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Another election denier wins an important primary

There would be nothing wrong with it if you could show one itty-bitty infinitesimal piece of evidence proving widespread fraud.

Too bad Lindell's phone was taken. He could show all that evidence...again.
Huh? So the first amendment only applies to speech that passes your litmus test. Got it.
 
The question I have is, how much are the Dems helping these deniers in the primaries, gambling that it will be easier to beat them in the midterms? Propping up these kooks so that theyre easier to beat is dangerous strategy, and it makes me nervous.

Moderate R Peter Meijer, one of the few Rs who voted to impeach Trump, lost to election denying Gibbs. According to Meijer, the Dems helped fund his opponent’s campaign.


i doubt it's making that much difference.

i don't think money plays the part in elections it once did for national offices.

especially the ones with wanabe MAGA election stealers involved.

and the DNC are again total brain dead idiots in calling them "election deniers".

there are always some idiots, but most of them know full well Trump probably didn't win, even if they don't admit to it.

they are wannabe "election/democracy stealers", and should be labeled as such.

i assure you, the RNC would never make that labeling brain dead blunder if the roles were reversed.

they'd call them "election stealers" all day everyday on every platform they have.

then again, the RNC isn't heavily funded and "media-ed" by entities that would rather the other party win anyway, while the DNC absolutely is, and that funding and false flag media representation is about hedging their bets and controlling primaries.
 
These horrible numbers for Biden are very good news for the MAGA "extremist " candidates in these states where I suspect they will do very well!!!! Extremists MAGA will likely will at least two of these senate races if not all of them!

BIDEN JOB APPROVAL By Emerson College
ARIZONA Approve 40% Disapprove 53%
GEORGIA Approve 42% Disapprove 57%
NEVADA Approve 37% Disapprove 53%
PENNSYLVANIA Approve 39% Disapprove 57%
AVERAGE: 39.5/55
(-15.5) 08/15-09/10, Likely Voters
Says the Fetterman supporter and Biden voter.

And Masters will win as will Lake.

Is there any particular reason you guys are obsessed with an outlier Emerson poll that isn't even the most recent or representative in terms of sample size?

The Echelon poll is more recent, has a larger sample size (nearly 150 more respondents) and is even an LV model, so you can't argue that they only targeted "registered" voters, not likely. More importantly, it is a lot more in keeping with the trend of overall polling in this race. Even the Trafalgar (GOP oriented) poll had Kelly with a 4 point lead and nearly 50%, and Echelon has him at 52 and Masters way down at 37. That's what happens when you campaign on an issue people are opposed to (revoking Roe),and then try and pretend otherwise when it becomes obvious it's a losing proposition among everyone but GOP Primary voters...

I checked to see if the Emerson poll was a trend, but it's clearly an outlier to show 2 points in a race where the average of the past 5 polls is 7%. I'm not even sure why you're so reliant on Emerson anyway, although they are decent. But Masters only trailing by 2 points is misleading based on this insight from the Emerson poll itself...

"Spencer Kimball, Executive Director of Emerson College Polling said, “A stark gender divide exists in the Arizona Senate Election; men break for Masters by a 10-point margin whereas women voters break for Kelly by 13. Additionally, Independent voters favor Kelly over Masters, 46% to 37%"

Trailing by 9 points among Independents and losing the gender gap by 3 is not a recipe for success in an election where registration of women voters has been significantly greater throughout the country post Roe and Independents have been instrumental already in elections where Roe was a driving issue. Again this is a likely voter model, and that means it is likely under sampling people who would not be considered "likely" in a normal midterm cycle.



General Election​

SourceDateSampleKelly*MastersOther
Average of 5 Polls†48.4%41.6%-
Echelon Insights9/13/2022773 LV ±4.5%52%37%11%
Emerson College9/09/2022627 LV ±3.9%47%45%8%
InsiderAdvantage9/09/2022550 RV ±4.2%45%39%16%
Trafalgar Group8/29/20221,074 LV ±2.9%48%44%8%
RMG Research8/26/2022750 LV ±3.6%50%43%7%
Fox News8/18/20221,012 LV ±3%50%42%8%
Beacon Research7/29/2022504 LV ±4.4%51%39%10%
Blueprint Polling5/18/2022608 LV ±4%49%32%19%
OH Predictive Insights9/29/2021882 RV ±3.3%44%35%21%
* Incumbent
†The average includes the most recent poll from each source within the past 30 days, up to a maximum of five. If five polls are found, and there are other qualifying polls on that same calendar date, those will also be included.

