"AD remains believer in job Miller's doing"
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A fun game to play after ignoring trolls is to guess which ignored troll others are talking to. I've got 10 blocked and the two most stupid of the trolls are DumbMary and feepaw. Since you said you're ignoring Mary it must be feepaw. Am I right?.
The hardest place in the big five conferences to recruit? Lubbock, Texas. It is 400 miles from the nearest major city. But its basketball reputation has just been launched and somehow, they have 7 or 8 good recruits. Their not whining, they're working on finding good D1 players to come to the wilderness and play RMK basketball. Amazing how that works.
what caught my attention is how different this is from what Glass was saying a year ago: https://www.news-sentinel.com/sport...ve-for-hoosier-basketball-this-coming-season/
IU won a B1G title the year before Archie was hired? Really? They finished 7-11 in the B1G in TC’s last season, and he left a program literally devoid of anyone that could shoot.
You’re not very intelligent, are you?
He has already said that he is not interested in returning to the college game. What makes you think that has changed?
Keep believing your excuses. Crean won 2 titles in the last 5 years. That nearly never happens when a coach is fired.
He certainly didn’t inherit a title contending team (no new coach does), but he’s drastically underperformed his talent level both years. That’s just the reality.
Because Fred will say whatever he needs to say to protect his butt. It’s pathetic and no one in the media calls him out on it.
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Who made any excuses? I stated facts. As I said, you're not very intelligent.
To be kind.
You were laughably wrong, but you doubled down on your stupidity. It’s why you’re so funny.
Mike Davis, Tubby Smith, Bruce Weber, and Kevin Ollie all did.
Did any of those coaches inherit a program from a coach who was fired for performance?
And there's your typical shifting of the goal posts when you're shown to be wrong. The problem is that you love talking in absolutes, you just can't help yourself.
Last time I checked, Bob Knight (who Mike Davis took over for FYI) was fired. Again, using absolutes bites you in the ass so you try to shift it to "fired for performance." If that was what you meant, you could have easily stated that initially, yet you failed to do so. You're shifting the goal posts.
As an administrator, fund raiser and capital projects person, he’s done well. But he had zero experience as a recruiter or steward of coaches or their respective sports, and his lack of expertise is plainly evident, especially in the most competitive sports. But he’s safe and will be in his position until he chooses to leave. IU’s parochialism ensures that.
Inherited better pieces than 99% of new coaches? Wow, pretty sure that's not close to accurate.
That is vastly a different tone.
What would anyone expect Glass to say this season?
‘This isnt what we expected when we brought Archie in...he’s not getting it done on the court, and now recruiting is falling off...I hope he fixes this mess...we are stuck financially for two more years...we thought he’d be better...and now it may cost me my job too’
Fred may be a clown or whatever some of you call him...but he’s realizing Archie is underperforming. His words in these articles this season vs last season shouts it.
I clearly said fired for performance. Try to keep up.
You can’t dispute the point so you try to nitpick the verbiage. Exactly what all kids do.
Yes, the fired for performed statement was after the fact and was your shifting the goal posts. You can't take being wrong so you shift the goal posts.
So your point is that coaches who are fired for performance typically leave the incoming coach a bad team. I agree. Crean was fired for performance. His last season the team was 2 games over 0.500. That bad team them lost its top 3 players - 2 current NBA players and its best shooter. So a bad team became even worse.
Saying that team was bad doesn't tell the whole story. They were a top 5 team early in the season. That team had it's highs and lows, as the wiki below mentions. It was certainly a team that ended up with a poor record, but I don't think it was a "bad" collection of talent. The prior year we finished 15-3 in the BIG10. It seems pretty reasonable to say that no one expected IU to be 7-11 in the BIG10 that year...and thus Crean was canned.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016–17_Indiana_Hoosiers_men's_basketball_team
It wasn't a bad collection of talent overall and Crean underperformed with them and was fired. Archie was left with that team without it's 3 best players and some rookies he didn't recruit.
No he's not .. and he also lacks integrity and self awareness.
He's so dumb he doesn't know how dumb he is .. Dunning Kruger in full effect..
Missing the tourney three years in a row is a fireable offense for any AD. But Fred’s supervisors don’t care about wins and losses so he is safe. Only at IU does this s**t fly.
Any? so if we go through the tourney records of the 353 other schools, every team that missed 3 tourneys fired the AD?
Clarification- at a “basketball school” like IU it should be a fireable offense.
Can you even begin to imagine what would happen at UK if this debacle was happening there? We all know what would occur. That’s why we’ll never achieve their level of success.
The issue isn’t the talent level. It was the intelligence. Deflections players had no basketball IQ and Miller couldn’t get rid of them. He’s still got at least one more year to deal with it. He opted to keep the low IQ recruits.
In hindsight he should have ditched them all and taken the academic tournament ban. But he thought he could still get that talent to the dance. He underestimated the retard level. I’ll give him a pass on that. Hopefully he’s coached the Crean out of them by now.
There’s no such thing as “low IQ players”. It’s just a terrible generalization of certain players to make an excuse for the coach. I can’t believe people believe that all of Crean’s recruits were idiots but Archie only recruits geniuses. It’s beyond ignorant and completely irrational.
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