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Would it make a difference if he wore a smart blouse and knee length skirt with some pumps?

Also, I have no idea what any of that means other than it clearly isn't sexual.
Should nudists be invited in to read to children?

If not, why not? It’s all natural. No artifice involved.
 
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Wait... the book readings were in public libraries, volunteer programs that parents signed up for their kids to attend? And some here are pretending that such an event is equivalent to an event being forced upon everyone in a non-volunteer school-based setting?
 
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The Trans ideology manifests from the progressive belief that someone’s subjective sense of self identity is the most important thing in life.

It perfectly encapsulates their belief that the source of happiness is self gratification and not community, family, your relationships to others, etc. It’s the same reason they tell women that their career need not take a back seat to a potential husband and family.

“How dare you not validate ME?”

Of course the Women and Trans are miserable. They’ve been told to ignore biological realities and ignore the biological imperative of community in favor of being their “truest self”.
 
Should nudists be invited in to read to children?

If not, why not? It’s all natural. No artifice involved.
As you're likely well aware, making a decision such as this without pictures is a no go.

So, pics or GTFO sir. Thanks in advance.
 
Or maybe, like most people who take time out of their schedule to read to children, they feel like they are doing something good. So yes, I guess your point is true. Most people feel better about themselves when they help others.
You mean drag queens are people? That’s so weird.
 
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The Trans ideology manifests from the progressive belief that someone’s subjective sense of self identity is the most important thing in life.

It perfectly encapsulates their belief that the source of happiness is self gratification and not community, family, your relationships to others, etc. It’s the same reason they tell women that their career need not take a back seat to a potential husband and family.

“How dare you not validate ME?”

Of course the Women and Trans are miserable. They’ve been told to ignore biological realities and ignore the biological imperative of community in favor of being their “truest self”.
And, don’t even get me started on letting ‘‘em vote, amirite?
 
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You saying that the only thing going on is reading. I am saying there are obvious context clues. How about Jesus story hour where everyone arrives with a religious shirt like "Jesus Saves" or dressed like a priest or nun? Nonverbal communication exists.

Having a bunch of men show up in dresses and make up is conveying a message. "This is normal little 4 year olds." No, it isn't. We have to get little kids and brainwash them into thinking this is normal because adults know it isn't. All of you people defending this now thought it was weird shit 5 years ago but now it is the next cool thing. The UN just released a statement on minors and sex. You will be on that train in another 5 to 10 as well.
I’m not sure it’ll take 10 years. There are already people clamoring to get rid of the word “pedophile” because it’s offensive.

I mean, they can’t help it. They were born that way, right?

And we have people on this very board who think kids as young as 2-3 can communicate that they’re trans.

What if they say they wanna have sex? Who are we to judge?

I don’t think it’s a stretch at all.
 
There are already people clamoring to get rid of the word “pedophile” because it’s offensive.
LINK?

We have a Nazi sympathizer / Holocaust denier on this very forum, but I am not going to pretend that such views are typical in any way, or representative of a movement.
 
Wait... the book readings were in public libraries, volunteer programs that parents signed up for their kids to attend? And some here are pretending that such an event is equivalent to an event being forced upon everyone in a non-volunteer school-based setting?
As the video I posted yesterday pointed out when comparing the US to Rome, eventually when pushing cultural mores so far, so fast you end up disrupting the original pact. It can be disrupted so much so that the original pact becomes rejected entirely. (In the case of Rome, the Republic fell and was replaced by Caesar).

I think you would find a not insignificant minority of the country that is already of the mind that the whole personal freedom idea was supposed to be coupled with personal responsibility. The latter has been removed or is selectively enforced and therefore the former can be as well.

If you think of a yo-yo moving up and down to reach equilibrium, it usually snaps back with a speed that is dependent upon the speed in which it was originally dropped. The last 10 years were an extremely fast drop, I expect there to be an equally extreme retraction and it is just now that we are at the point where the yo-yo is spinning at the bottom of its decline before it snaps back toward the hand.
 
The Trans ideology manifests from the progressive belief that someone’s subjective sense of self identity is the most important thing in life.

