At this point, is it possible Iran wants us to hit back hard? Maybe they think that if we respond strongly ("disproportionately"), it will inflame the rest of the Arab world against us?
3 Americans soldiers killed and 25 wounded in Jordan
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I largely agree that is a problem. At the same time, I can't completely rule out his military experience. It is highly unlikely. He shouldn't say anything. He and that other guy should both learn that.
Thanks for the info. I was thinking that whatever carcinogens that came from the burn pits (if any), would be burned and carried by the air.
That’s surely true but I assure you he was where the carrying was thinnest. The joes that had to tend to the burn pits and live near them are the deal victims.
Don’t mistake Arabs for Persians. Most Arabs can’t stand Iran. Pretty large cultural difference.
I know that. But Iran is funding lots of Arabs
Houthi’s are not typical Arabs. No way the majority of Arabs go against the US over Iranian backed Arabs.
Palestinians are also Arab.
I’m not saying what Iran might be thinking is right, I’m wondering what they think they are accomplishing.
Well they are Arab they don’t have backing from the Arab league. They don’t want them. Matter of fact the Arab league is starting to work with Israel. Iran wants control of the shipping lanes. They want the west out of there. The US is starting to care less and less about globalization. Matter of fact Covid taught us global supply chains are very vulnerable. With the population decline in China it’s signaling a retraction of the US navy away from protecting assets we once cared about. Why not foster closer supply and raw materials. At some point it’s not our fight.
Yes and no. They are like the rest of that area. Melting pot of different ethnic groups. You can’t really compare them with say Saudi Arabian Arabs. (They really don’t like each other)It just shows you how much of a mess the different cultures, Muslim factions are.
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Hezbollah are Shia Muslims like Iran. On the other hand, Hamas are Sunni Muslims unlike Iran. Iran supports both because they hate Israel and the Jews (and the US, of course).
Yeah that’s not it. You’re talking about Sunni v Shia. That’s not Arabs v non-Arabs.
Sorry. I don’t buy it. I really don’t. We know where these guys sleep. We can smoke them whenever we want.
Isn't the prime goal of Iran to drive the U.S. out of the entire region ? Furthermore Iran isn't alone in this desire.
Maybe. But I think a higher Iranian priority is to eliminate Israel as a state. That’s what they have announced.
Don’t agree. We lack resolve. Our present leadership won’t muster the resolve we must have to be an effective power and smoke people.
First Blinken, Biden and Austin are obsessed with no escalation. We will always be a reactionary force with this leadership which means we can’t bend the trajectory.
Second, Austin said often a few days ago in his presser that our aim was to “diminish their capabilities“ to attack. At no time did he mention deterrence.
I can’t even call our strategy rope-a-dope. We have no element of aggression.
Iran's primary goal is to be the most important regional power. Getting the US out of the region is part of that, as is curtailing Saudi influence whenever possible.
They’ll never succeed. There is no business in Iran. No international investment. They’re a dead nation.
I was going to say it doesn't have to be that way, that there was nothing about the Revolution that required them and us to set up as adversaries. But the truth is, we've since gotten firmly into bed with the Saudis, and we were already in bed with the Israelis, and there are probably no two bigger enemies of Iran than those.
Looks like we took out an Iranian commander in Iraq.
Iraq has issued a warning to the United States in response to an airstrike late Wednesday in Baghdad that killed a senior commander with the pro-Iran Kataib Hezbollah militia.
Iraq's Joint Operation Command called the strike a "new aggression by the United States, adding that the move acted to "undermine all understandings" between Iraq and the US, in a statement posted by spokesperson Tahseen Al Khafaji on X.
The spokesperson also reiterated what the country said after the first series of US strikes in Iraq last Friday in retaliation for the killing of three US soldiers in Jordan, which was to call the strikes a "violation of Iraqi sovereignty."
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Iraq has issued a warning to the United States in response to an airstrike late Wednesday in Baghdad that killed a senior commander with the pro-Iran Kataib Hezbollah militia.
Iraq's Joint Operation Command called the strike a "new aggression by the United States, adding that the move acted to "undermine all understandings" between Iraq and the US, in a statement posted by spokesperson Tahseen Al Khafaji on X.
The spokesperson also reiterated what the country said after the first series of US strikes in Iraq last Friday in retaliation for the killing of three US soldiers in Jordan, which was to call the strikes a "violation of Iraqi sovereignty."
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