Poor Loser Trump -- loses again

[outside shooter]

Mueller concluded that there wasn’t enough evidence to prove collusion.

Mueller concluded that there wasn't enough evidence to prove criminal conspiracy.

"Collusion" is not a criminal charge. The collusion that indeed took place was detemined not to warrant a criminal conspiracy charge, in part because of a standing protocol of not charging a sitting president with a crime.

The collusion hoax is the belief that Trump did not collude with Russia, on the basis that he was never convicted of collusion, though that is something you can't be convicted of. It's like declaring that Trump has never farted, since he never has been convicted of farting.

It was a brilliant red herring to throw out there, that he wasn't convicted of something for which you literally cannot be convicted. All the rubes swallowed it, hook, line, and sinker.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

Hmmmm...... that must be why over 900 move to Florida every day.

919 new Floridians every day

Florida's growing by nearly 1,000 people a day — about half are foreign-born immigrants and half are from other U.S. states.

www.floridatrend.com

He isn't why. Retirees are less affected by some of the nutjob decisions he has made about schools etc.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

Right, unfit for President. All we had was low inflation, control over the borders, great unemployment % for all groups, no wars, deregulation, low gas prices... yeah unfit. Today's world has the really fit President.

You conveniently leave out 80% of his legacy.

...and we have a shitty POTUS right now, it was part of the cost of getting trump the hell out.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

And yet he was a very good President by any measure.

Your 'evidence' was manufactured by a liberal meeting desparate to get Hillary elected.

C'mon man, you are too smart to believe this nonsense.

Yes, of course the liberal media was obsessed with him but my god, he handed them more than they needed to trash him 24/7.

Look away, there is a future for the Republican party once they cut this ****ing cancer out.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Good post and a lot to unpack there. I often wonder what happens when automation takes us to a place where more education and training is no longer the solution. While not automation, even Wall Street research and basic legal legal work can be sent oversees.

After my mom's last stroke, we talked to a neurologist on a camera from another state in terms of reading initial results.

Possible solutions - more workers with shorter workweeks? Universal Basic Income? The world is going to come to an interesting crossroad.

I agree that the world is coming to a crossroad. Here's one factory by way of example. 2,500 unskilled laborers. Cut and sew. They produce for Puma, Under Armour, Lululemon, etc. There are tens of thousands of these factories all over China, Central America, Haiti, Mexico, Vietnam, Pakistan, and on and on. All of this work can be automated and is in the process of being automated. What on Earth will these unskilled people do. And where are they supposed to get training.

I liked the idea of basic income but I feel like we saw it to a degree during the pandemic and it contributed to inflation. Maybe means tested during normal times. I don't know. And yeah re your mom. Borders are becoming less necessary. Changing world.

I hope your mom is doing okay. Strokes and cancer feel like they are on the rise. Yuck.

Zentrix

ZENTRIX es una empresa de confección de paquete completo, especializada en los mercados de lencería y ropa deportiva.

www.zentrix.com.mx

 

[bub-rub]

Good post and a lot to unpack there. I often wonder what happens when automation takes us to a place where more education and training is no longer the solution. While not automation, even Wall Street research and basic legal legal work can be sent oversees.

After my mom's last stroke, we talked to a neurologist on a camera from another state in terms of reading initial results.

Possible solutions - more workers with shorter workweeks? Universal Basic Income? The world is going to come to an interesting crossroad.

a “robot tax” is surely coming

 

[Bowlmania]

she’s far too busy spending his money

Does he have any? I think it's more likely he's over 65 and sitting at home anxiously awaiting his Social Security distribution each month. He's on this board literally 24/7; way too much time on his hands.

Frankly, it's hard to believe anything he says. About a year ago, he was masquerading as a moderate. Hated Trump; wanted him disqualified from ever holding office again. Loved Pete. Now, he couldn't care less about Jan 6, mocks posters for "Trump obsession" (conveniently ignoring, of course, that Trump remains the most powerful figure in the Republican Party and the leader of a cult) and hates "virtue-signaling" Pete. His biggest fans on the board are the far-right wackadoodles and the filthy, classless poster who brings up the "Russian Collusion Hoax" literally every day. Quite a crew he leads.