It perfectly encapsulates their belief that the source of happiness is self gratification and not community, family, your relationships to others, etc. It’s the same reason they tell women that their career need not take a back seat to a potential husband and family.

“How dare you not validate ME?”

Of course the Women and Trans are miserable. They’ve been told to ignore biological realities and ignore the biological imperative of community in favor of being their “truest self”.
You and Crazy both are great at old men screaming at clouds. What’s scary is you aren’t old. What’s comforting is most people your age are much much aware of reality and the changing world.
 
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I’m not sure it’ll take 10 years. There are already people clamoring to get rid of the word “pedophile” because it’s offensive.

I mean, they can’t help it. They were born that way, right?

And we have people on this very board who think kids as young as 2-3 can communicate that they’re trans.

What if they say they wanna have sex? Who are we to judge?

I don’t think it’s a stretch at all.
It is a stretch and it’s idiotic and it has nothing to do with drag queens.
 
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No but that’s a silly analogy
Why? 10 years ago saying that people are going to be arguing to take kids to drag shows is a great idea in response to the gay marriage debate would have been deemed silly by you too. Yet here we are.

Why is it silly. Spell it out.
 
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https://slate.com/news-and-politics...ts-talk-about-republicans-and-sex-crimes.html. I also find it so interesting that Republicans are the ones so obsessed with grooming, pedophiles, trans, corrupting our children. Yet invariably, when you see a case of a public figure , lo and behold more often than not, it’s a Republican. Besides the facts that the majority back an admitted sexual abuser. But oh no! Drag queens!! The irony is thick.
 
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It is a stretch and it’s idiotic and it has nothing to do with drag queens.
Why? Show your work. Nudists are just expressing their true selves no? There is nothing more natural than the naked human body. That is how we come into the world. It is only sexual if you make it so. Nudity is much more common in Sweden.


So why is it different?
 
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Why? 10 years ago saying that people are going to be arguing to take kids to drag shows is a great idea in response to the gay marriage debate would have been deemed silly by you too. Yet here we are.

Why is it silly. Spell it out.
Because they aren’t comparable at all. Not on the least. Republicans are passing laws to let children work on factory lines. I’d say that’s much more harmful and much more likely to lead to sex with children. And no I wouldn’t have said that was silly 10 years ago. Kids were going to drag shows 10 years ago too probably.Didn’t care then, don’t care now. If that’s what the parent chooses.
 
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https://slate.com/news-and-politics...ts-talk-about-republicans-and-sex-crimes.html. I also find it so interesting that Republicans are the ones so obsessed with grooming, pedophiles, trans, corrupting our children. Yet invariably, when you see a case of a public figure , lo and behold more often than not, it’s a Republican. Besides the facts that the majority back an admitted sexual abuser. But oh no! Drag queens!! The irony is thick.
Look...over there.

Not interested in your squirrel.
 
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Why? Show your work. Nudists are just expressing their true selves no? There is nothing more natural than the naked human body. That is how we come into the world. It is only sexual if you make it so. Nudity is much more common in Sweden.


So why is it different?
Because.
 
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Why? Show your work. Nudists are just expressing their true selves no? There is nothing more natural than the naked human body. That is how we come into the world. It is only sexual if you make it so. Nudity is much more common in Sweden.


So why is it different?
NB;DR
 
Well I think both you and Aloha are wrong. Research says reading to kids is one of the best ways to help with literacy.
Reading to them is a great thing. What do you think are the additional benefits having the drag queens do the reading? Does that make the kids more likely to concentrate on the reading and the story? Does it make the more likely to become literate? You thing there are added benefits, what are they?
 
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So why is it different?
We have indecency laws that prohibit public nudity. Yes, there are some nude beach areas. There's a bit of irony in that some of them are in FL and the FL governor is not concerned in the least about them, yet gets riled up about Bud Light commercials.
 
Reading to them is a great thing. What do you think are the additional benefits having the drag queens do the reading? Does that make the kids more likely to concentrate on the reading and the story? Does it make the more likely to become literate? You thing there are added benefits, what are they?
You are always great at adding things I did not say. I don’t care if it’s you, me, or drag queens reading. Just read.
 
