The election has changed.

[mcmurtry66]

I think it all hinges on each administration's response to the pandemic. Obviously that changed everything. Trump's response put the US economy in the position Murt likes to blame on Biden and the US economy has been doing much better than other advanced countries under Biden's leadership.

Not me. Data. Here. We don’t live in Finland or anywhere else. We know the free cheese Biden put out. Biden. And we can track the timing of the spike that followed that is supported by the findings of the fed.

2022 Inflation Hit a 41 Year Record | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget

2023-03-06-Inflation surged at the fastest pace since 1981 last year, based on the final Consumer Price Index (CPI) and Personal Consumption Expenditure Price Index (PCE) figures released by the

www.crfb.org

Joe Biden is more responsible for high inflation than for abundant jobs

The main effect of the president’s economic policies has been to boost prices

www.economist.com

 

[Bowlmania]

Regarding the economy, what Trump policies do you believe cratered the economy?

Regarding the recovery from that cratering, what Biden policies do you believe led to a quick and strong recovery?

Trump didn't crater the strong economy he inherited from Obama, but he didn't do much to benefit it. In fact, an argument can be made that he harmed it with excessive spending (even before the pandemic), a soaring debt and deficit (even before the pandemic), and his tariff/trade policies, all contrary to longstanding Republican values and policy. The CBO reports that an extension of portions of Trump's tax cuts set to expire in 2025 would add another $4.6 trillion to the national debt through 2034.

With respect to inflation, Trump entered the White House with inflation already low. Neither he nor Obama can take credit for that, though. Inflation was low as a result of the slow recovery from the Great Recession, Federal Reserve action, and then (in 2020) the pandemic.

Inflation soared globally following the pandemic. Biden's American Rescue Plan contributed to inflation, but also enabled us to recover faster, economically, than most of the developed world.

I've got links if you need them.

 

[LifelongIU77]

Meanwhile

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/30/politics/fact-check-harris-vance-project-2025/index.html

Yeah.. she's "so good". Lol...they straight up said "we are lying and we don't care". And you pathetic fools are excited for more of this?

Harris Campaign Admits to Misleading Voters on Trump, Project 2025

A campaign official for Democrat Kamala Harris acknowledges the vice president is deliberately misleading voters about Project 2025.

www.dailysignal.com

 

[mcmurtry66]

Trump didn't crater the strong economy he inherited from Obama, but he didn't do much to benefit it. In fact, an argument can be made that he harmed it with excessive spending (even before the pandemic), a soaring debt and deficit (even before the pandemic), and his tariff/trade policies, all contrary to longstanding Republican values and policy. The CBO reports that an extension of portions of Trump's tax cuts set to expire in 2025 would add another $4.6 trillion to the national debt through 2034.

With respect to inflation, Trump entered the White House with inflation already low. Neither he nor Obama can take credit for that, though. Inflation was low as a result of the slow recovery from the Great Recession, Federal Reserve action, and then (in 2020) the pandemic.

Inflation soared globally following the pandemic. Biden's American Rescue Plan contributed to inflation, but also enabled us to recover faster, economically, than most of the developed world.

I've got links if you need them.

I would argue with you on tax cuts and keeping biz competitive etc vs 35 percent under Harris but I think your take is largely fair

I also think it’s debatable whether we would have been better off sacrificing the economy to keep prices down. But reasonable minds….

The biggest issue I have is that the free cheese wasn’t responsive but policy with the hope of continuation past the pandemic. Equity of outcome presupposes more of the same

 

[BradStevens]

I think it all hinges on each administration's response to the pandemic. Obviously that changed everything. Trump's response put the US economy in the position Murt likes to blame on Biden and the US economy has been doing much better than other advanced countries under Biden's leadership.

You’ve said a few times now that Trump cratered the economy through his response to Covid.

Can you name which policies you think did that? That article is irrelevant to this question.

 

[Harry Hondo]

Trump didn't crater the strong economy he inherited from Obama, but he didn't do much to benefit it. In fact, an argument can be made that he harmed it with excessive spending (even before the pandemic), a soaring debt and deficit (even before the pandemic), and his tariff/trade policies, all contrary to longstanding Republican values and policy. The CBO reports that an extension of portions of Trump's tax cuts set to expire in 2025 would add another $4.6 trillion to the national debt through 2034.

With respect to inflation, Trump entered the White House with inflation already low. Neither he nor Obama can take credit for that, though. Inflation was low as a result of the slow recovery from the Great Recession, Federal Reserve action, and then (in 2020) the pandemic.

Inflation soared globally following the pandemic. Biden's American Rescue Plan contributed to inflation, but also enabled us to recover faster, economically, than most of the developed world.

