he'd probably be better off to stop making announcements of any kind
"better to remain silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"
This is all that really needs to be said about anti-vaxxers....
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"better to remain silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"
Uh oh
www.yahoo.com
WHO Lists Mu as 'Variant of Interest'
The World Health Organization is monitoring a new coronavirus variant called “mu” — known by scientists as B.1.621 — and has added it to the list of “variants of interest” because of preliminary evidence it can evade antibodies. Dr. Anthony Fauci, the top U.S. infectious disease expert, said the...
he'd probably be better off to stop making announcements of any kind
Where were you for the past 4 yrs? Opening his mouth and revealing he was a fool was a daily occurrence from the previous tenant of the WH...
Well, perhaps the issue is that we can expect more of that given the state of our politics.
Who's candidate it is just defines who does the cheerleading/criticizing. We need more folks willing to analyze for the content/wisdom of a policy rather than cheerlead/criticize for the sport of politics.
i can't disagree
trump=narcissist, ego-maniac, loud mouthed bully
biden=50 yr. swamp fixture, two faced, slap you on the back, say whatever the moment requires, career bullshitter with worsening dementia that wasn't very smart in the first place
i didn't vote for him in 16' (or hrc for that matter, i think i wrote in donald duck or something...i forget), but i did in 20'
the difference being while i cringe at much of what he says/said, he did actually do some things i agreed with
i can't say that for joe (or who is ever making the decisions for him)
the quality of our political "leaders" on both sides leaves much to be desired
paraphrasing dr.jb
So... though Trump really hated immigrants, the [N-words], and all them mouthy [insert derogatory term for women], I really liked that wall-building stuff and how he owned the libs.
So... though Trump really hated immigrants, the [N-words], and all them mouthy [insert derogatory term for women], I really liked that wall-building stuff and how he owned the libs.
Ennhhh . . . I'm not sure putting words in the guy's mouth is the right thing to do here . . . clearly he didn't say that. What's troubling isn't what he could have said - i.e., your post - it's more that he didn't say anything about what Trump actually did that he liked. Leaving a vacuum like that begs for someone else to define a poster . . . which is what you've done.
Let him hang himself with his own rope . . . ask him what it was that Trump did that he liked, then pounce.
Or what Trump did that was so despicable I would have voted for Donald Duck = Attempt to destroy our democratic process with lies and suggestions that the other side would cheat. He began in 2016, doubled-down in 2020.
There are plenty of Pubs that are pro-vaccine, including Trumpers. Look at a state like Idaho, which will see a pro-Trump incumbent Governor (Little) who is pro-vaccine, face off against a pro-Trump (and Kristi Noem wannabee) incumbent Lt Governor Janet McGeachin, who wants his job. McGeachin is not only anti-vax, she is virulently anti-mask. In fact, earlier this year when Little was out of state for a couple of days, she took it upon herself to issue a statewide ban on mask mandates (via Executive order), which Little canceled as soon as he returned.
She is now countering Little's pro-vax, mask-encouraging messaging with her own brand of anti-vax lunacy...And if those two going at it within the Statehouse itself wasn't enough, Ammon Bundy is also a declared candidate for the GOP nomination.
Apparently, Idaho has no residency requirement to run for office since Bundy has no Idaho address. In addition to his earlier brushes with authorities on public land in Nevada, invading a wildlife refuge in Oregon, and accusing the LDS Church hierarchy of "socialism" in Utah, he's also been busy this past year getting himself arrested twice for trespassing at the Idaho Statehouse. Apparently, he feels that having been a temporary resident of a Boise jail renders him qualified to run for Governor...
Another pro-Trump Pub trying to encourage folks to get the vaccine is GA physician John Cowan. He's the guy who lost to MTG in the GOP Primary, ahead of the 2022 election. What makes him noteworthy is that he actually set up a mobile vaccine station on the site of an MTG rally.
Despite an impassioned speech from Kemp urging the crowd to get vaccinated, the total amount of people they were able to vaccinate was zero. Which IMHO, seems to say a lot about the type of folks who would consider listening to MTG as a worthwhile endeavor...
She is now countering Little's pro-vax, mask-encouraging messaging with her own brand of anti-vax lunacy...And if those two going at it within the Statehouse itself wasn't enough, Ammon Bundy is also a declared candidate for the GOP nomination.
Apparently, Idaho has no residency requirement to run for office since Bundy has no Idaho address. In addition to his earlier brushes with authorities on public land in Nevada, invading a wildlife refuge in Oregon, and accusing the LDS Church hierarchy of "socialism" in Utah, he's also been busy this past year getting himself arrested twice for trespassing at the Idaho Statehouse. Apparently, he feels that having been a temporary resident of a Boise jail renders him qualified to run for Governor...
