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Another election denier wins an important primary

Why? You wouldn't believe it anyway.

Danc, if you show me evidence, I will believe. Not Rudy evidence. Real evidence.

Lindell has been promising evidence for over a year now, just show me.
 
Danc, if you show me evidence, I will believe. Not Rudy evidence. Real evidence.

Lindell has been promising evidence for over a year now, just show me.
Anything presented you will downplay or deny.

I hope you don't expect 10,000 people to come out and say, "Yeah, I voted illegally". Sometimes you have to acknowledge statistics, probability, "coincidences" that are just not likely.
 
Anything presented you will downplay or deny....

That's a cop out because you have shit.

In fact, that's actually the strategy of you and your fellow conservatives given the whole "it is fake news unless it comes from a conservative news source" line of thinking that master trump has engrained in his sheep. First step in brainwashing people, make them believe that truth is only what you say it is.
 
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Anything presented you will downplay or deny.

I hope you don't expect 10,000 people to come out and say, "Yeah, I voted illegally". Sometimes you have to acknowledge statistics, probability, "coincidences" that are just not likely.

Well, show me what you got. Real evidence that would be admissible in court.
Then we can decide if I downplay or deny.
If it's proven that the election was stolen I will hold the bible during Trump's reinstatement.

Sometime you have to acknowledge some Q types are spouting nonsense.
 
Anything presented you will downplay or deny.

I hope you don't expect 10,000 people to come out and say, "Yeah, I voted illegally". Sometimes you have to acknowledge statistics, probability, "coincidences" that are just not likely.
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Well, show me what you got. Real evidence that would be admissible in court.
Then we can decide if I downplay or deny.
If it's proven that the election was stolen I will hold the bible during Trump's reinstatement.

Sometime you have to acknowledge some Q types are spouting nonsense.
It's not up to me to investigate. It's up to the DOJ, and so far they haven't investigated squat. I'm talking about a real investigation, not some cursory review.

No one is saying Trump is going to be reinstated. But you would think the media would wait more than 2 days after the election to declare it the most fair of all time.
 
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It's not up to me to investigate. It's up to the DOJ, and so far they haven't investigated squat. I'm talking about a real investigation, not some cursory review.

No one is saying Trump is going to be reinstated. But you would think the media would wait more than 2 days after the election to declare it the most fair of all time.
It is going to be very interesting to see how the left reacts after the midterms. If they lose both houses are they going to claim it was the most secure election of all time? My guess is it will be the exact opposite. I am guesssing they will run with voter suppression.
 
It is going to be very interesting to see how the left reacts after the midterms. If they lose both houses are they going to claim it was the most secure election of all time? My guess is it will be the exact opposite. I am guesssing they will run with voter suppression.

eh -- 250ish years on and both parties have claimed voter suppression on a bunch of different occasions. in that quarter-millennium run of successful democracy both sides have claimed foreign interference and voter suppression dozens of times. we even went to the supreme court over hanging chads in FL. there were legit claims, some more gray, others downright silly. google it. it's nutty. but let's not confuse the usual election BS with what was claimed in 2020.

yes, the serious people on both sides will affirm the 2022 elections as being secure from large-scale voter fraud. not sure what the populists will be up to though.
 
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eh -- 250ish years on and both parties have claimed voter suppression on a bunch of different occasions. in that quarter-millennium run of successful democracy both sides have claimed foreign interference and voter suppression dozens of times. we even went to the supreme court over hanging chads in FL. there were legit claims, some more gray, others downright silly. google it. it's nutty. but let's not confuse the usual election BS with what was claimed in 2020.

yes, the serious people on both sides will affirm the 2022 elections as being secure from large-scale voter fraud. not sure what the populists will be up to though.

Hopefully the populists are dumb enough to buy the election fraud story, so much so that they decide to stay home on election day because of it.
 
Anything presented you will downplay or deny.

I hope you don't expect 10,000 people to come out and say, "Yeah, I voted illegally". Sometimes you have to acknowledge statistics, probability, "coincidences" that are just not likely.
So your evidence is that you have no evidence. Do you not really understand why people don't take this seriously?
 
The New Hampshire US Senate seat held by Democrat Maggie Hassan was likely to flip red for a moderate Republican candidate like Chuck Morse, the state senate president. Then Don Bolduc, an ardent Trump supporter who has repeated Trump's Big Lie about a stolen election, won yesterday's primary.

In some key states (Pennsylvania, for example), election deniers have essentially taken over the GOP. If these election denier candidates lose, hopefully the party will finally dump Trump. If many of them win, we are seriously screwed.


