LOL.Denial is a river in Africa. Some people also call denial a "right wing conspiracy".
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LOL.Denial is a river in Africa. Some people also call denial a "right wing conspiracy".
I believe what he says. He has never done that before; why will he do it now?
Define "early".
Sanctions were imposed on Russia in August of 2017. Around 8 months on the job.
As is usually the case, people focus way too much on what he is saying as opposed to what he was doing. Yeah, he glad handed Russia a little bit because there is some use in trying to work with them...I mean, that was something another administration thought at one point in time. And that was merely 2 months into that administration's start and shortly after Russia had invaded Georgia in 2008.
Sorry, but many of you are capable of being intellectually honest about Trump anymore.
Can't wait for CO and Crazy to explain how outrageous that is.Folks. It looks like Obama is guilty. Guilty or doing things carefully and by the book. Hahahahaha!
Can't wait for CO and Crazy to explain how outrageous that is.
The real issue is not unmasking, though there is information there. The real issue is leaking classified information to the Washington Post. That is a federal felony in violation of the espionage laws of the country. It is a given that someone in the Obama DOJ, likely with Obama's knowledge, perhaps with his consent and/or at his direction gave classified information to the mediaI'd bet dollars to donuts he doesn't have a definition. All "Russian hoax" is to him is a reason to hate Democrats.
Do you really believe what you say here or is it your poor satire?Souls for Sale. Has a nice ring to it I think. Like I said four years ago, if you believed the Russian hoax, you're either stupid or a liar. It appears the evidence is mounting that shows how the Obama Administration used Russian disimformation in an attempt to frame the POTUS as a Russian agent. How ironical.
The real issue is not unmasking, though there is information there. The real issue is leaking classified information to the Washington Post. That is a federal felony in violation of the espionage laws of the country. It is a given that someone in the Obama DOJ, likely with Obama's knowledge, perhaps with his consent and/or at his direction gave classified information to the media
I agree with Ladoga.Rick Grenell is leaking the information. At the instruction of the POTUS. Any problem with that?
Rick Grenell is leaking the information. At the instruction of the POTUS. Any problem with that?
HAHAHAHAHAHA. That is a really nice dance of irresponsible, unsubstantiated accusation you got going on there.It is a given that someone in the Obama DOJ, likely with Obama's knowledge, perhaps with his consent and/or at his direction
HAHAHAHAHAHA. That is a really nice dance of irresponsible, unsubstantiated accusation you got going on there.
Ladoga is an amazing man!HAHAHAHAHAHA. That is a really nice dance of irresponsible, unsubstantiated accusation you got going on there.
So, just to be clear:It was a CYA email she wrote out to herself 15 days after the fact. They are fairly common in any corporate/government type of setting.
It was a CYA email she wrote out to herself 15 days after the fact. They are fairly common in any corporate/government type of setting.
The Obama Admin DOJ had the classified info and then the Washington Post had it - during Obama's term. How did it get to the Post? Someone in the Obama DOJ or FBI gave it to them. Even you can figure that out when you're sober.HAHAHAHAHAHA. That is a really nice dance of irresponsible, unsubstantiated accusation you got going on there.
I knew that the next thing would be to question what "by the book" even means. When all else fails, dissect every single phrase and word to make it sound like a conspiracy theory.
The Obama administration was dirty.So, just to be clear:
Right-wing pundits speculate Obama did something wrong without evidence = Obama did something wrong.
Obama admin officials talking about not doing something wrong = Obama did something wrong.
Does it occur to you at all that you're simply predisposed to think Obama did something wrong?
This email has been a central part to the fever dream of the Trumpers. It was The Smoking Gun! It was released by acting DNI Rick Grenell at the direction of Trump.
It’s OK to admit you were wrong. Sometimes the fever dream is just that. A dream.
Edit to add Frum:
While we are here, if Trumpers are so damn concerned with national security and the IC, appointing Ratcliffe as DNI is a sorry reply. Acting DNI Grenell was mainly a Twitter troll before his appointment and he’s still more qualified than Ratcliffe.
Is this really what you guys are going with? Man, you must really think very little of voters.The Rice CYA Memo, Unredacted
By Andrew C. McCarthy
May 20, 2020 11:43 AM
How amusing to find President Obama’s national-security advisor, Susan Rice, suddenly calling for public release of the Flynn–Kislyak conversation intercepted by the Obama administration in late December 2016. I called for its release nearly three-and-a-half years ago. Dr. Rice, in a familiar pattern for her, has spent the ensuing years saying things that were obviously untrue only to reverse herself once the paper trail starts to dribble out.
Try not to get dizzy. Rice has gone from claiming to have had no knowledge of Obama administration monitoring of Flynn and other Trump associates, to claiming no knowledge of any unmaskings of Trump associates, to admitting she was complicit in the unmaskings, to — now — a call for the recorded conversation between retired general Michael Flynn and Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak to be released because it would purportedly show that the Obama administration had good reason to be concerned about Flynn (y’know, the guy she said she had no idea they were investigating).