Another pro-Trump Pub trying to encourage folks to get the vaccine is GA physician John Cowan. He's the guy who lost to MTG in the GOP Primary, ahead of the 2022 election. What makes him noteworthy is that he actually set up a mobile vaccine station on the site of an MTG rally.
Despite an impassioned speech from Kemp urging the crowd to get vaccinated, the total amount of people they were able to vaccinate was zero. Which IMHO, seems to say a lot about the type of folks who would consider listening to MTG as a worthwhile endeavor...
Herd immunity as a status can be achieved through any combination of the various ways to gain individual immunity - i.e., contracting a disease or getting vaccinated for it, for the most part (there are other possible slightly different ways available, depending on the disease and your location in history).
Herd immunity as a strategy is purely a function of vaccines. The goal is to get enough people vaccinated to stop community spread, because the only other available path to herd immunity is for everyone to contract the disease, and that's what we're tying to avoid.
So it really depends on how someone is using the phrase. Before Covid, no one ever even talked about herd immunity in any context other than vaccinations. Talking about trying to reach herd immunity with natural infection by a disease is roughly the equivalent of ending gun violence by shooting at each other until we run out of bullets. Sure, the survivors never have to worry about being shot again, but we only got there by allowing to happen that which we were trying to prevent in the first place.
And that was my problem (or perception) with the Trump Administration’s covid response. Toward the last half of 2020, their messaging sounded like, “Herd immunity is needed, but don’t get the vaccine. The strong will survive”.
The CDC recommends Ivermectin and Albendazole to doctors health screening legal aliens from the Middle East, Asia, North Africa, Latin America and the Caribbean. Doctors in Indiana will prescribe the drug, and local pharmacies will fill their scripts.Thanks for the laugh, Mas-sa-nazi. Here's the inconvenient truth you're ignoring. Covidiots like yourself are buying a livestock dewormer (Ivermectin) at feed stores and using it themselves, or giving it to their kids with, shall we say, less than optimal results.
Arkansans poisoning themselves with Ivermectin
Arkansas Poison Control has seen an increase in calls from people who have been taking Ivermectin.www.4029tv.com
Your attempts to mislead people are pitiful, but you deserve no pity.
Ivermectin is for parasitic diseases, not Covid. You can't possibly be this stupid, so I'm assuming this is some kind of a shtick on your part. But it's neither clever nor funny.
FDA, CDC, doctors warn not to use ivermectin for COVID treatment, prevention
Doctors, pharmacists, the federal government and several healthcare organizations warn against using ivermectin, a parasite drug commonly used on animals, as a treatment for COVID-19.
You're a ****ing brainwashed lazy moron. I don't know why I bother.Ivermectin is for parasitic diseases, not Covid. You can't possibly be this stupid, so I'm assuming this is some kind of a shtick on your part. But it's neither clever nor funny.
FDA, CDC, doctors warn not to use ivermectin for COVID treatment, prevention
Doctors, pharmacists, the federal government and several healthcare organizations warn against using ivermectin, a parasite drug commonly used on animals, as a treatment for COVID-19.abc7chicago.com
Dr. Haruo Ozaki has written about the value of Ivermectin for the past two years.
Some African countries provide annual doses of Ivermectin.
Comparing these countries with those who do not do so reveals the truth in the matter.
Those countries who provided Ivermectin annually have experienced a flu incidence of 134 cases per 100,000, and a death rate of 2.2 per 100k.
Those not doing so experienced a flu incidence of 950 cases per 100k, over 7 times the rate of providing countries.
Those not doing so experienced a death rate of 29.3 deaths per 100k, over 13 times times the rate of providing countries.
Ivermectin is effective in treating influenza.
And you are a dolt.
It's not Bowl's fault he's a dolt - he's just like Biden - repearing and doing what he's told.
Ivermectin misuse adding to Covid pressures at Oklahoma hospitals, doctor says
Jason McElyea says people overdosing on anti-parasitic drug that some people believe without evidence can cure or treat Covid
Huge study supporting ivermectin as Covid treatment withdrawn over ethical concerns
The preprint endorsing ivermectin as a coronavirus therapy has been widely cited, but independent researchers find glaring discrepancies in the data
The guardian...Ivermectin misuse adding to Covid pressures at Oklahoma hospitals, doctor says
Jason McElyea says people overdosing on anti-parasitic drug that some people believe without evidence can cure or treat Covidwww.theguardian.com
Huge study supporting ivermectin as Covid treatment withdrawn over ethical concerns
The preprint endorsing ivermectin as a coronavirus therapy has been widely cited, but independent researchers find glaring discrepancies in the data
Riiiightt!
