"Hitler did a lot of good things"- Donald Trump, to his Chief of Staff
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I haven’t attended church in years but I have news for you. I know many ministers that work their rear ends off. My 83 year old mom who does attend church regularly enjoys and finds comfort in visits and prayers with her minister in times of bad health, death and other issues.
I have read it. Homosexuals or people with mental or physical disabilities fared no better in the Third Reich than did Jews, Slavs, or Gypsies. The differences are ones of quantity, not of kind.
We weren't discussing how many different groups fared badly. We were discussing what the defining characteristics of Nazism were. Nazis didn't like gays or Slavs or Gypsies, for sure, but their ideology wasn't defined by hatred of any of those groups. It was defined by hatred of Jews.
This is an historical reality, and it's hard to imagine why you are fighting against it. Even the dissenting groups within the Nazis agreed that the Jews were the main problem. Strasser thought Hitlerism was only a half-revolution, specifically because he didn't do enough to tear down the capitalist system that was built by Jews at the expense of Germans. Punishing individual Jews wasn't enough. They needed to go after what might ironically be termed "systemic Judaism."
This is what Nazism was. It was nationalism based on antisemitism. Period.
No it isn't. You asserted one thing, COH is compelled to argue the opposite. He's clever enough and good enough with the language to not come off sounding totally absurd, and fools people like @mcmurtry66 into thinking he's some kind of intellectual heavyweight. In actuality, he's just a crank with a good vocabulary.
Especially confusing in the light that, if he would just admit that antisemitism was the core of Nazism, it would tie in nicely to his earlier claim that modern Democrats are invariably antisemitic.
He'd rather try and one-up you than maintain any semblance of intellectual consistency.
I never claimed modern Democrats are invariably anti-sematic. I said the only expressly anti-semites in congress are Democrats. I think you are once again posting towards right and wrong. I said Nazism was about Arian Supremacy and notions of the Master Race. You say the focus was Jews. Not much difference, but we do know there were more deplorables than Jews.
Aryan, BTW. Arians were heretics in the 3rd Century. Aryan was a racial category used by the Nazis to refer to non-Jewish Germanic peoples*.
*Edit: That's really poorly phrased. I should say, Aryan was a racial category that was roughly equivalent to what we would call Indo-European, which, according to the Nazis, was most purely retained in Northern Germanic populations, especially in Scandinavia. The Nazi racial theory was far more complex than simply Aryans vs. Semites.
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I used to think Mas was just trying to get a rise out of the left side of the board.
I was wrong. He is certifiable.
I was wrong. He is certifiable.
Wait a minute - are saying Goat failed to understand what you actually said, or that he intentionally made up shit you never said? I can rarely tell anymore.
and guys like @UncleMark fall for it every time
They also rounded up communists and put them into concentration camps. Nazis were not "leftists", just like the Deutsche Democratic Republic wasn't "democratic".
Can you give us some examples of Democrats "controlling thoughts" and "banning books"?
That’s Hilarious. Stalin rounded up his enemies too and many were commies. Even Marx and Engles had their differences. Of course Hitler was a leftist. You can’t name a single governing or economic principle he supported that is the least bit conservative or right leaning.
COVID from A to Z. Just about everything any Democrat said about COVID was an imposition of thought control through fear. Even Biden with his feeble abilities got in on the act.
Hitler’s socialism was ambiguous. So what? One of his greatest economic achievements, the Volkswagen, sprung from a state-owned company he created. Your link conveniently omits that discussion.
In any event, not socialist does not equal conservative.
Right. Nazism clearly is not classical liberalism. If I left that impression I didn’t intend to.
What did say is that Nazism and today’s Democrats and modern day “progressIves” are pretty close and getting closer.
Been reading some Mo Brooks, I see.
BTW, I called you "insufferable" the other day. I meant it as a light-hearted jab, and I did not really mean it.
I apologize. You are often very sufferable, and interesting...and I do learn much from reading your posts.
Thanks for that, but no need to apologize. 52 years of dealing with cantankerous lawyers, some of whom were partners, makes for well developed coping skills.
Or most people just agreed that precautions were necessary and the Democrats weren't saying stupid stuff.
Some of that is true. There was also much unknown which contributed to the fear factor. But even once we knew about the risk to kids, and outside transmission, some were scaring people into needless concern and outside mask wearing.
He sounded pretty absurd with his take on the Derek Chauvin trial before it began. Like Mas-sa-suta level absurd.
And he sounded absurder as the trial progressed. IJS.
Most people were looking to the CDC, even during the Trump Administration.
Just not seeing Democratic mind-control there.
IIRC you are a lawyer. I would have enjoyed a discussion with you about my take on the trial in real time. You chose not to do that. Coming in months later with vacuous claims of absurdity is really weak sauce.
Nope, not a lawyer. And I don't believe we've interacted here (or anywhere else).
Your recall is really weak sauce.
“The first concentration camps were established in March 1933. Jews and others deemed undesirable were imprisoned, and liberals, socialists, and communists were killed, imprisoned, or exiled.”
The role of the conservative elite in the Nazi rise to power – The Holocaust Explained: Designed for schools
www.theholocaustexplained.org
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