Des Moines Register: Biden and Sanders...and everyone else
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Yep. Trump has no chance against Biden. Sanders? Maybe not either, but that depends on how far left Sanders is willing to go in a general.
Surprised Amy was that low. She isn't terribly outspoken and thus, less well-known nationally compared to other names, but Iowa is so close to the TC.
I don't know much about the Des Moines Register, but their polls are supposedly some of the best, so I assume they have their methodology down to a science when it comes to trying to capture the caucus-going population. That said, you've got two big constitutencies in the caucuses: Democrat loyalists and activists. So there's your Biden and Sanders, and Klobuchar simply gets crowded out, not because she's unknown or unpopular, but because there's just not enough room.
Is there evidence that this type of gap can be overcome? Has to be a momentum killer for many of those outside the top two
I don't know. I feel like you don't need to be top two in Iowa to be serious, though. If Biden and Sanders remain the two front-runners, whoever ends up in third will have a strong position. Obviously, NH won't mean much, but then you go South, and California is early now, too. Imagine if Harris finishes third in Iowa? That could basically be first place, from her point of view.
The actual voting is a year away. Current polls mostly reflect name ID. I don't think we have any idea who will win the Iowa caucuses in February 2020.
Yes, but early polls have a considerable impact on momentum and fundraising, no? If you get behind early, you have virtually little chance I would imagine.
I'd imagine they mostly are old guys (and gals) in Iowa, so it makes sense. I can count on one hand the number of people that have moved from Chicago or Minneapolis to Iowa, but there are hundreds going the other direction.
Have a 23 year old grand niece from Chicago who went to the University of Iowa and now works for 3M in Minneapolis.
Guess she pretty much proves your point.
Seems the GOP operators are most worried about Beto:
GOP meddles in Democratic nomination with takedown of O'Rourke
The Club for Growth sees the ex-Texas congressman as a serious threat to Donald Trump, and they're treating him accordingly.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/10/beto-orourke-2020-attack-1214805
GOP meddles in Democratic nomination with takedown of O'Rourke
The Club for Growth sees the ex-Texas congressman as a serious threat to Donald Trump, and they're treating him accordingly.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/10/beto-orourke-2020-attack-1214805
I watched it last night, but someone put a video of 3/4ths of it up on Youtube.
Buttigieg was really, really good in this format.
About the only thing you could criticize him for is he doesn't have all his platform details fully sketched out yet.
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He was phenomenal! Would totally be my choice...except I know he has no shot. But would love to see him in the race and get to the debates and at least get a lot of national name recognition. Definitely think he will be a future super star.
Could be a great VP candidate. When Biden became BO’s running mate, it was clear to me after watching him in person that his end game was to be #2.
The dems are pretty loaded this time around. There’s a lot of good options/combinations.
I didn't see this, but I saw and heard him several times a few weeks back during his "book tour". He's quite impressive. He needs to figure out how to get some experience on a larger stage before he can be considered a viable candidate, though. He sure as hell isn't going to make the House or the Senate or the Governor's mansion from Indiana, though, so he's got a tough row to hoe.
He's young enough to where he can get a cabinet position and either Indiana becomes more winnable after he's done or "My husband and I fell in love with Maryland/Virginia" and runs in one of those states for Governor/Senator in 2024/2028.
Cap is right. That was one of the funny exchanges on the town hall last night.
OK, boot-edge-edge it is. That’s a weird name. I did hear him talk by chance a few minutes on the radio and he’s articulate for sure.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/opinions/2019/03/11/get-ready-buttigieg/
Good article with some of his positions from last night.
Good article with some of his positions from last night.
https://wsbt.com/news/local/donations-pour-in-for-buttigieg-following-cnn-town-hall
$600k and 22,000 donors in the 24 hours after the CNN Town Hall. Buttigieg needs 65k individual donors to get in the first debates.
$600k and 22,000 donors in the 24 hours after the CNN Town Hall. Buttigieg needs 65k individual donors to get in the first debates.
Yes. This is what I've heard him say himself.I heard him say it like boot-uh-judge. Or call him Pete.
Quayle drive by.
And yes, Buttigieg is very likable. A bit of humor while slipping the dagger between the ribs, rhetorically is most enjoyable
Interesting how the Dems want to replace an old, white, racist creep with an old, white, racist creep.
With a name like boot-edge-edge, he better be impressive.
Mayor Pete impressed this guy:
Rush Limbaugh:
RUSH: I watched CNN. They had two hours of town halls, I guess, with presidential candidates. One of them was Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii, and the other one was this mayor of South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg. Keep a sharp eye out for Mayor Pete. Keep an eye on this guy. He is gonna make mincemeat of all the rest of these people.
When his comes to face these people in debate, if he gets that far, keep an eye on Mayor Pete of South Bend. It’s all I’m gonna say. This guy was articulate for what he believes. He was personable. He had an answer for everything. There was no, “And, y’know, I… Like, uhhhh,” and there was no radicalism. Some things that he believes about Trump are typically crazy, but keep an eye out for Mayor Pete. He’s 37. Keep an eye find out for Mayor Pete.
A ringing endorsement or the kiss of death? Either way, I'll "keep an eye out" for Mayor Pete.
When his comes to face these people in debate, if he gets that far, keep an eye on Mayor Pete of South Bend. It’s all I’m gonna say. This guy was articulate for what he believes. He was personable. He had an answer for everything. There was no, “And, y’know, I… Like, uhhhh,” and there was no radicalism. Some things that he believes about Trump are typically crazy, but keep an eye out for Mayor Pete. He’s 37. Keep an eye find out for Mayor Pete.
Think I said that. By current, I meant replace Trump with Biden, both old, white, racist creeps.
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