Republican debate thread
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I have no doubt that there are multiple candidates on that stage who can beat Biden. We are fools if we roll with trump
Mike Pence is the most sincere man on earth. The guy needs to lighten up a bit and laugh on occasion.
Vivek is a walking bullet point.
Tell them what they’ve won Johnny!
Tell them what they’ve won Johnny!
Pence is absolute proof we should be terrified of artificial intelligence.
Hot takes:
1. Haley's the smartest
2. Christie is the choice for "traditional" Republicans
3. DeSantis is still smarmy
4. Ramaswamy needs to dial it down to about 8
5. Scott needs to dial it up to at least 4
6. I think Pence really believes he holds the religion trump card, but playing it will prove him wrong
7. Poor Hutchinson and Burgum were simply out of their element
1. Haley's the smartest
2. Christie is the choice for "traditional" Republicans
3. DeSantis is still smarmy
4. Ramaswamy needs to dial it down to about 8
5. Scott needs to dial it up to at least 4
6. I think Pence really believes he holds the religion trump card, but playing it will prove him wrong
7. Poor Hutchinson and Burgum were simply out of their element
He has social interaction issues - perhaps therapy is in order?
I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if he is on the autism spectrum. His interactions with people are strained, to say the least.
Fvcking vaccines.
John King's hot take: Haley has all the right answers, but they just aren't answers the GOP base wants to hear right now.
Smartest is complicated. Polished. Common sense. But she’s a tater. Hard to be smartest. Vivek and others are probably pretty damn smart. Just weird. Goofy. Whatever.
Good point. When I think "smartest" politician, I'm thinking the ones with genuine gravitas, not just the good salesmen. Vivek showed himself to be a bit too much P. T. Barnum tonight.
You might be mildly surprised to find out Pence actually won the contest for mic time:
Mike has been around for quite awhile at several different levels. People don't like him but he is an experienced politician and he knew how to get himself into the discussion even when he wasn't being invited.
Dramatic pauses and his slow pace help. He did assist in the Vivek beat down.
I’m full on board the Haley train.
I've been saying the same two things about Haley for years now:
1. She'd be a good President.
2. She'll never win a GOP primary.
I think #2 may no longer be true.
More hot takes.
1. Debate “moments” mean zilch.
2. Hands up questions should be banned.
3. A stage with a group of people giving sound bites with limited time is a waste of time.
4. Debates have become a media shindig and are not informative.
The best and most informative candidate event in recent memory was Rick Warren’s back to back interviews of McCain and Obama in 2008. We need more of that.
FWIW I listened to such an interview of Governor Bugum. He’s a solid guy and would be a very. good chief executive.
1. Debate “moments” mean zilch.
2. Hands up questions should be banned.
3. A stage with a group of people giving sound bites with limited time is a waste of time.
4. Debates have become a media shindig and are not informative.
The best and most informative candidate event in recent memory was Rick Warren’s back to back interviews of McCain and Obama in 2008. We need more of that.
FWIW I listened to such an interview of Governor Bugum. He’s a solid guy and would be a very. good chief executive.
There were two Indian Americans and an African American on that stage tonight, but do go on.
You also said something about her sexual adventures. Was that in pizzagate territory?
I'm not sure what that means. Were the accusations true? I have no idea. Her accusers were clearly politically motivated. But I did think the accusations would hold her back. I did not believe Republican voters would be as forgiving of a straying woman as they would a straying man.
But, the fact is, South Carolina elected her despite the accusations, and they seem to have mostly gone away. So I am no longer convinced those accusations would be a meaningful hindrance.
Good. I like it well tamed with no drapes. Although I'd be fine with 80s style.
More on Haley: her post-debate interview on Hannity was interesting. She defended her take on abortion, and then addressed a question about Trump. Hannity asked her if she really believed Trump would lose to Biden, and she said yes, and he pressed her to say Trump was being politically persecuted, and she agreed. She argued that the DOJ has been weaponized against Trump, and he can't win because of it, but they (the GOP) need to win to end this weaponization, and they can use what Trump went through to do that. In short, she promised to make him a martyr. In her mind, he can't win, but he can be the rallying point to help her win.
Edit: Also, I noticed she changed. Another one of those things that I think are different between men and women. The men are all wearing the same suit at tie they wore on stage. She has to put on a new outfit before she sits down for one-on-ones.
Edit: Also, I noticed she changed. Another one of those things that I think are different between men and women. The men are all wearing the same suit at tie they wore on stage. She has to put on a new outfit before she sits down for one-on-ones.
There was an actual debate tonight? I was too busy grilling pork chops and asparagus.
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