Baris had another election denier in the lead!!! Oh boy we are all screwed!!!






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NV Senate (R) Adam Laxalt 46% (+2) (D) Catherine Cortez Masto 44
NV Governor (R) Joe Lombardo 42% (+2) (D) Steve Sisolak 40%
NV Generic Ballot GOP — 45% (+1.3) DEM — 43.7% N=750 LV | 09/18-20 | MoE ±3.4% https://application.marketsight.com/app/ItemView.aspx?SharedFor=public%40bigdatapoll.com&SharedBy=34090&id=feb29c6a-e0eb-41e8-91db-af170183b119
 
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Baris had another election denier in the lead!!! Oh boy we are all screwed!!!




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NV Senate (R) Adam Laxalt 46% (+2) (D) Catherine Cortez Masto 44
NV Governor (R) Joe Lombardo 42% (+2) (D) Steve Sisolak 40%
NV Generic Ballot GOP — 45% (+1.3) DEM — 43.7% N=750 LV | 09/18-20 | MoE ±3.4% https://application.marketsight.com/app/ItemView.aspx?SharedFor=public%40bigdatapoll.com&SharedBy=34090&id=feb29c6a-e0eb-41e8-91db-af170183b119
Hobbs and Kelly going down!

 
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Center street is beyond comical at this point. They are so bad even good old Nate Silver will not give them a grade. It’s funny the Hobbs + 12 I guess was not good enough for them so they polled it again the same time period and got her up 14. So they are 18 points off from the two most recent polls. But there are probably some democrats who actually do believe the center street polls or whatever they are I doubt it’s an actual poll the sample size is a total joke for one. Or if they actually did poll probably only polled the metro area.


Governor, Arizona, 2022

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Sep.15-19
768​
LV
B
Data for Progress
Hobbs​
47%​
51%​
Lake
Lake​
+4
Sep.14-17
1,080​
LV
A-
Trafalgar Group
Hobbs​
46%​
50%​
Lake
Lake​
+4
Sep.8-15
500​
LVFabrizio, Lee & Associates/Impact ResearchAARP
Hobbs​
49%​
48%​
Lake
Hobbs​
+1
Sep.6-9
563​
LVCenter Street PAC
Hobbs​
53%​
39%​
Lake
Hobbs​
+14


 
Center street is beyond comical at this point. They are so bad even good old Nate Silver will not give them a grade. It’s funny the Hobbs + 12 I guess was not good enough for them so they polled it again the same time period and got her up 14. So they are 18 points off from the two most recent polls. But there are probably some democrats who actually do believe the center street polls or whatever they are I doubt it’s an actual poll the sample size is a total joke for one. Or if they actually did poll probably only polled the metro area.


Governor, Arizona, 2022

AVG.
Sep.15-19
768​
LV
B
Data for Progress
Hobbs​
47%​
51%​
Lake
Lake​
+4
Sep.14-17
1,080​
LV
A-
Trafalgar Group
Hobbs​
46%​
50%​
Lake
Lake​
+4
Sep.8-15
500​
LVFabrizio, Lee & Associates/Impact ResearchAARP
Hobbs​
49%​
48%​
Lake
Hobbs​
+1
Sep.6-9
563​
LVCenter Street PAC
Hobbs​
53%​
39%​
Lake
Hobbs​
+14
+19 among Hispanics and +31 among independents in a state that hasn't gone red in over 30 years I believe. Uh oh. I guess the Hispanics feel the Dems aren't providing enough drag shows for their children.

 
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The New Hampshire US Senate seat held by Democrat Maggie Hassan was likely to flip red for a moderate Republican candidate like Chuck Morse, the state senate president. Then Don Bolduc, an ardent Trump supporter who has repeated Trump's Big Lie about a stolen election, won yesterday's primary.

In some key states (Pennsylvania, for example), election deniers have essentially taken over the GOP. If these election denier candidates lose, hopefully the party will finally dump Trump. If many of them win, we are seriously screwed.


Serious question. Why hasn't Hillary Clinton been given the title of election denier? Didn't she say the election in 16 was stolen from her?
 
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Serious question. Why hasn't Hillary Clinton been given the title of election denier? Didn't she say the election in 16 was stolen from her?
Lol. Why aren't you in church on Sunday morning?

First, I don't like the Clintons and never voted for either of them. I voted for the elder Bush in '92, Bob Dole in '96 and a third party candidate in 2016. To your point, though, she called Trump to concede hours after the polls closed, she attended his inauguration and she referred to him as President Trump throughout his presidency.
 