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The democrats supported Bolduc while the republicans actually tried to block him.

I’ve asked before on this board, how can people believe the democrats when they whine that Trump is a danger to democracy while at the same time they’re supporting his hand picked candidates?

They obviously think trumps hand picked looneys will be easier to beat
 
i doubt it's making that much difference.

i don't think money plays the part in elections it once did for national offices.

especially the ones with wanabe MAGA election stealers involved.

and the DNC are again total brain dead idiots in calling them "election deniers".

there are always some idiots, but most of them know full well Trump probably didn't win, even if they don't admit to it.

they are wannabe "election/democracy stealers", and should be labeled as such.

i assure you, the RNC would never make that labeling brain dead blunder if the roles were reversed.

they'd call them "election stealers" all day everyday on every platform they have.

then again, the RNC isn't heavily funded and "media-ed" by entities that would rather the other party win anyway, while the DNC absolutely is, and that funding and false flag media representation is about hedging their bets and controlling primaries.
What?
 
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Is there any particular reason you guys are obsessed with an outlier Emerson poll that isn't even the most recent or representative in terms of sample size?

The Echelon poll is more recent, has a larger sample size (nearly 150 more respondents) and is even an LV model, so you can't argue that they only targeted "registered" voters, not likely. More importantly, it is a lot more in keeping with the trend of overall polling in this race. Even the Trafalgar (GOP oriented) poll had Kelly with a 4 point lead and nearly 50%, and Echelon has him at 52 and Masters way down at 37. That's what happens when you campaign on an issue people are opposed to (revoking Roe),and then try and pretend otherwise when it becomes obvious it's a losing proposition among everyone but GOP Primary voters...

I checked to see if the Emerson poll was a trend, but it's clearly an outlier to show 2 points in a race where the average of the past 5 polls is 7%. I'm not even sure why you're so reliant on Emerson anyway, although they are decent. But Masters only trailing by 2 points is misleading based on this insight from the Emerson poll itself...

"Spencer Kimball, Executive Director of Emerson College Polling said, “A stark gender divide exists in the Arizona Senate Election; men break for Masters by a 10-point margin whereas women voters break for Kelly by 13. Additionally, Independent voters favor Kelly over Masters, 46% to 37%"

Trailing by 9 points among Independents and losing the gender gap by 3 is not a recipe for success in an election where registration of women voters has been significantly greater throughout the country post Roe and Independents have been instrumental already in elections where Roe was a driving issue. Again this is a likely voter model, and that means it is likely under sampling people who would not be considered "likely" in a normal midterm cycle.


General Election​

SourceDateSampleKelly*MastersOther
Average of 5 Polls†48.4%41.6%-
Echelon Insights9/13/2022773 LV ±4.5%52%37%11%
Emerson College9/09/2022627 LV ±3.9%47%45%8%
InsiderAdvantage9/09/2022550 RV ±4.2%45%39%16%
Trafalgar Group8/29/20221,074 LV ±2.9%48%44%8%
RMG Research8/26/2022750 LV ±3.6%50%43%7%
Fox News8/18/20221,012 LV ±3%50%42%8%
Beacon Research7/29/2022504 LV ±4.4%51%39%10%
Blueprint Polling5/18/2022608 LV ±4%49%32%19%
OH Predictive Insights9/29/2021882 RV ±3.3%44%35%21%
* Incumbent
†The average includes the most recent poll from each source within the past 30 days, up to a maximum of five. If five polls are found, and there are other qualifying polls on that same calendar date, those will also be included.

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Your problem is you are quoting the same polls that the last few cycles had repubs getting crushed. There are very few accurate pollers anymore. I go off their past results to see who is accurate. Some of these will go legit in late october but most right now are nonsense look at their history. If fetterman wins it will be by maybe three. Did you not remember polls showing desantis down 9. Trump down 12. Kelly up 17. Same old every cycle now.
 
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I agree. That strategy is questionable for a lot of reasons, and it's playing with fire.

That said, irrespective of what has propelled the election deniers to the general election, they've got to be defeated in November.
So my question to you is will you accept the 2022 results regardless of who wins? I will. I am gussing you wont if it does not go your way. Is thst correct?
 