They are both recovered and plan on getting booster.
If your vaccinated and also had Covid, does it make sense to get the booster?
Why not? If it's offered? No one knows what the future holds. I want all the protection I can get.
This video explains everything we need to know regarding Ivermectin as a Covid treatment. I will be happy if a study comes along that shows anything that can be proven to be an effective treatment for Covid. That includes Ivermectin or any other drug. Unfortunately, that has not been proven to be the case.
As of now, the very best protection against covid is being vaccinated. Period. End of story. I'm amazed that people are dead set on ingesting these sorts of things when the very best answer is right down the street at their local CVS, is free, and takes about 20 minutes.
Why Are Floridians Lining Up for Hours to Get Antibody Treatments? — Slate
The treatment vs. vaccination debate is not helping anyone fight COVID—or end the pandemic.
Anti-vaxxers were a pretty serious threat before Covid. Covid just provided a perfect storm where the opportunistic grift met political intransigence/ and or gullibility...
Why Are Floridians Lining Up for Hours to Get Antibody Treatments? — Slate
The treatment vs. vaccination debate is not helping anyone fight COVID—or end the pandemic.apple.news
Notice how she discusses the prevalent belief among anti-vaxxers that THEY have "secret knowledge" that's somehow evaded medical professionals who didn't get their degree on Facebook...
Some real intelligent folks in the anti-vax community. Let's refuse a FREE vaccine that is proven to save lives, and fork over $200 for a phony piece of cardboard that allows you to go everywhere actually vaccinated people go? THAT certainly isn't "sheeplike" DWS...
Woman accused of selling 250 fake COVID-19 vaccine cards over Instagram
Thirteen people who purchased the cards -- all of whom are believed to work in frontline and essential-employee settings, including hospitals and nursing homes - were also charged.
The story of Billy and Bobby Ford, identical twins who worked together at Bobby's Auto repair shop in FL. Along with the other employees at the shop and their 83 yr old mother, they all got covid. The employees were mainly under 30, and 4 of them along with Bobby and his Mom were all vaccinated...
Bobby was the last one to get covid and had a fever for 3 days. Many of the employees said it was the worst illness they had ever experienced, and the shop shut down for 10 days. Billy started feeling ill on July 22 and was originally diagnosed with flu by a medical provider.
But by the next day, he was in the Cleveland Clinic with covid. He died on Aug 14, but to his credit was urging others to get the vaccine he had refused. Bobby has become a crusader, urging unvaccinated friends and relatives to get vaccinated...
But misinformation is a serious foe, as illustrated by this encounter with a woman who came into his shop recently.
"The other day, he said, someone came into the shop saying she was sorry Billy died. She then told Bobby her girlfriend’s boyfriend said the vaccines have tracking devices."
Identical twins: One was vaccinated for COVID, the other wasn't; how'd they fare?
COVID vaccine lesson? Identical twins Billy and Bobby Ford of Vero Beach took different tacks on getting inoculated. The result might be instructive.
From what I've read, the guidance is to wait until about 6 weeks after you've recovered from having had COVID, then get vaccinated. https://whyy.org/articles/what-immunity-did-having-covid-19-give-me-do-i-still-need-a-vaccine/
Regarding the boosters question, my reading of the literature is that a booster might be beneficial. Here's a quote from another WHYY article:
"It’s going to top off the antibodies a little bit, they increase your protection slightly, and it really doesn’t have a considerable downside, because if you didn’t have a severe adverse event after two doses, the likelihood of having a severe adverse event after a third dose is much lower,” Wherry said.
What will a COVID vaccine booster do? How do we know the timing is right?
As the federal government plans COVID-19 booster shots to strengthen waning immunity, WHYY’s Health Desk Help Desk shares what you need to know.
whyy.org
The topping off of the antibodies is the key point here. Rather than run out of gas on a trip, you top off the tank. That principle is used here: top off the antibodies so you have as much protection as you can get.
That said, you ought to consult with your doctor. I had a good night's sleep last night, but I didn't stay in a Holiday Inn Express.
This has proven to be a complete fabrication originally contrived by Rolling Stone and lapped up by the progressive dolts of the left, including Mandow and multiple networks.
Turns out the quoted MD had not worked at that hospital for over two months and was employed by a contractor.