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I can’t imagine Kelly comparing Hispanics to monkeys is going to be good for him.
Many races are in doubt but this isn't one of them. Kelly's a lock, and he has huge support (+35) from the Hispanic community.

 
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I can’t imagine Kelly comparing Hispanics to monkeys is going to be good for him.
Is this post from 2020? I had to google to even find out what you were referencing, and you think this remark from the election cycle 2 yrs ago is going to trump Masters' opposition to abortion rights or loan forgiveness? with Hispanic voters?

Do you know that the highest % of loan forgiveness candidates with Pell grants ($20,000 eligibility) are Black and Hispanic? And in AZ that number is over 500,000 people...Do you think all these loan forgiveness eligible people, their families and friends are only registered Democrats?
 
Do you even know that the tweet you posted relies on analysis for House races, which are a far cry from the Senate? I only mention this because Kelly is a Senator, and with a case like Masters independents and some Republicans who might vote for a local GOP House candidate in a 2 man contest, will be inclined to split their ticket and vote for Kelly if they feel Masters position on certain issues is too extreme. The same can be true in a reverse scenario like PA, where some Oz voters will likely find Mastriano too extreme...

Otherwise, you wouldn't show varying leads between House/Senate race polls for the same party within the same state...
 
Lol. Why aren't you in church on Sunday morning?

First, I don't like the Clintons and never voted for either of them. I voted for the elder Bush in '92, Bob Dole in '96 and a third party candidate in 2016. To your point, though, she called Trump to concede hours after the polls closed, she attended his inauguration and she referred to him as President Trump throughout his presidency.
I went to church this morning and Sunday School. I wrote that before I left. Didn't Hillary point to Russian Collusion and how the election was stolen?
 
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Serious question. Why hasn't Hillary Clinton been given the title of election denier? Didn't she say the election in 16 was stolen from her?
Besides the fact that she didn't campaign on that claim, or inspire riots based on it 2 yrs later...

A more obvious question is why did Bolduc claim a month ago that the election in 2020 was rigged and all the other Big Lie nonsense, and then suddenly realize it wasn't a day after his nomination? The magic of video...

 
What exactly is the problem with questioning the 2020 election?

Many politicians take positions that seem ignorant and destructive to those who disagree and those politicians are routinely elected.
1. It’s baseless.

2. Crying illegitimacy is destructive of our democracy and institutions just as it is when the Dems do it. It also might create a boy-who-cried wolf result at a later point.

3. The politicians who run on it, then, put ideology over facts or are cynically causing harm to advance their own interests.
 
Is this post from 2020? I had to google to even find out what you were referencing, and you think this remark from the election cycle 2 yrs ago is going to trump Masters' opposition to abortion rights or loan forgiveness? with Hispanic voters?

Do you know that the highest % of loan forgiveness candidates with Pell grants ($20,000 eligibility) are Black and Hispanic? And in AZ that number is over 500,000 people...Do you think all these loan forgiveness eligible people, their families and friends are only registered Democrats?
You think the college loan deadbeat policy which will cost US taxpayers a trillion bucks is a winner? Any decent politician can expose that for the terrible policy it is.
 
I went to church this morning and Sunday School. I wrote that before I left. Didn't Hillary point to Russian Collusion and how the election was stolen?
She was more pissed at Comey than anyone else. But, once again, she acknowledged her defeat, she called Trump to concede, and she attended his inauguration. Quite different from Trump's response - - - featuring pressure on state elections officials to overturn the results, a fake electors plot, a fraudulent "Election Defense Fund" and a "Will be Wild!" riot - - to Biden's win.

I went to 10:00 Mass this morning. The gospel today was Luke, the parable of the rich man. The problem with ignoring the plight of the poor. The sin of selfishness. Did you discuss that in your sermon or in Sunday School? How does the parable apply in today's world?
 
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You think the college loan deadbeat policy which will cost US taxpayers a trillion bucks is a winner? Any decent politician can expose that for the terrible policy it is.
Well reasonable people can disagree over whether it is good policy or not. I've read articles from people within the financial industry who discuss how it will help industries like real estate, home construction and related businesses because people who haven't had the ability to buy a house , will now be able to.

The question is does it hurt him politically? I'd say it positively affects a lot more people than you may realize...This state by state analysis demonstrates that the lowest number are in heavy GOP states that are already solidly Red. It becomes trickier for the GOP to oppose in states like GA (3rd highest) and PA where a larger amount of people are impacted positively.


For example 120 members of the Nursing staff at Temple (U) Hospital had $7 Million in student debt. These are nurses who many are working 2 jobs to meet their loan payments and make ends meet, not slacker baristas as the Pubs try to claim.