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Why? Show your work. Nudists are just expressing their true selves no? There is nothing more natural than the naked human body. That is how we come into the world. It is only sexual if you make it so. Nudity is much more common in Sweden.


So why is it different?

<Raises hand>
Because Swedish women are hawt?
 
This is the third active thread on the board in the past week about trans and drag shows. I’ll say one thing for the GOP. They get their message out well. Fox tells you trans and drag shows are the biggest threat to humanity and now you can’t talk about anything else. It’s actually pretty humorous how threatened you all are.
 
Because they aren’t comparable at all. Not on the least. Republicans are passing laws to let children work on factory lines. I’d say that’s much more harmful and much more likely to lead to sex with children. And no I wouldn’t have said that was silly 10 years ago. Kids were going to drag shows 10 years ago too probably.Didn’t care then, don’t care now. If that’s what the parent chooses.
You still did not answer how they are not comparable.

I will do it for you. You believe that nudity has sexual connotations and you don't believe the men who dress like female prostitutes do. I bet that if the proper people told you that your view on the nudity is wrong, you would switch up your opinion on that too. The Sweden argument would be the foot in the door.

And dismiss it all you want, many of you can, but the slippery slope argument is currently undefeated.
 
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Reading to them is a great thing. What do you think are the additional benefits having the drag queens do the reading? Does that make the kids more likely to concentrate on the reading and the story? Does it make the more likely to become literate? You thing there are added benefits, what are they?
My wife wears jeans and a t shirt more than she is in a dress and make up. If it is about the reading, why the need to "dress up".

They aren't fooling anyone.
 
We have indecency laws that prohibit public nudity. Yes, there are some nude beach areas. There's a bit of irony in that some of them are in FL and the FL governor is not concerned in the least about them, yet gets riled up about Bud Light commercials.
So if we pass indecency laws against men dressing like women in public except for restricted areas that bar minors then that should decide morality on that issue as well?
 
Nah, bro. Being open minded makes me open minded.

One of my biggest complaints with the rise of the use of the term “grooming” is that it undermines what grooming actually is. I’ve done some very small amount of work in sex crimes prosecution and grooming has a very specific definition in that world. I think the more apt term anti-drag queen story hour folks would be “desensitizing.” Which I think is probably more accurate anyway absent any allegations of drag queens actually abusing kids.

I bring this up today because of allegations out of Texas of a state legislator getting an under 21 intern drunk and, at another time, showing her something to apparently test her willingness to report him to authorities. He later is accused of having sex with her. THAT is textbook grooming. And, for the record, he’s NOT in the LGBTQ community.

C'mon man, words don't have meaning anymore. There is no "truth". Just ask the gubment what a recession is, or woman, fetus, domestic terrorist, illegal alien, etc. When libs lose an argument, they just change the dictionary.

And that's not why you brought this up. Your reasons are obvious.
 
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Well I think both you and Aloha are wrong. Research says reading to kids is one of the best ways to help with literacy.
Well I agree with that and we read to our grandkids but we do in a way where we aren't trying to poison their minds. Our granddaughter who is three can repeat word for word a lot of her books because they've been read to her so many times and she'll sit and turn the pages and repeat the words that are on them.
 
You still did not answer how they are not comparable.

I will do it for you. You believe that nudity has sexual connotations and you don't believe the men who dress like female prostitutes do. I bet that if the proper people told you that your view on the nudity is wrong, you would switch up your opinion on that too. The Sweden argument would be the foot in the door.

And dismiss it all you want, many of you can, but the slippery slope argument is currently undefeated.
The slippery slope argument is defeated every day. Dire predictions that never come true. Letting gays get married was going to ruin the institution of marriage. As OS already pointed out, there are nudity laws. Silliness
 
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Well I agree with that and we read to our grandkids but we do in a way where we aren't trying to poison their minds. Our granddaughter who is three can repeat word for word a lot of her books because they've been read to her so many times and she'll sit and turn the pages and repeat the words that are on them.
Who is trying to “poison her mind”?
 
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