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I agree. That strategy is questionable for a lot of reasons, and it's playing with fire.

That said, irrespective of what has propelled the election deniers to the general election, they've got to be defeated in November.
I just want to know if you will except the results regardless of who wins? You are so convinced maga willl lose if they win will you accept it?
 
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So my question to you is will you accept the 2022 results regardless of who wins? I will. I am gussing you wont if it does not go your way. Is thst correct?

So my question to you is, did you accept the 2020 presidential election results?
 
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The New Hampshire US Senate seat held by Democrat Maggie Hassan was likely to flip red for a moderate Republican candidate like Chuck Morse, the state senate president. Then Don Bolduc, an ardent Trump supporter who has repeated Trump's Big Lie about a stolen election, won yesterday's primary.

In some key states (Pennsylvania, for example), election deniers have essentially taken over the GOP. If these election denier candidates lose, hopefully the party will finally dump Trump. If many of them win, we are seriously screwed.


Another election denier Trump buddy in the lead. And look at those numbers for orange man bad one and orange man bad two. Wow the extremists are doing very well!!!! Dementia Joe is not well liked in Ohio it must be full of MAGA extremists.


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NEW OHIO POLL By Emerson College SEN (R) J.D. Vance 44% (+4) (D) Tim Ryan 40%
GOV (R) Mike DeWine 50% (+17) (D) Nan Whaley 33%
PRES (R) Donald Trump 50% (+10) (D) Joe Biden 40% (R)
Ron DeSantis 48% (+10) (D) Joe Biden 38%
1,000 LV | 09/10-13
 
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Is there any particular reason you guys are obsessed with an outlier Emerson poll that isn't even the most recent or representative in terms of sample size?

The Echelon poll is more recent, has a larger sample size (nearly 150 more respondents) and is even an LV model, so you can't argue that they only targeted "registered" voters, not likely. More importantly, it is a lot more in keeping with the trend of overall polling in this race. Even the Trafalgar (GOP oriented) poll had Kelly with a 4 point lead and nearly 50%, and Echelon has him at 52 and Masters way down at 37. That's what happens when you campaign on an issue people are opposed to (revoking Roe),and then try and pretend otherwise when it becomes obvious it's a losing proposition among everyone but GOP Primary voters...

I checked to see if the Emerson poll was a trend, but it's clearly an outlier to show 2 points in a race where the average of the past 5 polls is 7%. I'm not even sure why you're so reliant on Emerson anyway, although they are decent. But Masters only trailing by 2 points is misleading based on this insight from the Emerson poll itself...

"Spencer Kimball, Executive Director of Emerson College Polling said, “A stark gender divide exists in the Arizona Senate Election; men break for Masters by a 10-point margin whereas women voters break for Kelly by 13. Additionally, Independent voters favor Kelly over Masters, 46% to 37%"

Trailing by 9 points among Independents and losing the gender gap by 3 is not a recipe for success in an election where registration of women voters has been significantly greater throughout the country post Roe and Independents have been instrumental already in elections where Roe was a driving issue. Again this is a likely voter model, and that means it is likely under sampling people who would not be considered "likely" in a normal midterm cycle.


General Election​

SourceDateSampleKelly*MastersOther
Average of 5 Polls†48.4%41.6%-
Echelon Insights9/13/2022773 LV ±4.5%52%37%11%
Emerson College9/09/2022627 LV ±3.9%47%45%8%
InsiderAdvantage9/09/2022550 RV ±4.2%45%39%16%
Trafalgar Group8/29/20221,074 LV ±2.9%48%44%8%
RMG Research8/26/2022750 LV ±3.6%50%43%7%
Fox News8/18/20221,012 LV ±3%50%42%8%
Beacon Research7/29/2022504 LV ±4.4%51%39%10%
Blueprint Polling5/18/2022608 LV ±4%49%32%19%
OH Predictive Insights9/29/2021882 RV ±3.3%44%35%21%
* Incumbent
†The average includes the most recent poll from each source within the past 30 days, up to a maximum of five. If five polls are found, and there are other qualifying polls on that same calendar date, those will also be included.