I've got links if you need them.

Economists were predicting a recession for the winner of the 2020 election. This downturn was predicted and to Biden's credit it never dipped into a recession, even with the pandemic.

Here's a 2019 article where 3 out of 4 economists predict a recession in 2021: https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...nomists-predict-us-recession-by-survey-finds/

 

[mcmurtry66]

Economists were predicting a recession for the winner of the 2020 election. This downturn was predicted and to Biden's credit it never dipped into a recession, even with the pandemic.

Here's a 2019 article where 3 out of 4 economists predict a recession in 2021: https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...nomists-predict-us-recession-by-survey-finds/

I think a recession would have been better than prices/inflation. But differing minds

 

[Willdog7]

Eating in the back of the restaurant is actually the best place to be if an active shooter comes in.

Get rid of the deer rifle A-R 15.

 

[Cortez88]

I think a recession would have been better than prices/inflation. But differing minds

Well, all those people who would have lost their jobs like in 2008-09 might disagree with you. Everyone understandably hates inflation, but massive jobs losses would have also really hurt people. No free lunches when dealing is global economic issues.

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

Get rid of the deer rifle A-R 15.

Hell no. I'm gonna need mine for the day you finally snap and go on your Whitey killing rampage.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Well, all those people who would have lost their jobs like in 2008-09 might disagree with you. Everyone understandably hates inflation, but massive jobs losses would have also really hurt people. No free lunches when dealing is global economic issues.

Of course they would. Maybe an extra 2 percent 3 percent lose their jobs. Inflated prices touch far more people. That’s why what’s worse is debatable. I would agree generally a recession would be worse.

That said I think their progressive policy was just benefits in general - transformative social safety net stuff.

 

[BradStevens]

Of course they would. Maybe 2 percent 3 percent lose their jobs. Inflated prices touch far more people. That’s why what’s worse is debatable.

Two piece (dark, not even white!) meal STILL north of $12 at Popeyes.

That affects everyone.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Two piece (dark, not even white!) meal STILL north of $12 at Popeyes.

That affects everyone.

That’s real life shit!!!!! The salient political point in my opinion is that they are progressives and just wanted to give out free shit. There was no weighing of the economy or inflation. Only pandering progressives

 

[larsIU]

Two piece (dark, not even white!)

RACIST!!!!

Also, who eats white meat? Gross.

 

[BradStevens]

RACIST!!!!

Also, who eats white meat? Gross.

My kid prefers dark. I like white (only chicken, though).

 

[Ohio Guy]

You’ve said a few times now that Trump cratered the economy through his response to Covid.

Can you name which policies you think did that? That article is irrelevant to this question.

I don't think there was a specific policy involved because I don't think he had a policy dedicated to pandemic responsiveness. And to be totally fair, I think any president would have had similar issues. My whole point in bringing this up with murt is to point out that Biden didn't operate in a vacuum. To just point to Biden 'creating' high inflation is disingenuous as it was Trump who held the reigns on COVID response for almost a full year before Biden was sworn in.

 

[mcmurtry66]

I don't think there was a specific policy involved because I don't think he had a policy dedicated to pandemic responsiveness. And to be totally fair, I think any president would have had similar issues. My whole point in bringing this up with murt is to point out that Biden didn't operate in a vacuum. To just point to Biden 'creating' high inflation is disingenuous as it was Trump who held the reins on COVID response for almost a full year before Biden was sworn in.

Covid response from trump was awful. The extent of free cheese from Biden was progressive pandering and unnecessary and is responsible for the spike we saw in prices

 

[SqueakyClean]

Of course they would. Maybe 2 percent 3 percent. Inflated prices touch far more people. That’s why what’s worse is debatable.

Is that 2 or 3 percent a figure you have seen in a source, or is that just a guess on your part?

 

[mcmurtry66]

Is that 2 or 3 percent a figure you have seen in a source, or is that just a guess on your part?

Made up. Gig work etc makes unemployment accuracy tough I think

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

You yourself implied that DANC, Dbm, and Joe would not vote for her. That's a non-insignificant portion of the Trump voters on this site. Let's see what they say.

@DANC @Joe_Hoopsier @dbmhoosier , please feel free to add a response to my poll thread.

You are several hours behind. Answered hours ago. In short. I'd hit it. ... The vote for button you perv, I know what you were thinking.!

 

[Baller23Boogie]

Made up. Gig work etc makes unemployment accuracy tough I think.

Onlyfans be getting people PAID!

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

You continuously ignore the fact that all of that started with Trump in office. He actually held up stimulus checks so he could have his name added to them. Why do you have such a blind spot for Trump cratering the economy?

You get more like Corky on Life Goes on all of the time.

