Trump is now selling Bibles..
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Trump lacks not only character but also vision - - at least vision that extends beyond what he's able to see in the mirror. He won't positively impact any of those things.
That may be true. But we don’t know. We do know what Biden and crew did in year one. So if he golfs for four years and does nothing we’d be better off than activist social Biden and the year one f ups we spent three years trying to remedy
The volunteer work I do starts with recognizing ones character defects and making changes in how one treats the people around him. The result is a better life, usually in all phases... including finances. While politics isn't an area we deal with at all, supporting someone like Trump would be contradictory to everything we work toward.
We do know. He and top advisors have made it clear. It'll be revenge, harassment of opponents, denigration of democratic institutions, a further weakening of the rule of law, and chaos for four years.
Addicts. I used to have the addiction agencies as a panel at United way. Good stuff. They are very different from what you see at the food banks, employment connection, etc
And I think that’s hyperbole. He’s a fat old man who won’t do shit imo. But again politicians spending four years going after other politicians is more palatable than free everything attacking cops open borders and the rest of the progressive wishlist etc
It seems the level of fear has been ratcheting up around here recently. There may be online suicides before November is over. Lefties jumping from buildings, screaming, Trump is coming Trump is coming.
It's palpable!
It won't be just other politicians.
It'll be a shitshow that will make his first term look like a highly functioning administration.
There’s no scenario that could be worse than Biden year one when able to do shit.
The irony is that you guys immerse yourselves in the fear-mongering every day. I know because I more than occasionally listen to and read the same shit that MAGA does. It's nothing but fear-mongering. Keeps you guys enraged and engaged.
Point to a biblical teaching that said birth started at conception?
Religious people used to largely be pro choice until conservatives vilified it.
So spare me your fake religious outrage
Politicians lie. Joe does his fair share.
If I’m somehow less of a Christian if I vote for a liar then I’m never gonna be able to vote again.
This whole “you’re not really a Christian if you vote for Trump” stuff is idiotic.
I’m not voting for a pastor. I’m voting for who I feel like best represents my and the nations interests.
Life begins at conception. If you want to claim the creator of the universe thinks life begins at 8 weeks or 12 weeks or 24 weeks, you do you.
I never said I was outraged. I responded to swman who claimed he sticks to his biblical teachings and claimed Jesus would vote for liberals who are for abortion. He of course went radio silent and hasn’t answered the question.
Those kind of figures always give me pause. How many of those 45 million are overweight? Most?
We’re the only country in the world where our supposedly food insecure have diabetes.
Where did I say you’re not a Christian if you vote for Trump? Not true at all. But Trump has become a demigod to a very large segment of the population, many of them evangelicals. Trump would be happy to sell out the church for a buck just like he’d sell anyone else. He’s less trustworthy than the average televangelist if that’s possible
They eat like shit but can’t always afford food. So when they can afford it they eat junk
Twinkies a hell of a lot cheaper than fruit
You can get a dozen bananas for the price of the family sized bag of Flamin hot Cheetos.
Bananas are an outlier. You can get a box of twinkees for $3.50. A little bin of blueberries is $5. Convenience. Lots of factors
If only it was just lying.
He tried to overturn an election he lost. Again, a sitting United States president tried to overturn an election he lost and unlawfully hold onto power. That was somehow in the nation's best interests? Do I even need to continue? I don't, but I will.
His charitable foundation was shut down because he was stealing from it.
His "university" was a scam that ripped off students and was forced to shut down.
Two of his business entities were convicted of 17 felonies.
His lawyers since Ray Cohn have, almost without exception, been unethical "fixers" and dirtbags. Michael Cohen is a convicted felon. Trump's CFO Allen Weisselberg is a convicted felon. Trump heads a corrupt business organization.
He ripped off contractors, subs, vendors and lawyers by refusing to pay them. In some cases, he brought frivolous litigation against creditors (alleging, for example, shoddy workmanship), forcing them to end their collection efforts because they couldn't afford to continue with the litigation.