Do you think the (for example) 1.7 Million eligible borrowers in PA are all deadbeats, or Dems? And how many people who are eligible and would benefit, are going to vote for the candidate that promises to take away the program that would benefit them personally? Biden ran on the issue, and a significant number of people who voted for him did so on that issue, to the extent they are single issue voters...
 
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Republicans 55%
Democrats 34%

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-This poll has a Dem biased and is of RVs (Registered Voters) meaning the GOP lead is likely leading by a wider margin than we can see.

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Is it 11/8 yet. This board is going to be alot of fun on 11/09.
 
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The best thing Liz Cheney can do for Kari Lake is open her big WMD-having mouth in support of Katie Hobbs.
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What exactly is the problem with questioning the 2020 election?

Many politicians take positions that seem ignorant and destructive to those who disagree and those politicians are routinely elected.
Jeez, they're not just "questioning" the election and then admitting the evidence proved their suspicions were wrong.

They're saying over and over again WITH NO PROOF that they know as an absolute fact that the election was fraudulent and stolen from Trump and that the fraud was widespread all across the country, even where Trump lost in red states with the votes counted by Republicans,

In addition, they ignored documented cases of voter fraud committed by Republicans, instead repeating nonstop their onesided claims that fraud was committed only by Democrats. Also, they made no effort to demonstrate that the number of votes actually proven improper in a given state were numerous enough to overcome Trump's losing margin in that state.

In lockstep agreement, 25-30 states have now made their voting procedures more restrictive, demonstrating that the controlling Republicans in those states are implementing Trump's election lies as a matter of policy,

Sore-loser Republicans have succeeded in creating an atmosphere of automatic rejection of election results when any Republican candidate loses an election, to the point of trying to prevent Congress from certifying Trump's loss on Jan. 6.

But maybe you think all this is OK in a government system that depends on elections.
 
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Well reasonable people can disagree over whether it is good policy or not. I've read articles from people within the financial industry who discuss how it will help industries like real estate, home construction and related businesses because people who haven't had the ability to buy a house , will now be able to.

The question is does it hurt him politically? I'd say it positively affects a lot more people than you may realize...This state by state analysis demonstrates that the lowest number are in heavy GOP states that are already solidly Red. It becomes trickier for the GOP to oppose in states like GA (3rd highest) and PA where a larger amount of people are impacted positively.


For example 120 members of the Nursing staff at Temple (U) Hospital had $7 Million in student debt. These are nurses who many are working 2 jobs to meet their loan payments and make ends meet, not slacker baristas as the Pubs try to claim.



Do you think the (for example) 1.7 Million eligible borrowers in PA are all deadbeats, or Dems? And how many people who are eligible and would benefit, are going to vote for the candidate that promises to take away the program that would benefit them personally? Biden ran on the issue, and a significant number of people who voted for him did so on that issue, to the extent they are single issue voters...
First, a President doesn't have the "power of the purse." That belongs to congress and specifically the House. If a President can spend a trillion bucks which weren't authorized to be spent by congress to buy deadbeat votes, we're in big, big trouble as a country. Second, the idea that people that didn't go to college or who did and repaid their college loans should be on the hook to pay for the loans of people that whine about not WANTING to pay the loans they freely agreed to pay back is absolutely disgusting to me. I have ZERO, and I mean ZERO with capital letters, respect for the policy or for the deadbeats.
 
First, a President doesn't have the "power of the purse." That belongs to congress and specifically the House. If a President can spend a trillion bucks which weren't authorized to be spent by congress to buy deadbeat votes, we're in big, big trouble as a country. Second, the idea that people that didn't go to college or who did and repaid their college loans should be on the hook to pay for the loans of people that whine about not WANTING to pay the loans they freely agreed to pay back is absolutely disgusting to me. I have ZERO, and I mean ZERO with capital letters, respect for the policy or for the deadbeats.
A democrat did it. So cosmic supports it. Period.
 
Is this post from 2020? I had to google to even find out what you were referencing, and you think this remark from the election cycle 2 yrs ago is going to trump Masters' opposition to abortion rights or loan forgiveness? with Hispanic voters?

Do you know that the highest % of loan forgiveness candidates with Pell grants ($20,000 eligibility) are Black and Hispanic? And in AZ that number is over 500,000 people...Do you think all these loan forgiveness eligible people, their families and friends are only registered Democrats?
So the terminology is fine as long as it’s more than 2 years ago? Are those the guidelines? Or is it something about an R and a D?
 
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