 

[Crayfish57]

Does he have any? I think it's more likely he's over 65 and sitting at home anxiously awaiting his Social Security distribution each month. He's on this board literally 24/7; way too much time on his hands.

Frankly, it's hard to believe anything he says. About a year ago, he was masquerading as a moderate. Hated Trump; wanted him disqualified from ever holding office again. Loved Pete. Now, he couldn't care less about Jan 6, mocks posters for "Trump obsession" (conveniently ignoring, of course, that Trump remains the most powerful figure in the Republican Party and the leader of a cult) and hates "virtue-signaling" Pete. His biggest fans on the board are the far-right wackadoodles and the filthy, classless poster who brings up the "Russian Collusion Hoax" literally every day. Quite a crew he leads.

Seriously, how often do you come out of your basement and breath fresh air?

 

[iuwclurker]

Does he have any? I think it's more likely he's over 65 and sitting at home anxiously awaiting his Social Security distribution each month. He's on this board literally 24/7; way too much time on his hands.

Frankly, it's hard to believe anything he says. About a year ago, he was masquerading as a moderate. Hated Trump; wanted him disqualified from ever holding office again. Loved Pete. Now, he couldn't care less about Jan 6, mocks posters for "Trump obsession" (conveniently ignoring, of course, that Trump remains the most powerful figure in the Republican Party and the leader of a cult) and hates "virtue-signaling" Pete. His biggest fans on the board are the far-right wackadoodles and the filthy, classless poster who brings up the "Russian Collusion Hoax" literally every day. Quite a crew he leads.

I’m over the put-down game. Reflects more on the putter than the downer. McM has been quite consistent as a poster based on the criteria I consider.

 

[Bowlmania]

I’m over the put-down game.

Then you're in the wrong place, friend. And my posts are tame compared to the garbage that regularly litters these threads.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Then you're in the wrong place, friend. And my posts are tame compared to the garbage that regularly litters these threads.

LOL if anyone is in the wrong place it's you with your unhinged meltdown because you lost yet another argument. Take a reading comp class and you might do better. Or overcome your trump obsession and gain a little perspective. Whatever

 

[Crayfish57]

Then you're in the wrong place, friend. And my posts are tame compared to the garbage that regularly litters these threads.

Another liberal assuaging himself in to believing he is superior to every one else.

 

[DANC]

Mueller concluded that there wasn’t enough evidence to prove collusion. He did find that the Russians interfered with the 2016 election to improve Trump’s chances. You agree with that, right, or is that a hoax? He found numerous incidents of obstruction of justice by Trump and associates. You know that, right, or another hoax? Mueller said he wouldn’t charge a sitting President with crimes due to DOJ policy not to prosecute, but many Trump associates were charged and convicted. You know that, right? Obviously not a hoax. He found Trump and his campaign knew the Russians were going to provide hacked information to Wikileaks before it got to Wikileaks. That may not have been collusion, but it sure as hell was improper. You agree with that, right, or a hoax? Collusion or not, the Russians were Trump’s political Allie’s during the election and Trump has acted like Putin is his buddy ever since. When in the hell did Republicans decide Russians were welcome political allies? Most Republicans didn’t, but Trumpsters sure as hell did. That’s shameful and embarrassing. Do you not agree?

The investigation was to find any collusion between Trump and Russia to influence the election.

He found none. Mueller and his team of Democrats found no collusion between Trump and Russians to influence the election.

It was all based on rumors in the Steele Dossier, and you believed it right up until the time it was proved false. It was all a hoax and it was totally partisan.

You can dance around it all you want - you were influenced by the liberal media and believed Trump colluded with Russians to influence the election. Right?

