Agreed. The relief sought was never going to be granted. The Trump team and the GOP slept through the pre-election measures the Democrats forced through legislation, litigation, and a massive covid PR campaign carried out by a sycophant press. There is statistical evidence of funny business, but the time to address that was before the election.
I understand. Do you really think people should lose job opportunities because of stating an opinion about politics? In Colorado, an employer who discharges an employee for legal off the job conduct (with some exceptions) is subject to a wrongful discharge claim. I think that is a good law. Should it be expanded to hiring decisions ?
Trust me. Nobody is paying attention to these unknown generals.
If somebody proves themself an ass in public and I don’t want to hire them or continue to write them a paycheck, that should be ok.
By nobody, are you referring to current military? If so, that would make me feel better.
I’ve been out for 13 years. I believe the proportion of military personnel that believe it was stolen is likely somewhat higher than the general population but not by a lot.
So you would think about 83% of current military think it was stolen then, right?
It's the Ayn Rand way-whatever makes you happy is all you need.
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Bill you left out the productive partIt's the Ayn Rand way-whatever makes you happy is all you need.
How the brutality of the hard-right grew in the soil of libertarianism and Ayn Rand’s writings
Many Americans are baffled by the Republican Party's embrace of billionaire sociopath Trump and elected Republicans' willingness to overlook the death of seven Americans, including three police officers, in an attempted coup. (Particularly after they spent over 2 years and tens of millions of...
Rand's hero Roark, in fact, "raged" so much in her novel that he blew up a public housing project with dynamite just to get what he wanted. Sort of like the plans of the person who planted bombs at the RNC and DNC headquarters the night before January 6th.
Rand, in her Journals, explained where she got her inspiration for Howard Roark and so many of her other novels. She writes that the theme of The Fountainhead, for example, is, "One puts oneself above all and crushes everything in one's way to get the best for oneself."
On Trump's hero Howard Roark, she wrote that he "has learned long ago, with his first consciousness, two things which dominate his entire attitude toward life: his own superiority and the utter worthlessness of the world. He knows what he wants and what he thinks. He needs no other reasons, standards or considerations. His complete selfishness is as natural to him as breathing."
It turns out that Roark and many of her other characters were based on a real person. The man who so inspired Ayn Rand's fictional heroes was named William Edward Hickman, and he lived in Los Angeles during the Roaring Twenties.
Ten days before Christmas in 1927, Hickman, a teenager with slicked dark hair and tiny, muted eyes, drove up to Mount Vernon Junior High School in Los Angeles and kidnapped Marion Parker — the daughter of a wealthy banker in town.
Hickman held the girl ransom, demanding $1,500 from her father — back then about a year's salary. Supremely confident that he would elude capture, Hickman signed his name on the ransom notes, "The Fox."
After two days, Marion's father agreed to hand over the ransom in exchange for the safety of his daughter. What Perry Parker didn't know is that Hickman never intended to live up to his end of the bargain.
The Pittsburgh Press detailed what Hickman, in his own words, did next.
"It was while I was fixing the blindfold that the urge to murder came upon me," he said. "I just couldn't help myself. I got a towel and stepped up behind Marion. Then, before she could move, I put it around her neck and twisted it tightly."
Hickman didn't hold back on any of these details: he was proud of his cold-bloodedness.
"I held on and she made no outcry except to gurgle. I held on for about two minutes, I guess, and then I let go. When I cut loose the fastenings, she fell to the floor. I knew she was dead."
But Hickman wasn't finished. "After she was dead I carried her body into the bathroom and undressed her, all but the underwear, and cut a hole in her throat with a pocket knife to let the blood out."
Hickman then dismembered the child piece-by-piece, putting her limbs in a cabinet in his apartment, and then wrapped up the carved-up torso, powdered the lifeless face of Marion Parker, set what was left of her stump torso with the head sitting atop it in the passenger seat of his car, and drove to meet her father to collect the ransom money.
He even sewed open her eyelids to make it look like she was alive.
On the way, Hickman dumped body parts out of his car window, before rendezvousing with Marion Parker's father.
Armed with a shotgun so her father wouldn't come close enough to Hickman's car to see that Marion was dead, Hickman collected his $1,500, then kicked open the door and tossed the rest of Marion Parker onto the road. As he sped off, her father fell to his knees, screaming.
Days later, the police caught up with a defiant and unrepentant Hickman in Oregon. His lawyers pleaded insanity, but the jury gave him the gallows.
There is nothing inherent about being a retired general or admiral (assuming they really are such) that makes them experts in all the things they opine about in the letter, some of which are:
More than 120 retired generals and admirals wrote to Biden appearing to back a false election conspiracy and questioning his mental health
The letter published by "Flag Officers 4 America" appeared to advance a false conspiracy theory that the 2020 election was illegitimate.www.businessinsider.com
I don't understand the world anymore.