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A new, highly anticipated report from the leading association of pollsters confirms just how wrong the 2020 election polls were. But nine months after that closer-than-expected contest, the people asking why are still looking for answers.
National surveys of the 2020 presidential contest were the least accurate in 40 years, while the state polls were the worst in at least two decades, according to the new, comprehensive report from the American Association for Public Opinion Research.

But unlike 2016, when pollsters could pinpoint factors like the education divide as reasons they underestimated Donald Trump and offer specific recommendations to fix the problem, the authors of the new American Association for Public Opinion Research report couldn’t put their finger on the exact problem they face now. Instead, they’ve stuck to rejecting the idea that they made the same mistakes as before, while pointing to possible new reasons for inaccuracy.


“We could rule some things out, but it’s hard to prove beyond a certainty what happened,” said Josh Clinton, a professor at Vanderbilt University and the chair of the association’s 2020 election task force. “Based on what we know about polling, what we know about politics, we have some good prime suspects as to what may be going on.”
 
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But Eschelon Polling had Oz down by 21 points the other day. That just show how absurd some of these so called pollers are. Eschelon should be run out of business for putting that crap out because I think some liberals actually believe it. It is impossible for Biden to have a 39% approval it is even less in Penns and Fetterman to have a 21 point lead. What a total joke that will likely end up going down as the worst poll of the whole cycle.

New independent
@trafalgar_group
#PASen #Poll (9/13-15) shows neck&neck race w/small #Fetterman lead #papol: 47.7%
@JohnFetterman
45.9%
@DrOz
3.5%
@Erik4Senate
0.5% Other 2.4% Und See Report: https://thetrafalgargroup.org/news/pa-sen-0916/
 
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But Eschelon Polling had Oz down by 21 points the other day. That just show how absurd some of these so called pollers are. Eschelon should be run out of business for putting that crap out because I think some liberals actually believe it. It is impossible for Biden to have a 39% approval it is even less in Penns and Fetterman to have a 21 point lead. What a total joke that will likely end up going down as the worst poll of the whole cycle.

New independent
@trafalgar_group
#PASen #Poll (9/13-15) shows neck&neck race w/small #Fetterman lead #papol: 47.7%
@JohnFetterman
45.9%
@DrOz
3.5%
@Erik4Senate
0.5% Other 2.4% Und See Report: https://thetrafalgargroup.org/news/pa-sen-0916/
November will be fun.

 
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Your problem is you are quoting the same polls that the last few cycles had repubs getting crushed. There are very few accurate pollers anymore. I go off their past results to see who is accurate. Some of these will go legit in late october but most right now are nonsense look at their history. If fetterman wins it will be by maybe three. Did you not remember polls showing desantis down 9. Trump down 12. Kelly up 17. Same old every cycle now.
You're talking ancient history- the world before Roe. You're citing polls that have been inaccurate in all 4 of the special elections which have occurred since the Roe decision came down. I know that to be true, because when you quote Ras or Trafalgar you are quoting polls who lean GOP in a normal cycle. They are even more committed right now because they are relying on a likely voter model, and with Roe and the influx of women registering post Roe those models are antiquated, at least with resect to Nov 2022...

You have to look beyond just polls, when you have actual results to analyze. Polling in Kansas showed that Yes on the amendment on abortion was slightly ahead. Polls in general showed that, but polls like Ras and Trafalgar had it even more ahead, because that's how they skew.

But 200,000 people who weren't expected to vote ended up voting on the amendment, but they didn't vote in either party's races. 700,000 voted in the party primaries but 900,000 voted on the amendment. And a higher % of the vote came from the most democratic district in the state, with more votes from that district cast against the amendment in 2022 than voted for Biden in 2020.

Then just to show it wasn't an outlier, pre-election polls in the NY 19 race showed the GOP candidate ahead by 8 points, in a district Biden won by 1.5 points. Again those numbers would have been higher in Ras or Trafalgar because they expect more GOP voters to vote and weigh their polls that way. But instead it was again Dem voters who didn't qualify as "likely" who showed up and the Dem won by 3 points, twice as much as Biden in 2020. Again Roe was the huge issue, and while it's likely that some normally Pub voters voted for the Dem, the reality is that Dems (unexpectedly) turned out in force.

When Dems poll well in the same polls where Biden's popularity is still underwater, you can't claim the poll is skewed towards Dems. The problem the Pubs (unexpectedly) face this year is that even when people rate them higher in certain categories, a significant number still prefer the Dem candidate overall, and much of that has to do with who the GOP nominated.
 