 

[Stuffshot]

I think you're right. I have no idea what those folks will do in so many poor countries. In the textile industry it's very easy to imagine a cut and sew factory, by way of example, with just a few employees instead of the hundreds or more that you see now. Ultrasonic welding and derivations thereof along with sublimation have replaced the need for so many workers. It'll only get worse going forward with tech. Hell soccer balls were once hand-sewn. Now they are largely thermally bonded, etc. So much of the manufacturing in poor countries is becoming automated. And you can tell people to get themselves educated but the reality is that with technology far fewer people are needed to exceed human output.

What's kind of interesting is to think what this will do for America. My company produces overseas because of the difference in labor. For any given product it is 4 to 10x more expensive for us to produce in the states. Labor is largely why. If labor is removed and automation carries the day maybe America will become more competitive in manufacturing in more industries

We've heard for years that the USA's standard of living will continue going down.

Is there any way the Third World's standard of living will not also go down (even below where it is now) ?

Everybody in the world wants TVs, cars, jobs, cell phones, killer clothes, killer shoes, apartments with plumbing, fine dining, etc. The US and the "West" are not the only ones putting demands on the world's resources to provide these things. (Just ask China.)

 

[Stuffshot]

You conveniently leave out 80% of his legacy.

...and we have a shitty POTUS right now, it was part of the cost of getting trump the hell out.

Yup.

And the next President that keeps Trump out will be better than Biden.

Biden would do the country/the Democrats a service by bowing out now. It's been done before.

If Biden bowed out, the rightwingers would have no one to falsely attack anymore.

 

[DANC]

Then you're in the wrong place, friend. And my posts are tame compared to the garbage that regularly litters these threads.

What a martyr! LMAO!

 

[Stuffshot]

I’m over the put-down game. Reflects more on the putter than the downer. McM has been quite consistent as a poster based on the criteria I consider.

Until recently.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

The investigation was to find any collusion between Trump and Russia to influence the election.

He found none. Mueller and his team of Democrats found no collusion between Trump and Russians to influence the election.

It was all based on rumors in the Steele Dossier, and you believed it right up until the time it was proved false. It was all a hoax and it was totally partisan.

You can dance around it all you want - you were influenced by the liberal media and believed Trump colluded with Russians to influence the election. Right?

Just about everything you said is false. It's not that you don't know anything, it's just that so much of what you know is false.

You didn't answer any of my questions.

 

[Crayfish57]

Yup.

And the next President that keeps Trump out will be better than Biden.

Biden would do the country/the Democrats a service by bowing out now. It's been done before.

If Biden bowed out, the rightwingers would have no one to falsely attack anymore.

So you are one of those people that doesn't like broccoli and eats dogsh*t instead. Makes sense.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Mueller concluded that there wasn't enough evidence to prove criminal conspiracy.

"Collusion" is not a criminal charge. The collusion that indeed took place was detemined not to warrant a criminal conspiracy charge, in part because of a standing protocol of not charging a sitting president with a crime.

The collusion hoax is the belief that Trump did not collude with Russia, on the basis that he was never convicted of collusion, though that is something you can't be convicted of. It's like declaring that Trump has never farted, since he never has been convicted of farting.

It was a brilliant red herring to throw out there, that he wasn't convicted of something for which you literally cannot be convicted. All the rubes swallowed it, hook, line, and sinker.

True. I typed all that from memory and you're right it was about criminal conspiracy. I don't get how the Trumpsters think having the Russians as political allies in a Presidential election is OK. That's definitely not Republican. It's not what patriotic Americans would think is OK.

 

[DANC]

Just about everything you said is false. It's not that you don't know anything, it's just that so much of what you know if false.

You didn't answer any of my questions.

Everything I said was true. You refuse to recognize the Mueller report as a result of a bogus investigation and bring out random points in the report to try to cast doubt on Trump by pointing to incidents other than the point of the investigation - to find Trump collusion with Russians to influence the campaign.

You're a smart guy, but you are a country-club Republican who would rather 'get along' with Democrats rather than fight for Republican principles.

You didn't answer my question.

 

[iuwclurker]

Until recently.