 

[IUINSB]

The real problem is too many people are too easily offended. When did we lose our sense of humor? Why is everyone so uptight that we can no longer take a light-hearted tease directed our way? Critics who are the most vocal in protest over the comment aren’t even cat owners, let alone single and childless. When did it become so fashionable to pile on with this mob mentality?

I have no idea. Perhaps you should ask the deplorables.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Onlyfans be getting people PAID!

Brad bhabie has already made 57 mil on onlyfans. I mean what the hell. I wonder how much just the average dirty hot chick secretly makes on there

 

[DANC]

It shows the unfortunate power of identity politics in your party. It’s as sad as MAGA is in mine.

LOL How did our last two non-MAGA candidates fare?

 

[DANC]

Thier is nothing more dangerous that an educated female. Most women know how dangerous a pregnancy can be and you left the issue out of your response. Visit a pioneer cemetery and notice all the little stones and the mothers that died in childbirth. They don't want abortion on demand, but they do want a chance to live or have a healthy child.

They don't want abortion on demand?

That's exactly what they want - no limits.

 

[SqueakyClean]

Brad bhabie has already made 57 mil on onlyfans. I mean what the hell. I wonder how much just the average dirty hot chick secretly makes on there

 

[BradStevens]

Brad bhabie has already made 57 mil on onlyfans. I mean what the hell. I wonder how much just the average dirty hot chick secretly makes on there

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I'm seeing a BigCock in Lulu's page that could put those kids through college.

 

[DANC]

That’s conjecture. The actual party had no interest in her. She got destroyed. Joe and DANC and Dbm and so many others may not have voted for her. Maybe rfk Jr instead

Not me. I'd have voted for her in a New York minute.

All the Republicans running in the Primaries were excellent, imo. It's too bad Haley burned her bridges with Trump by insulting him during the Primaries and using the Democrat talking points against him.

She pretty much destroyed any political future with that stupid move. Whoever was advising her should be strung up.

 

[SqueakyClean]

You are several hours behind. Answered hours ago. In short. I'd hit it. ... The vote for button you perv, I know what you were thinking.!

Sorry, I was out sick yesterday, so today has been twice as busy at work.
Gotta pretend to work a few hours today at least.

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

They don't want abortion on demand?

That's exactly what they want - no limits.

I don’t know where he found enough straw for all the men he’s building in this thread. “**** your pregnancy complications, you’re having that baby” seems to be what he’s portraying Trumps position as.

 

[mcmurtry66]

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I'm seeing a BigCock in Lulu's page that could put those kids through college.

And since I’m letting myself go on manscaping. My handle could be JUNGLEADVENTURES

Multi fetish groups have to get more subscribers

 

[SqueakyClean]

The vote for button you perv, I know what you were thinking.!

Are you familiar with DaVinci's Notebook? They have a particular song entitled "Internet Porn". I can neither confirm nor deny that they based that song upon my browser history.

"Girl on girl on girl on girl on girl on guy on sheep"

 

[Baller23Boogie]

And since I’m letting myself go on manscaping. My handle could be JUNGLEADVENTURES

Multi fetish groups have to get more subscribers

Male feet pics.

That's where the money is.

 

[DANC]

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Harris is doing better than Biden, but she is still trailing. She needs to make up ground and has a couple of months to do so. However, if she doesn't do it after the DNC, in August, Trump will most likely be the President. Unfortunately for Democrats, she's still a terrible candidate who can be tied to Biden's train wreck administration. Her greatest accomplishment is, I'm not Joe Biden, but I helped him the last 4 years. Not a great campaign slogan. The MSM has a lot work to do the next couple months, but they don't control twitter this election cycle.

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Carvel was right. She's toast. She better hope she doesn't get her wish to debate Trump.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Male feet pics.

That's where the money is.

@Cortez88 🤣🤣😭😭. I could do that!!

 

[DANC]

I think if you knew the base alone was big enough to win. I don’t think that it Is.

What did Trump get in 2020? 71 million votes? I doubt Kamala draws the votes Biden did.

71+ million might be enough, particularly in swing states.

 

[SqueakyClean]

I will be absolutely shocked if turnout in 2024 is as high as it was in 2020. For both sides.

2020 Covid parameters made voting much easier than usual. We won't have that benefit this time.

It would not surprise me in the least if the winner barely breaks 70 mil.

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

Feel like you’ve been seeing Harris everywhere lately? You have:

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

I will be absolutely shocked if turnout in 2024 is as high as it was in 2020. For both sides.

2020 Covid parameters made voting much easier than usual. We won't have that benefit this time.

It would not surprise me in the least if the winner barely breaks 70 mil.

A lot of those Covid rules are still in effect, especially PA.