The Hospital denies his false claims, that "covid patients" are being denied care, as injuries from people using commercially available Ivermectin to self-medicate.
The Hospital denies treating ANY cases of Ivermectin overdose, or diverting any ill persons to other facilities.
Somebody is a liar.
They couldn’t even get a reasonable picture to support their lie. Oklahomans in jackets in the heat of summer waiting in line.
"Turns out the quoted MD had not worked at that hospital for over two months and was employed by a contractor."
The Dr says he was misquoted, but you're basically doing the same thing and stretching the truth a bit here...
"That hospital" is NOT even an accurate indicator of where the Doctor was discussing, because he knew he hadn't worked at "that hospital" (NHS Sequoia) for the past 2 mos and was NOT including them. They just preemptively decided to distance themselves from his statement, but it really wasn't necessary since he has worked at various hospitals during the last 2 mos and was basically talking about the ones he had worked at in that period...
Maybe your source didn't specify the difference or maybe you suffer from issues with reading comprehension, but this is how the local Oklahoma news station reported exactly what Dr. McElyea said...
“As the story ran, it sounded like all of Oklahoma hospitals were filled with people who have overdosed on ivermectin and that’s not the case,” McElyea said. “The cases we are seeing, people who are overdosing on ivermectin, they are taking full strength cattle doses and coming in and that is something that could be avoided.”
Oklahoma Doctor At Center Of Viral Ivermectin Story Says Report Is Wrong
The doctor at the center of the story told News 9 he was misquoted, and the story was wrong.
Now back to your post...
"The Hospital denies his false claims, that "covid patients" are being denied care, as injuries from people using commercially available Ivermectin to self-medicate.
The Hospital denies treating ANY cases of Ivermectin overdose, or diverting any ill persons to other facilities."
You are really stretching the limits of accuracy here. Your statement is correct with regards to NHS Sequoyah (where McElyeah has not worked for two months). But it's a total lie with regards to other hospitals he did work at, esp the Inegris Group...
"INEGRIS Hospital said in a statement McElyea is an employee of an agency that staffs emergency departments throughout the United States including several emergency departments in rural Oklahoma.
“What we can confirm is that we have seen a handful of ivermectin patients in our emergency rooms, including INTEGRIS Grove Hospital. And while our hospitals are not filled with people who have taken ivermectin, such patients are adding to the congestion already caused by COVID-19 and other emergencies,” the hospital group said"
Again the only mention of NHS Sequoyah (which you characterize as "that hospital")comes from NHS Sequoyah itself. Not from Dr. McElyea, or any of the sources that exaggerated his claims from "handful" to full of. You're trying to make it sound like it's something completely made up, and that's just as false as the idea that it included every hospital...
Had covid? Get vaccinated!
www.forbes.com
36% Of Those Who Had Covid-19 Didn’t Develop Antibodies, Study Says
This is further evidence that you should get vaccinated regardless of whether you've had a Covid-19 coronavirus infection previously.
www.forbes.com
What's the percentage of those who've had the vaccine don't develp antibodies?Had covid? Get vaccinated!
36% Of Those Who Had Covid-19 Didn’t Develop Antibodies, Study Says
This is further evidence that you should get vaccinated regardless of whether you've had a Covid-19 coronavirus infection previously.
"Now a study of 72 people probably wouldn’t qualify as a gigantic study, depending on what you may consider and refer to as gigantic."
LMAO! But you only believe in controlled, double blind studies, right?
With every post, you prove what a fraud you are.
The article is from FORBES, and the author is on staff there. The quotes you found funny are his, and he goes on to cite several other studies as well...
You seem to be trying to claim it's anti-GOP Propaganda when in reality it is a piece published in a pro-Trump magazine, owned by a pro-Trump GOP Businessman and politician...
That's a unique recollection...!
The way the rest of the sane world remembers "the last half of 2020" is both Biden and Harris saying they wouldn't get the jab because they didn't trust Trump... That nonsense was bolstered by the usual media suspects parroting the Biden team's talking points...
I wonder how many lives were lost because of their bs...???☠💀☠️
I suppose this must be the newest "repeat the lie often enough and we'll get enough voters to buy it" move from the DNC......🙄😣
No, they said very precisely that they would trust it on the recommendation of doctors and medical professionals, but would not trust it if Trump rammed an approval through, over scientific objections, to meet a pre-election deadline for the purpose of winning votes.
How many times a day do we have to correct this lie, with videos, transcripts, stories, etc.
Many times, apparently.
You lie.
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