At least two dozen former officials in his administration have publicly called him out for misconduct, with many declaring him unfit for office. These are people who worked with him and know him well. This is, at least in my memory, unprecedented in the American presidency.
This, of course, is just a partial list.
He has no principles. None. That's not just me talking. It's what his sister said about him.
But keep telling yourself that it's nothing but little lies.
Berries have always been more expensive but there are plenty of cheap fruits. Vegetables are practically free. Most white meat is fairly cheap.
And rice is a good caloric filler if you’re still not satiated. I understand the thought process behind people saying it’s expensive to eat healthy. Junk food is very calorie dense when you’re looking to fill your belly and Whole Foods are less so. Stuff like the below is in fact true.
But it stems from a poor understanding of nutrition and an unwillingness to prepare your own meals. The idea that you can’t get the same calories, in a healthier way, for less money is silly.
Agreed. There’s a movement amongst the nonprofits that food is medicine. Mirroring what you write and how through diet/nutrition people can get off certain meds etcBerries have always been more expensive but there are plenty of cheap fruits. Vegetables are practically free. Most white meat is fairly cheap.
And rice is a good caloric filler if you’re still not satiated. I understand the thought process behind people saying it’s expensive to eat healthy. Junk food is very calorie dense when you’re looking to fill your belly and Whole Foods are less so. Stuff like the below is in fact true.
But it stems from a poor understanding of nutrition and an unwillingness to prepare your own meals. The idea that you can’t get the same calories, in a healthier way, for less money is silly.
Where in any post did I say I favored abortion? Never did and never will. As a husband whose wife had to go through the death of multiple children deep into her pregnancies, we were thankful that she was able to get the medical treatment without further torment. One in particular still haunts us both 16 years later.
A more salient question for you might be where in the Bible does it say you can sexually assault women and grab them by the P***y because your Donald Trump. Where does it say you can cheat people ie Trump U and Trump Charity etc?
Got it. So Joes “little lies” are acceptable but other dishonesty is not.
Thats about what I figured.
Thanks for confirming.
As I said, it’s really really dumb.
I’d go so far to say that he isn’t a Christian. If the evangelical, Christian nationalists decided to abandon him and he felt he could get votes from and bilk Satanic cults with cheap merch, he’d be offering sacrifices on sound stages lit with candles and pentagrams faster than you could blink.
Both are abhorrent liars and neither is fit to be the leader of the free world
Because all lies are created equal? No lying is acceptable but there are most definitely degrees of unacceptable.
Do you think there is any difference between the person that lies once in a while vs a person that constantly lies? If those 2 people were the only 2 options, then which is preferred?
How about someone that lies because they misremembered something or misspoke vs the person that lies to hide a misdeed to purposely mislead others? If those 2 people were the only 2 options, then which is preferred?
Biden has been misspeaking for decades but a lot of the time it is pettily crap that doesn't gain him any advantage (i.e. no reason for it to be purposely lying).
And if i had to choose between that and someone that is constantly lying for personal benefit then I will go with the former.
You claimed you follow biblical teachings when voting. How does voting for a party that favors killing babies following those teachings?
Biden also sexually assaulted women and sniffs little kids. I didn’t vote for either of them because they’re both unfit to be President, spend too much, and are lying immoral pieces of shit.
I’ll add, I personally vote based on the politicians policies. I would have voted for Vivek who isn’t a Christian. Lastly, if someone was voting in 2016 for Trump based on their biblical teachings, voting for Trump was the right call. It led to the overturning of Roe vs Wade.
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Biden lies for personal benefit. To get people to think he can relate so he can get votes. Biden is a 50 year politician. Let that sink in. He’s campaigning. Always. All foam no beer. When he took office we learned almost immediately he had no idea how to govern. The consequences of his free pizza no homework policies. And it’s obvious in so many ways. Demanding the infrastructure work be made in America without the foggiest idea of where stuff is actually made.
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