That's what's wrong. Too concerned about a sliver of the public rather than appealing to the largely silent majority. Talk jobs and health care and common sense on the border and in foreign affairs. That's what wins, not identity politics and grievances. 2016 proved that.
"I view myself as a bridge"
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I just want a winner, Mark, someone who can kick Trump's sorry ass to the curb. If it's Shapiro, bring him on. I just have my doubts. The Dems are divided on Israel, and there is anti-semitism in both parties.
There are a number of threads addressing that. Some of Trump's top advisers have already publicly laid out plans for another Trump presidency. It's no mystery, and it's not pretty.
Hank so do I, IN is a gop state. but isnt it about time we elect someone honest with good character who could do the job.
He would send the SF after his enemies. He would become a dictator. It would be the end of democracy. Fascism rules.
Right, he has to voluntarily drop out though. If he madly clings to power, there is no relief.
Your mistake is assuming that just because you see the Biden/Harris choice as fitting that criteria that it somehow means that I see it the same way. I do not.
If I stay home, or vote for a Libertarian whack job as I've done in the past, you'll insist that it's a vote for Trump. At the same time my Trump-loving brother-in-law will insist that the same action (or inaction) is a vote for Biden. But neither one of you have my vote so my lack of voting isn't an implied vote for either candidate.
Yeah - I recently heard someone say that LBJ stepped down in March of an election year. The Dems didn’t win that election, but very likely would have if RFK hadn’t been assassinated.
It's possible that RFK would have won, but we'll never know. Nixon won in a landslide. Twice.
your vote is your own, if you stay at home and do not vote. its like voting for trump. Biden needs every vote , i will say this the trump vote is very energize because they believe we stole the last vote.
Rubbish. 4 more years of appointing judges and possibly more Supreme Court judges. 4 more years of lying to the people, waking up every day to see what stupid shit he has done, absolutely no safeguards since he won’t be trying to win another election, but Lord knows he might just appoint himself dictator for life, being surrounded by absolute idiots because no one wants to work for him who is decent, moral , or intelligent. 4 years of a revenge tour of everyone who he feels has slighted him in the last four years and more. So much more.
No judges could be as bad as Biden’s. Can’t define a woman. Biden’s world leads to the Ivy League presidents reduced to gibberish for fear of not being perfectly pc. Nothing is worse than biden world. Nothing
Sounds horrible.
Will gas, and literally everything, be somewhat affordable?
Will we have to worry about some third world shitholes starting WW3 because our CIC was mentally incapacitated?
2019 was glorious compared to the current shitlib created depression.
I live in PA. Shapiro’s chest thumping and bragging are insufferable.
I keep holding out hope that Haley can be the nominee. But I am also an IU football season ticket holder.
She's a moron. Not they it's a stumbling block to being President based upon our last couple
Why is she Harris a moron, she is not a rapist, insurrectionist, racist, and trying to be a wanna-be dictator now trump is a moron.
. . . and resigned in his second term because he couldn't help himself in the second election.
Kinda eerie about how history repeats itself, huh? Of course Trump didn't resign . . . he doesn't have the decency for that. I'm talking about the presumption of GOP election wins . . . If they'd only learn to be patient, instead of wanting power right now . . . .
I dunno . . . seems to me we all do a lot of bitching about the other party . . . I guess because negative campaigning works . . . what I'd like is for someone to put a "I'm for" message out there, instead of relying on solely an "I'm not X" message.
God forbid that I ever become a Reagan fan, but his campaign at least had an "I'm for tax cuts" and "it's morning in America" messages. People could vote whether they wanted that. As it currently is we've got nothing to vote for.
The market likes a independent judiciary. I think things change once Trump gets the nomination.
Indiana, and other states, went for Obama because the notion of first black president in US history was viewed as a novelty. The next black candidate will have a rougher go at it, novelty having worn off. Similarly, Kennedy got a lot of extra votes just for eating fish on Fridays.
Bump.
I started this thread months before the debate.
In light of Biden's debate debacle and now the Trump shooting, there is no way - - repeat, no way - - Biden/Harris will beat Trump. That said, I can see the Dems completely fvcking this up. Yes, I know it's ultimately up to Biden but someone with influence needs to read him the riot act - - "You can't win, old man. It's over."
I started this thread months before the debate.
In light of Biden's debate debacle and now the Trump shooting, there is no way - - repeat, no way - - Biden/Harris will beat Trump. That said, I can see the Dems completely fvcking this up. Yes, I know it's ultimately up to Biden but someone with influence needs to read him the riot act - - "You can't win, old man. It's over."
Biden was a bridge alright..., a bridge to nowhere... The guy has been the 2nd most divisive President in this century...
Lol.
Let's go over the list of presidents this century.
Clinton
George W.
Obama
Trump
Biden
Ok. I agree! Biden's the second most divisive. But it's a very distant second after Trump.
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I totally agree with everything you said here. I do think what Trump says and does at the RNC convention is key. I think the MAGA crowd is going to go off the charts crazy when he comes out on stage. Like several minute standing ovation, him basking in the glory, triumph sort of thing. And to be honest, that's probably par for the course, regardless of party. Luckily we don't have a large enough sample size to compare it to.
I think if he hasn't learned anything from this and rolls right into his lies and vitriolic speech I think that goodwill and sympathy anyone has for him will start to wane over the coming weeks and that'll end up being a good thing for Democrats. If they can get someone else in on the top of the tickets soon after that I still think the Democrats have a shot.
I read that his entire speech was re-written after the shooting. Instead of going after Biden, it will be a plea for unity.
Look for his divisiveness and vitriol to return next week.
Dems definitely still have a chance with, as you said, someone other than Biden. There are still almost four months remaining in the campaign. That's an eternity in politics. Lots can still happen.
To your point, someone has to get to Biden to make him understand what's a stake. It's maddening that he/his inner circle won't acknowledge what's best for the country.
Him sitting back in Delaware next January feeling good about doing the best he could do isn't going to cut it and won't be any type of good consolation.
Bill Maher has been calling him Ruth Bader Biden for a long time. I wish he would have just announced he wouldn't seek a second term last summer and someone like Josh Shapiro was tapped.
Speaking of Maher, did you see it last Friday? He gave Kevin McCarthy all kinds of shit. I don't think we'll see him on that show again any time soon.
The Ben Shapiro/Bakari Sellers exchange was entertaining.
A non-vote is a vote for Trump is almost as dumb as the Democracy is at risk platform. A non vote is a non-vote. The democratic is party is one of the most evil criminal organizations in the world with their war efforts and Taxation is theft activities. Nobody should buy into their propaganda about whose a threat to Democracy unless they admit that they are that threat.
The Dems screwed the pooch by not dumping him two years ago when the steep decline started. Any reasonable choice would beat trump but they forked up big time. Now we are stuck with two horrific choices if he stays.
If he presses the trade policies he is talking about, inflation in the US will be back and the markets will suffer.
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