Yeah. NYT v Sullivan settled that issue in terms of issues or people of public interest. The limitation is actual malice toward a specific individual.
Ummmm what?It's the Ayn Rand way-whatever makes you happy is all you need.
How the brutality of the hard-right grew in the soil of libertarianism and Ayn Rand’s writings
Many Americans are baffled by the Republican Party's embrace of billionaire sociopath Trump and elected Republicans' willingness to overlook the death of seven Americans, including three police officers, in an attempted coup. (Particularly after they spent over 2 years and tens of millions of...
Rand's hero Roark, in fact, "raged" so much in her novel that he blew up a public housing project with dynamite just to get what he wanted. Sort of like the plans of the person who planted bombs at the RNC and DNC headquarters the night before January 6th.
Rand, in her Journals, explained where she got her inspiration for Howard Roark and so many of her other novels. She writes that the theme of The Fountainhead, for example, is, "One puts oneself above all and crushes everything in one's way to get the best for oneself."
On Trump's hero Howard Roark, she wrote that he "has learned long ago, with his first consciousness, two things which dominate his entire attitude toward life: his own superiority and the utter worthlessness of the world. He knows what he wants and what he thinks. He needs no other reasons, standards or considerations. His complete selfishness is as natural to him as breathing."
It turns out that Roark and many of her other characters were based on a real person. The man who so inspired Ayn Rand's fictional heroes was named William Edward Hickman, and he lived in Los Angeles during the Roaring Twenties.
Ten days before Christmas in 1927, Hickman, a teenager with slicked dark hair and tiny, muted eyes, drove up to Mount Vernon Junior High School in Los Angeles and kidnapped Marion Parker — the daughter of a wealthy banker in town.
Hickman held the girl ransom, demanding $1,500 from her father — back then about a year's salary. Supremely confident that he would elude capture, Hickman signed his name on the ransom notes, "The Fox."
After two days, Marion's father agreed to hand over the ransom in exchange for the safety of his daughter. What Perry Parker didn't know is that Hickman never intended to live up to his end of the bargain.
The Pittsburgh Press detailed what Hickman, in his own words, did next.
"It was while I was fixing the blindfold that the urge to murder came upon me," he said. "I just couldn't help myself. I got a towel and stepped up behind Marion. Then, before she could move, I put it around her neck and twisted it tightly."
Hickman didn't hold back on any of these details: he was proud of his cold-bloodedness.
"I held on and she made no outcry except to gurgle. I held on for about two minutes, I guess, and then I let go. When I cut loose the fastenings, she fell to the floor. I knew she was dead."
But Hickman wasn't finished. "After she was dead I carried her body into the bathroom and undressed her, all but the underwear, and cut a hole in her throat with a pocket knife to let the blood out."
Hickman then dismembered the child piece-by-piece, putting her limbs in a cabinet in his apartment, and then wrapped up the carved-up torso, powdered the lifeless face of Marion Parker, set what was left of her stump torso with the head sitting atop it in the passenger seat of his car, and drove to meet her father to collect the ransom money.
He even sewed open her eyelids to make it look like she was alive.
On the way, Hickman dumped body parts out of his car window, before rendezvousing with Marion Parker's father.
Armed with a shotgun so her father wouldn't come close enough to Hickman's car to see that Marion was dead, Hickman collected his $1,500, then kicked open the door and tossed the rest of Marion Parker onto the road. As he sped off, her father fell to his knees, screaming.
Days later, the police caught up with a defiant and unrepentant Hickman in Oregon. His lawyers pleaded insanity, but the jury gave him the gallows.
Bill, this is a post we don't get everyday on here.It's the Ayn Rand way-whatever makes you happy is all you need.
How the brutality of the hard-right grew in the soil of libertarianism and Ayn Rand’s writings
Many Americans are baffled by the Republican Party's embrace of billionaire sociopath Trump and elected Republicans' willingness to overlook the death of seven Americans, including three police officers, in an attempted coup. (Particularly after they spent over 2 years and tens of millions of...
Rand's hero Roark, in fact, "raged" so much in her novel that he blew up a public housing project with dynamite just to get what he wanted. Sort of like the plans of the person who planted bombs at the RNC and DNC headquarters the night before January 6th.
Rand, in her Journals, explained where she got her inspiration for Howard Roark and so many of her other novels. She writes that the theme of The Fountainhead, for example, is, "One puts oneself above all and crushes everything in one's way to get the best for oneself."