Nah. He’s a lawyer. Engage him in a spitball contest and he’ll buy a bigger straw, hit you with slimier spit balls, and relentlessly persist with a cornucopic amount at his disposal. That also hasn’t changed. The day a lawyer admits defeat is the day he loses his identity. 😉

 

[mcmurtry66]

We've heard for years that the USA's standard of living will continue going down.

Is there any way the Third World's standard of living will not also go down (even below where it is now) ?

Everybody in the world wants TVs, cars, jobs, cell phones, killer clothes, killer shoes, apartments with plumbing, fine dining, etc. The US and the "West" are not the only ones putting demands on the world's resources to provide these things. (Just ask China.)

I don't know. I don't know anything about tech. If unskilled labor is replaced what fills that void?

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Everything I said was true. You refuse to recognize the Mueller report as a result of a bogus investigation and bring out random points in the report to try to cast doubt on Trump by pointing to incidents other than the point of the investigation - to find Trump collusion with Russians to influence the campaign.

You're a smart guy, but you are a country-club Republican who would rather 'get along' with Democrats rather than fight for Republican principles.

You didn't answer my question.

You have to answer my questions about what was found by the investigation first.

By the way, the idea that the investigation was bogus and conducted by Democrats is all misinformation and lies from Trump and his cronies. It's not possible to count the number of Republicans Trump threw under the bus because they disagreed with him, noted lies as lies, or otherwise didn't show complete loyalty to him no matter what he said or did. That's what cults are like. You got into that cult and can't get out. I don't know what you'll do when Trump is no longer around, but I hope you come to your senses.

 

[UncleMark]

I’m over the put-down game. Reflects more on the putter than the downer. McM has been quite consistent as a poster based on the criteria I consider.

All the soccer bullshit makes him a douchebag as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Stuffshot]

True. I typed all that from memory and you're right it was about criminal conspiracy. I don't get how the Trumpsters thing having the Russians as political allies in a Presidential election is OK. That's definitely not Republican.

Today's Republicans are not really politically focused like William F. Buckley, George Will etc. They follow a little bit of the libertarian leanings of past Republicans but once they identify an issue as "Democrat," "progressive," "socialist," " commie," etc., they become totally obsessed with attacking that issue like it was their neighbor parking an inch over their driveway.

Republicans today seem to dream unrealistically for a return to the days of Ozzie and Harriet, or The Brady Bunch, or Happy Days or some other TV show of interest to their age group. No simplistic solutions will return us to such dreamy days, but they blame anyone who disagrees and post toothy emojis in ridicule. Democrats'' world vision isn't perfect either, but it's hardly as neanderthal as the GOP.

 

[Crayfish57]

Today's Republicans are not really politically focused like William F. Buckley, George Will etc. They follow a little bit of the libertarian leanings of past Republicans but once they identify an issue as "Democrat," "progressive," "socialist," " commie," etc., they become totally obsessed with attacking that issue like it was their neighbor parking an inch over their driveway.

Republicans today seem to dream unrealistically for a return to the days of Ozzie and Harriet, or The Brady Bunch, or Happy Days or some other TV show of interest to their age group. No simplistic solutions will return us to such dreamy days, but they blame anyone who disagrees and post toothy emojis in ridicule. Democrats'' world vision isn't perfect either, but it's hardly as neanderthal as the GOP.

Really? Your posts would seem to belie that theory.

 

[DANC]

You have to answer my questions about what was found by the investigation first.

By the way, the idea that the investigation was bogus and conducted by Democrats is all misinformation and lies from Trump and his cronies. It's not possible to count the number of Republicans Trump threw under the bus because they disagreed with him, noted lies as lies, or otherwise didn't show complete loyalty to him no matter what he said or did. That's what cults are like. You got into that cult and can't get out. I don't know what you'll do when Trump is no longer around, but I hope you come to your senses.

No, I asked the question first. You then obfuscated by wanting to play a word game.

Look up Mueller's team and you'll find they were Democrats or worked for law firms tied to the Democrat party. I've documented that here, so you can look it up yourself. I'm really tired of posting the same information for people who won't read it.