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You're talking ancient history- the world before Roe. You're citing polls that have been inaccurate in all 4 of the special elections which have occurred since the Roe decision came down. I know that to be true, because when you quote Ras or Trafalgar you are quoting polls who lean GOP in a normal cycle. They are even more committed right now because they are relying on a likely voter model, and with Roe and the influx of women registering post Roe those models are antiquated, at least with resect to Nov 2022...

You have to look beyond just polls, when you have actual results to analyze. Polling in Kansas showed that Yes on the amendment on abortion was slightly ahead. Polls in general showed that, but polls like Ras and Trafalgar had it even more ahead, because that's how they skew.

But 200,000 people who weren't expected to vote ended up voting on the amendment, but they didn't vote in either party's races. 700,000 voted in the party primaries but 900,000 voted on the amendment. And a higher % of the vote came from the most democratic district in the state, with more votes from that district cast against the amendment in 2022 than voted for Biden in 2020.

Then just to show it wasn't an outlier, pre-election polls in the NY 19 race showed the GOP candidate ahead by 8 points, in a district Biden won by 1.5 points. Again those numbers would have been higher in Ras or Trafalgar because they expect more GOP voters to vote and weigh their polls that way. But instead it was again Dem voters who didn't qualify as "likely" who showed up and the Dem won by 3 points, twice as much as Biden in 2020. Again Roe was the huge issue, and while it's likely that some normally Pub voters voted for the Dem, the reality is that Dems (unexpectedly) turned out in force.

When Dems poll well in the same polls where Biden's popularity is still underwater, you can't claim the poll is skewed towards Dems. The problem the Pubs (unexpectedly) face this year is that even when people rate them higher in certain categories, a significant number still prefer the Dem candidate overall, and much of that has to do with who the GOP nominated.
I guess we're going to have to change the thread title, because apparently Bolduc is no longer an election denier...

This interview on Fox would be painful to watch, if it wasn't so funny to see him try to destroy his former self .of 2 days ago...



If all of these candidates are doing so well in all of these "reputable" GOP polls by stating their extremist positions, then why the hell are they desperately scrambling to reinvent themselves? Inquiring minds are curious as Hell, as to why that is? Who changes a "winning strategy"?
 
The New Hampshire US Senate seat held by Democrat Maggie Hassan was likely to flip red for a moderate Republican candidate like Chuck Morse, the state senate president. Then Don Bolduc, an ardent Trump supporter who has repeated Trump's Big Lie about a stolen election, won yesterday's primary.

In some key states (Pennsylvania, for example), election deniers have essentially taken over the GOP. If these election denier candidates lose, hopefully the party will finally dump Trump. If many of them win, we are seriously screwed.


Another ELECTION DENIER surging. This race wont even be close bowlmania!!!

ARIZONA GOVERNOR POLLING TRENDS By Trafalgar Group August 27: (R) Kari Lake 46.5% (+0.7) (D) Katie Hobbs 45.8%
September 15: (R) Kari Lake 50% (+4.4) (D) Katie Hobbs 45.6%
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The New Hampshire US Senate seat held by Democrat Maggie Hassan was likely to flip red for a moderate Republican candidate like Chuck Morse, the state senate president. Then Don Bolduc, an ardent Trump supporter who has repeated Trump's Big Lie about a stolen election, won yesterday's primary.

In some key states (Pennsylvania, for example), election deniers have essentially taken over the GOP. If these election denier candidates lose, hopefully the party will finally dump Trump. If many of them win, we are seriously screwed.



by "election denier", i presume you mean lying cheating wannabe election stealers.

in things this important, let's call it like it is.
 
The question I have is, how much are the Dems helping these deniers in the primaries, gambling that it will be easier to beat them in the midterms? Propping up these kooks so that theyre easier to beat is dangerous strategy, and it makes me nervous.

Moderate R Peter Meijer, one of the few Rs who voted to impeach Trump, lost to election denying Gibbs. According to Meijer, the Dems helped fund his opponent’s campaign.

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(R) Mark Finchem 47.5% (+6.4)
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by "election denier", i presume you mean lying cheating wannabe election stealers.

in things this important, let's call it like it is.
Bolduc's a real prize. He's desperately tried to reinvest himself ,and now claims he was wrong (throughout the summer) when he claimed the election was stolen from Trump...