On Trump's hero Howard Roark, she wrote that he "has learned long ago, with his first consciousness, two things which dominate his entire attitude toward life: his own superiority and the utter worthlessness of the world. He knows what he wants and what he thinks. He needs no other reasons, standards or considerations. His complete selfishness is as natural to him as breathing."
It turns out that Roark and many of her other characters were based on a real person. The man who so inspired Ayn Rand's fictional heroes was named William Edward Hickman, and he lived in Los Angeles during the Roaring Twenties.
Ten days before Christmas in 1927, Hickman, a teenager with slicked dark hair and tiny, muted eyes, drove up to Mount Vernon Junior High School in Los Angeles and kidnapped Marion Parker — the daughter of a wealthy banker in town.
Hickman held the girl ransom, demanding $1,500 from her father — back then about a year's salary. Supremely confident that he would elude capture, Hickman signed his name on the ransom notes, "The Fox."
After two days, Marion's father agreed to hand over the ransom in exchange for the safety of his daughter. What Perry Parker didn't know is that Hickman never intended to live up to his end of the bargain.
The Pittsburgh Press detailed what Hickman, in his own words, did next.
"It was while I was fixing the blindfold that the urge to murder came upon me," he said. "I just couldn't help myself. I got a towel and stepped up behind Marion. Then, before she could move, I put it around her neck and twisted it tightly."
Hickman didn't hold back on any of these details: he was proud of his cold-bloodedness.
"I held on and she made no outcry except to gurgle. I held on for about two minutes, I guess, and then I let go. When I cut loose the fastenings, she fell to the floor. I knew she was dead."
But Hickman wasn't finished. "After she was dead I carried her body into the bathroom and undressed her, all but the underwear, and cut a hole in her throat with a pocket knife to let the blood out."
Hickman then dismembered the child piece-by-piece, putting her limbs in a cabinet in his apartment, and then wrapped up the carved-up torso, powdered the lifeless face of Marion Parker, set what was left of her stump torso with the head sitting atop it in the passenger seat of his car, and drove to meet her father to collect the ransom money.
He even sewed open her eyelids to make it look like she was alive.
On the way, Hickman dumped body parts out of his car window, before rendezvousing with Marion Parker's father.
Armed with a shotgun so her father wouldn't come close enough to Hickman's car to see that Marion was dead, Hickman collected his $1,500, then kicked open the door and tossed the rest of Marion Parker onto the road. As he sped off, her father fell to his knees, screaming.
Days later, the police caught up with a defiant and unrepentant Hickman in Oregon. His lawyers pleaded insanity, but the jury gave him the gallows.
But not a word for the Stop the Steal Rally and the ensuing Insurrection on 1/6? I wonder why that is?
Not only did Hickman inspire Rand but also the writers of last years great HBO's limited series Perry Mason:
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They served in the same Swift boat squadron, which is the same unit when it comes to a boat squadrons.
I think a company should be able to hire who they want but I don't think they should be able to fire a person simply based on their political beliefs unless they are so far out that they are saying things that could hurt the company. In other words they shouldn't be able to fire a person simply because they are a Trump supporter and may believe the election was stolen and express that on social media.
I think we can draw a line between political beliefs and posting patently racist, conspiratorial, hateful, violent, etc stuff. If you post that you plan on driving down to the BLM protest to show those “people” what a MAGA beat down looks like, your ass should be fired.
I don’t think somebody should lose their job because they carry a certain sign or wear a certain kind of hat when they are off duty and away from work.
Why? Are you suggesting all employment should have a code of conduct that applies 24/7 and anywhere? That is way over the top for me.
It certainly calls their judgment into question no? And would you as a business owner want to have people of questionable judgment working for your money?
Colorado recognizes a public policy exception to at will. An employer can’t take adverse job action for certain kinds of conduct that the public has an interest in protecting.
In an at will situation, this has always been the case. People get fired for DUIs. Like Ranger says, it’s about judgement.
Shouldn’t the poor judgment be related to job performance? You have said I post stupid stuff on this board, should that be a reason to fire me if all I do is sweep your floors?
We aren’t talking about criminal conduct. The issue is about legal conduct away from the job. The problem with your “judgment” argument is that it is subject to arbitrary application. There should be an actual job related impact.
So you’d have no problem learning your clerks are all police-hating marxists and had positive confidence that it wouldn’t interfere with their work?
It’s my business and I’ll do what I want to. Don’t reveal yourself as an anti-vax, defund the police, election was stolen, etc Cause Head if you want to sweep my floors for money.
I can also distinguish the nut who has these beliefs and the nut with terrible judgment who uses a social media megaphone to advertise the crazy. If that crazy spills over into my business then it is my business.
