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Isn't this the Catch-22. If he makes a small attack, he is weak. If he makes a big attack, he is weak but worried about polling. There is no response he can do that some would credit him for.
For sure. Another symptom of the decay of politics that I relate to media
 
Isn't this the Catch-22. If he makes a small attack, he is weak. If he makes a big attack, he is weak but worried about polling. There is no response he can do that some would credit him for.
Speaking for myself, if he sinks that spy ship and it's escort that is providing Intel to the Houthis as is being reported may happen, I will be satisfied with the initial response.
 
For sure. Another symptom of the decay of politics that I relate to media

I think we all fall victim to this, myself included, we have to change other's minds. Buzz used to make a big deal that this place wasn't for that. In reality, no one is going to vote for Biden or Trump because of anything I post, CO posts, you post, Jesus Christ Himself comes here and posts. It isn't going to happen. The hard part is remembering that. But we get in modes we treat this as a war to be won, it ain't.
 
I have a confession to make: I’ve never seen that movie.

But based on that clip, I will be watching it this week. That is brilliant.
It is typical for them. You just got the main message of the movie in that clip but there is a bunch of over the top nonsense humor to get you to that point. If you like their "South Park" type of humor you will probably enjoy it.

(Full disclosure, when the movie came out there is a particular scene in it that had myself and my friends cracking up in the theater. When they released the unrated version we had to watch again to see what else they could have possibly added that had to be cut.)
 
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I think we all fall victim to this, myself included, we have to change other's minds. Buzz used to make a big deal that this place wasn't for that. In reality, no one is going to vote for Biden or Trump because of anything I post, CO posts, you post, Jesus Christ Himself comes here and posts. It isn't going to happen. The hard part is remembering that. But we get in modes we treat this as a war to be won, it ain't.
and i'll use this as another segue to ATTACK BIDEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! after trump we all suffered from trump fatigue. just the combative, divisiveness of him was a lot and many i think supported biden with the hope, actually expectation, that he was going ot be uncle joe and a calming bridge to the next president. instead, for us conservatives, he was just hte other side of the coin from trump in embracing the progressives who are every bit as combative and judgmental and shaming and in your face as trumpers, as well as constantly calling out "maga republicans" and his hitler looking background speech blah blah blah. so i have little hope with a biden/trump 2024 election we will see any improvement. perhaps haley was our only hope in that respect, but i don't know. things aren't going to get better any time soon unfortunately
 
There is no tactical purpose for the Biden White House to say anything about retaliation. The only reason for the announcement is politics and polling. The Biden approach to everything is messaging and polling data. There is little to no important substance.

Upon further review, edit.

Says the people that were blasting Biden the second after it happened because he didn't respond fast enough.

Just admit it, he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Doesn't really matter what he does, you and others will bitch and moan about how he's doing it wrong.
 
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Says the people that were blasting Biden the second after it happened because he didn't respond fast enough.

Just admit it, he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Doesn't really matter what he does, you and others with bitch and moan about how he's doing it wrong.
3 years of piss poor governance erodes good will and getting the benefit of the doubt. Just reality
 
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and i'll use this as another segue to ATTACK BIDEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! after trump we all suffered from trump fatigue. just the combative, divisiveness of him was a lot and many i think supported biden with the hope, actually expectation, that he was going ot be uncle joe and a calming bridge to the next president. instead, for us conservatives, he was just hte other side of the coin from trump in embracing the progressives who are every bit as combative and judgmental and shaming and in your face as trumpers, as well as constantly calling out "maga republicans" and his hitler looking background speech blah blah blah. so i have little hope with a biden/trump 2024 election we will see any improvement. perhaps haley was our only hope in that respect, but i don't know. things aren't going to get better any time soon unfortunately

The fact you think Biden has been anywhere near as divisive as Trump says a lot

Where are Biden's twitter rants? Where is he calling people names like a juvenile or saying people should be thrown in jail for being on his bad side?

Biden is divisive to you and other conservatives simply by being a democrat.
 
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Republican fantasyland hardly qualifies as reality.
housing prices
gas prices
food prices
insurance prices
medication prices
spike in crime
defund poilice
bail project
border disaster
covid draconian bs
executive orders
terrible administration selection
absurd s.ct. selection
global affairs gone to shit

there isn't a single area biden and his handlers have demonstrated an ounce of competence. No homework and pizza parties president
 
Isn't this the Catch-22. If he makes a small attack, he is weak. If he makes a big attack, he is weak but worried about polling. There is no response he can do that some would credit him for.
I agree that no matter what Biden does he will be criticized. Two reasons, first his hapless ME and Iranian policy is a substantial cause of the turmoil and bloodshed, second, he is obsessed with not escalating.

