And next you can pass Women can’t dress like men and wear jeans or pants out in public. Slippery slope and all.
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Oh the irony. You do realize this discussion on drag queen story hour is on the same slope as gay marriage don’t you? Just slightly further down the slope from Obergefell.
I’m 2015 this discussion would have been ridiculous on its face.
Here’s a why…. Why don’t you trust parents to make a decision as to whether to take their kids to a drag show?
Of course it is. Deviant sexual behavior is the issue. LGBTQ for the brainwashed. They’re all manifestation of the same movement.
I'd want the library to inform me as a parent whenever someone is going to come read in any outfit representing a lifestyle/theology/political belief.
That way I could rearrange my schedule when the nudists read.😆
That way I could rearrange my schedule when the nudists read.😆
The message is that cross dressers are just normal humans who can do normal things.
But you don’t get to decide for society what is deviant. Sorry.
I’m not deciding anything, LGBTQ is deviant. The word has a definition.
To a point.
Would I let a cross-dressing friend (if I had one) be my fourth in a scramble? Probably.
Would I let the same dude watch my kid for a week while I went to Scotland to play golf? No ****ing way.
But they’re not normal. Nothing normal about it. And trying to normalize it is the problem.
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Zeke,
You bring up an interesting point re masculinity and threats. I don’t know if that’s driving people who object, but it might. It might be part of why my initial reaction to this has been “weird.”
I don’t see masculinity as a moral issue. But it is, certainly, something that feels under attack in the West. If people feel this is a part of that, maybe it’s worth exploring? Maybe it’s the seed of a legitimate concern?
There is no truth. There is no common sense. Why in the world would anyone want drag queens reading to their kids? Why do people think it's fine for men to be competing against women in sports? The degradation of our society is moving at light speed. It seems like you are all for that?
Why is it a problem? A lot of people think being an avid basketball fan is not normal. I don’t care and I don’t think it is a problem.
I think the degradation of our society is a lot different than yours for example. I think guns blowing up our kids in classrooms is a much bigger problem than drag shows. I wish Republicans would put as much energy into solving that problem . Are you all for that?
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anon_6hv78pr714xta
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It’s an interesting critique. I believe it could be leveled at classical liberalism in general.
Because a man pretending to be a woman isn’t normal and we shouldn’t pretend it is. And your analogy is dumb.
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anon_6hv78pr714xta
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Young devout Muslims make similar complaints. So it’s not necessarily an age thing. Other cultures value traditional roles and the community over the individual much more than ours.
Sad to say you must be both. This topic is hilarious at how much it upsets guys. Wonder why that is.
Guns aren’t blowing up classrooms. People with mental illness are.
Why do you?
So you think we...and by "we" I mean people that actually have kids...
should consider 30-something year old losers, that dress like chicks from some anime nightmare, coming to read stories to our kids, and innocuous and "normal" as some kid from the IU ticket office coming to school to tell kids about the Junior Hoosier Club?
GTFOH.
Because it involves kids. I'm not surprised you don't understand that. You seem to be part of the problem.
Laws can be changed so "Should nudists be invited in to read to children?" if not against the law? Why are there nudist laws to begin with?
Why do people try to avoid the truth? And why are you happy it was said?
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anon_6hv78pr714xta
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It would be better to delineate between drag shows (that are often sexual in nature) and drag Queen’s reading hour.
I think it was said earlier in this thread. Individual liberty (aka classical liberalism) is nothing without individual responsibility.
Trans are generally horribly irresponsible people. They generally demand empathy from others but have no empathy for them.
THEIR personal journey is the only one that is important.
And it goes both ways...
I certainly respect and admire the anarchist libertarian, that lives in the woods in Southern Indiana, with his armory and homeschooled kids, that hates the government, more than a chick with a dick...
but I don't necessarily want either one of them coming in to read my kid some story in the school library...
it's unnecessary, a unneeded distraction, and just weird.
I certainly respect and admire the anarchist libertarian, that lives in the woods in Southern Indiana, with his armory and homeschooled kids, that hates the government, more than a chick with a dick...
but I don't necessarily want either one of them coming in to read my kid some story in the school library...
it's unnecessary, a unneeded distraction, and just weird.
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anon_6hv78pr714xta
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Are trans=drag queens? I don’t know. In the video, one of the drag readers says he is a cis male.
One of the unsaid issues in this thread: some drag queens are sexually titillated by dressing as a woman and being seen. It complicates things.
I'm sure some kids from the IU ticket office are into stuff that would make you cringe.
I bet you're into some stuff that would make other people cringe.
Why wouldn't you let a drag queen or otherwise trans person watch your kids? Because they make you uncomfortable or because you're afraid your kid will be abused? If the latter, why do you think they're more likely to abuse your kid than say a church leader, scout leader, or sports coach?
I 100% get that cross-dressing makes people uncomfortable. I have that initial reaction too. But then I have to challenge myself as to why and it's honestly just because it's unfamiliar to me. Just like it was the first time I met an out gay person. Now some of my best friend's are gay. NOT being weirded out by something and judging a book by its cover, so to speak, takes challenging your comfort zone and realizing that someone being different and weird based on your experience doesn't make them a bad or dangerous person.
Most parents are opposed to drag queens reading to kids, Zeke.
Yours is the minority opinion here.
I think it’s more likely you’ve been brainwashed.
There’s that “old man” thing again. I think you have daddy issues.
And those parents can all CHOOSE not to send their kids to the library to participate in that reading program. Pretty simple, huh? Let the parents decide who ought to read to their kids.
Bahavior matters. I wouldn’t let a dude who is open carrying watch my kids either. Some people have loose screws that show up in how they behave. They wouldn’t watch my kids either.
People avoid the truth because they are uncomfortable with the implications of it, either externally or internally. But I think we should be honest about our feelings and intentions if we are going to have a discussion about this.
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