But what I find really troubling, and is typical of someone who knows they can't win an actual statewide election, is his advocacy for revoking the 17th Amendment. Hey rather than let the citizens (who don't like us) vote for Senator, let's return it to the control of Gerrymandered legislatures.

We already know that the GOP will turn somersaults in their attempt to keep abortion off of the ballot, we saw that in Michigan. So should we be shocked that a retired General wants his buddies in the Legislature to just appoint him as Senator, and avoid him having to face the rabble? You know Masters and Herschel would be all in as well...

 
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So my question to you is will you accept the 2022 results regardless of who wins? I will. I am guessing you wont if it does not go your way. Is thst correct?

And these folks still haven't accepted 2020, even in counties Trump won. He won Coffee Co GA with 70% of the vote and won by over 2000 votes in Antrim Co MI and these same morons there insisted on a recount, which of course cost taxpayer funds. The recount discovered TWELVE votes added to Trump's total...

These people are out of control, and it's not even the Nov election yet. This is what happens when a demagogue claims falsely that in a country where he's only popular with roughly 40% of the electorate , he could only lose if he was cheated. And then stupid people who are exclusive viewers of right wing media believe him and act accordingly...

In NC, the GOP poll watchers in the PRIMARY were so abusive that there were TWELVE COUNTIES where complaints were lodged by GOP voters and GOP poll workers over the actions of Trumpist poll watchers.

There were reports of watchers telling people who to vote for, wanting to stand behind voting machines and WATCH people vote, and taking pictures and demanding to be in the rooms where votes are tabulated. The Dems sent their normal 7 or 8 poll watchers, but in counties where Dems hadn't won an election in 20+ yrs, upwards of 30+ GOP poll watchers showed up and just made asses of themselves...


And then there are the massive amount of voter challenges overzealous Trump nuts have filed, after Loony Lindell and his crew of election denying morons have visited various states and "lectured" on how to disrupt the system. Poll workers in some states are overwhelmed, trying to clear up these nonsensical time wasting challenges prior to the election.

 
And these folks still haven't accepted 2020, even in counties Trump won. He won Coffee Co GA with 70% of the vote and won by over 2000 votes in Antrim Co MI and these same morons there insisted on a recount, which of course cost taxpayer funds. The recount discovered TWELVE votes added to Trump's total...

Antrim Co. was where there was a counting problem that was immediately caught and immediately corrected, but became the poster boy for "the fix".
 
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Not necesarily a denier or maga extremist facist but given he ships illegals to blue states still a big enemy of the work left. BETO is done stick a fork in him. I remember when BETO was the rising star of the far left wing woke crowd.

NEW POLL: Greg Abbott holds 11-Point lead over Beto O'Rourke among likely voters in Texas Governor Race TX Governor (R) Greg Abbott 50% (+11) (D) Beto O'Rourke 39% UTTyler | 09/06-13 | 1,124 LV https://dallasnews.com/news/politics/2022/09/19/texas-gov-greg-abbott-widens-lead-on-beto-orourke-in-new-poll/
 
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My litmus test my ass. Show me the evidence of "massive election fraud".
Evidence, you're a freaking lawyer, you know what evidence is.
Just one shred.
Why? You wouldn't believe it anyway.
 
A new, highly anticipated report from the leading association of pollsters confirms just how wrong the 2020 election polls were. But nine months after that closer-than-expected contest, the people asking why are still looking for answers.
National surveys of the 2020 presidential contest were the least accurate in 40 years, while the state polls were the worst in at least two decades, according to the new, comprehensive report from the American Association for Public Opinion Research.

But unlike 2016, when pollsters could pinpoint factors like the education divide as reasons they underestimated Donald Trump and offer specific recommendations to fix the problem, the authors of the new American Association for Public Opinion Research report couldn’t put their finger on the exact problem they face now. Instead, they’ve stuck to rejecting the idea that they made the same mistakes as before, while pointing to possible new reasons for inaccuracy.


“We could rule some things out, but it’s hard to prove beyond a certainty what happened,” said Josh Clinton, a professor at Vanderbilt University and the chair of the association’s 2020 election task force. “Based on what we know about polling, what we know about politics, we have some good prime suspects as to what may be going on.”
Probably didn't figure on massive ballots being turned in to drop off boxes at 3am.
 
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