Biden is receiving pressure and heckling from the left to clamp down on Israel and stopping the claimed Israeli genocide. The Iranians see this and are taking advantage. Biden does not respond with strength and resolve. Blinken and Austin compound the problem with their public comments.

Biden keeps talking about backing Ukraine for “as long as it takes.” His “Don’t” policy regarding Iran isn’t working. Iran “did” over 160 times and Biden dawdles.
 
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Eh, I don’t think so. Those militiamen knew they’d be public enemy number 1 as soon as they attacked. They’re probably confused as to why they’re still alive this many days later.
Yeah I probably jumped the gun. I was wrong to post that when I did.

I should’ve showed some restraint.

Now….it’s 2 hours past time to start drinking so…
 
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Attacking Biden for publicly saying we would retaliate isn't the natural result of losing patience with an incompetent administration. It's pure partisan dipshittery, nothing more.

I was referring to the fact that he's in a supposed "no win" scenario. He's already been blamed by the right for being soft and allowing the ME to escalate into the shit show it is. Continued warnings didn't do anything to deter countless drone strikes and shipping attacks.

If he actually does something aggressive militarily to respond, the left will call him out and he'll lose the support he needs desperately in November.
 
I was referring to the fact that he's in a supposed "no win" scenario. He's already been blamed by the right for being soft and allowing the ME to escalate into the shit show it is. Continued warnings didn't do anything to deter countless drone strikes and shipping attacks.

If he actually does something aggressive militarily to respond, the left will call him out and he'll lose the support he needs desperately in November.
That's all fine and good, but it's not what people were taking issue with.
 
Says the people that were blasting Biden the second after it happened because he didn't respond fast enough.

Just admit it, he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Doesn't really matter what he does, you and others will bitch and moan about how he's doing it wrong.
I don’t think I blasted Biden the second after it happened, but if I did, I would have said Biden’s incompetence led them to believe they could launch yet another drone strike directly against us without a serious response from us.

After enduring 160+ similar attacks Biden did nothing important. Biden has an opportunity here to allow me to say he finally did a smart thing. We’ll see what happens.
 
That was literally Marv's point in his post (catch 22). Are you keeping up?
There is a difference. On the one hand is the concern that Biden can't please everyone, so someone is bound to be upset. Fine. But on the other is the concern that certain people are determined to criticize him no matter what. Ultimately, the criticism is not rooted in whether or not Biden's actions deserve critique; it is rooted only in the fact that he is Biden. That is what caused Marv to finally throw up his hands in despair.
 
There is a difference. On the one hand is the concern that Biden can't please everyone, so someone is bound to be upset. Fine. But on the other is the concern that certain people are determined to criticize him no matter what. Ultimately, the criticism is not rooted in whether or not Biden's actions deserve critique; it is rooted only in the fact that he is Biden. That is what caused Marv to finally throw up his hands in despair.
people have lost confidence in him. That’s the way it goes
 
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There is a difference. On the one hand is the concern that Biden can't please everyone, so someone is bound to be upset. Fine. But on the other is the concern that certain people are determined to criticize him no matter what. Ultimately, the criticism is not rooted in whether or not Biden's actions deserve critique; it is rooted only in the fact that he is Biden. That is what caused Marv to finally throw up his hands in despair.

Don't you think, if he was capable of doing so, if Biden acted more authoritatively from the beginning, things would be different? He was slow to respond post October 7th. And ever since, he's been playing from behind vs. taking control.
 
Don't you think, if he was capable of doing so, if Biden acted more authoritatively from the beginning, things would be different? He was slow to respond post October 7th. And ever since, he's been playing from behind vs. taking control.
He’s too old to be president. He’s mentally in decline. So who knows who is actually making decisions. And honestly it’s not okay for him to run again. Because who are voters actually electing to call the shots and make decisions. Proxy shit isn’t okay

And for the yabbut fools trump is too old too. How he has handled his court shit demonstrates as much
 
He’s too old to be president. He’s mentally in decline. So who knows who is actually making decisions. And honestly it’s not okay for him to run again. Because who are voters actually electing to call the shots and make decisions. Proxy shit isn’t okay

And for the yabbut fools trump is too old too. How he has handled his court shit demonstrates as much

Someone needs to park them both in a senior center and force them to live out their days playing Bridge and Bingo.
 
Don't you think, if he was capable of doing so, if Biden acted more authoritatively from the beginning, things would be different? He was slow to respond post October 7th. And ever since, he's been playing from behind vs. taking control.
Maybe. So what? The existence of valid complaints does nothing to lessen the stupidity of the invalid ones.
 
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