. It's stupid. Quit being a dumbass.
My guess is that both of you have a network of center-right to far-right people and have never met a 'leftist.'
That's why I say if you think I'm a leftist you don't get out much.
My guess is that you are amongst the farthest left posters on this board and if we were to include you in ALL OF THE GROUPS I associate with which includes many more than this group of posters here you’d be one of the dumbest people I associate with in any capacity across multiple groups, I.e. not just posters here which was what was clearly stated in my original post.
Your guess is most definitely wrong. And I was never really looking for your approval. Maybe it's time to go hang out with some of those 'many more groups' of people and step away from the keyboard. I'm heading out, so if you want to rage post against me some more, you'll have to do it on your own for a bit.
I’m not rage posting. Your reading comp is terrible per usual. I like Chicago just think you’re a far lefty based on your posting history. Sorry that bothers you. Funny how your type doesn’t want to own that anymore. Have you swiped your pronouns from your signature?
CNN reporting Jill forced Joe to issue the pardon. He didn’t want to, but I guess he was afraid of his ice cream being taken away.