It's true Trump did get rid of people who only wanted to be on his team because he won and then proceeded to leak like a seive to the media behind his back. Most wanted to write a book and made ridiculous claims to sell those books.

When Trump isn't around, I'll find the next candidate with enough courage to expose the DC incestuous relationships and corruption and be an actual leader instead of a manager of a bureaucracy.

You can continue to vote for the next Republican who wants to sacrifice principles for congeniality.

 

[mcmurtry66]

All the soccer bullshit makes him a douchebag as far as I'm concerned.

Bitch your handler opened that door!

 

[Stuffshot]

No, I asked the question first. You then obfuscated by wanting to play a word game.

Look up Mueller's team and you'll find they were Democrats or worked for law firms tied to the Democrat party. I've documented that here, so you can look it up yourself. I'm really tired of posting the same information for people who won't read it.

It's true Trump did get rid of people who only wanted to be on his team because he won and then proceeded to leak like a seive to the media behind his back. Most wanted to write a book and made ridiculous claims to sell those books.

When Trump isn't around, I'll find the next candidate with enough courage to expose the DC incestuous relationships and corruption and be an actual leader instead of a manager of a bureaucracy.

You can continue to vote for the next Republican who wants to sacrifice principles for congeniality.

Jeez. How silly and unrealistic.

You have posted 17,474 posts but demand that he read every one of them or you won't respond because you claim you have already posted the requested information somewhere, at some time or another, EIEIO, blah blah blah.

Typical, but this tactic doesn't prove your point.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

No, I asked the question first. You then obfuscated by wanting to play a word game.

Look up Mueller's team and you'll find they were Democrats or worked for law firms tied to the Democrat party. I've documented that here, so you can look it up yourself. I'm really tired of posting the same information for people who won't read it.

It's true Trump did get rid of people who only wanted to be on his team because he won and then proceeded to leak like a seive to the media behind his back. Most wanted to write a book and made ridiculous claims to sell those books.

When Trump isn't around, I'll find the next candidate with enough courage to expose the DC incestuous relationships and corruption and be an actual leader instead of a manager of a bureaucracy.

You can continue to vote for the next Republican who wants to sacrifice principles for congeniality.

You seriously believe tons of stuff that just isn't so.

 

[DANC]

Jeez. How silly and unrealistic.

You have posted 17,474 posts but demand that he read every one of them or you won't respond because you claim you have already posted the requested information somewhere, at some time or another, EIEIO, blah blah blah.

Typical, but this tactic doesn't prove your point.

Because he will claim that I never tried to respond without insults or name calling.

He's a mod and seems to be able to pull out posts from the past. Why can't he look mine up?

 

[DANC]

You seriously believe tons of stuff that just isn't so.

Like what?

 

[Stuffshot]

Really? Your posts would seem to belie that theory.

Right on cue!

You and DANC both posted toothy emojis after I predicted you guys would post toothy emojis! Brilliant coordination!

 

[DANC]

Right on cue!

You and DANC both posted toothy emojis after I predicted you guys would post toothy emojis! Brilliant coordination!

Well stop posting ridiculous shit and you won't have to see them.

 

[Stuffshot]

Because he will claim that I never tried to respond without insults or name calling.

He's a mod and seems to be able to pull out posts from the past. Why can't he look mine up?

Because your 17,000+ posts are not indexed and probably are not even all available.

But, you really put your foot down and showed him, didn't you. LOL.

 

[DANC]

Because your 17,000+ posts are not indexed and probably are not even all available.

But, you really put your foot down and showed him, didn't you. LOL.

Does it bother you that I'm telling the truth?

 

[Stuffshot]

Well stop posting ridiculous shit and you won't have to see them.

🤣

 

[Stuffshot]

Does it bother you that I'm telling the truth?

No, because you're not. 🤣

You're just demanding he do something that's not possible. 🤣

 

[DANC]

No, because you're not. 🤣

Yes, I am.