Naturally, we have now learned that Rice was deeply involved in the Obama administration’s Trump–Russia investigation, including its sub-investigation of Flynn, a top Trump campaign surrogate who was slated to replace Rice as national-security advisor when President Trump took office. Last night, I did a column for Fox News, analyzing the newly unredacted paragraph from Rice’s previously reported email memorializing a White House meeting on these subjects.
The meeting took place on January 5, 2017, and involved Rice, Obama, and Vice President Biden, the administration’s top political hierarchy on national-security matters, along with Obama’s top law-enforcement and counterintelligence officials, deputy attorney general Sally Yates (soon formally to take the acting AG role she was already performing), and FBI director James Comey. Prior redactions had already demonstrated that the meeting’s central purpose was to discuss the rationale for withholding intelligence about Russia from the incoming Trump national-security team.
It is perfectly obvious that not all Russia information was being withheld. Indeed, the following day, Comey would join other intelligence chiefs to brief then-president-elect Trump on Russia’s interference in the 2016 campaign (and we now know the FBI treated Comey’s conversation with Trump as an investigative mission). What Obama officials decided to conceal was the Obama administration’s investigation of the Trump campaign — a probe based on the absurd theory that Trump’s campaign had conspired in the Kremlin’s hacking and other cyberespionage operations.
The Obama administration hoped to conceal what it had done so that the FBI and the Justice Department, which Comey and Yates would be staying on to lead, could continue the investigation even after Trump took office. And, of course, they did just that; in fact, the Bureau and DOJ renewed the 90-day FISA surveillance warrant on Carter Page just before Trump was inaugurated, and would renew it two more times (in April and June 2017) after Trump was in power — renewals that were easier to green-light because both Flynn and Attorney General Jeff Sessions had been sidelined from the Trump–Russia investigation.
Clearly, Rice, Obama, and Biden realized it would eventually become known to President Trump and top advisers that the Obama administration had both investigated his campaign, and had laid the groundwork to persist in investigating his administration. The patent point of Rice’s last-second email — written “To the File” (what file?) as she was leaving her office on January 20, memorializing a meeting that had occurred over two weeks earlier — was to shift responsibility from President Obama to FBI Director Comey for the pursuit of the Trump–Russia probe.
The newly unredacted paragraph from Rice’s email relates that Comey reported to Obama, Biden, and Rice on the FBI’s investigation of Flynn. The FBI director is said to have framed it as both a “law enforcement” matter (the theory that Flynn committed a crime by violating the moribund Logan Act) and a “national-security” matter (the counterintelligence investigation that the Bureau had actually closed for lack of evidence but was extending due to the Kislyak conversation — despite the lack of any wrongdoing).
According to Rice, Comey was non-committal when Obama asked whether Russia intelligence should be withheld from Flynn — “potentially,” he is quoted as responding. Rice claims Obama left the matter of concealing information from the Trump team unresolved, with the proviso that Comey was to report back if there were any changes.
Again, remember that Rice wrote this email on January 20. She knew it had been 15 days since the meeting. But her email includes no indication that Comey ever reported any changes back to Obama. We are left to conclude that Obama must never have directed that anything be done. Hey, if it turns out the FBI kept up its Trump–Russia investigation, that must have been Comey’s doing — Obama had nothing to do with it. Yup.
It is vital that the documentary record, which should have been uncovered years ago, continue being brought to light. It is good that Trump’s National Intelligence director Ric Grenell is forcing the issue. But let’s not forget: When it turns out that Obama officials have intentionally inserted after-the-fact CYA memos into “the File,” we have to ask why they have done so . . . and to read what they’ve written with that in mind.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...mo-unredacted/
Is this really what you guys are going with? Man, you must really think very little of voters.
Hey it’s better than addressing 100,000 dead and 35M unemployed. And yes, Trumpdoes think hisvoters are this dumb.
What do you mean, going with?Is this really what you guys are going with? Man, you must really think very little of voters.
As in, is this really your plan for the election? To try to convince voters to believe in this nonsense conspiracy theory in the hopes it will rub off on Biden?What do you mean, going with?
What are they covering up here? Never heard of anything like it. She clearly had something big on Biden and Obama. She was also the one that predicted a black swan event for 2024.Anyone who bothers to look back will find hints at how this program might have been misused. In late 2015, Obama officials bragged to the Wall Street Journal they’d made use of FISA surveillance involving “Jewish-American groups” as well as “U.S. lawmakers” in congress, all because they wanted to more effectively “counter” Israeli opposition to Obama’s nuclear deal with Iran. This is a long way from using surveillance to defuse terror plots or break up human trafficking rings.Kind of hard to do targeted searches of U.S. lawmakers and Jewish American Groups without unmasking the citizen side of those communications. Section 702 is supposed to target foreigners they had to be unmasking. The Obama admin would not know who those foreign contacts were speaking to without unmasking a U.S. citizen because the U.S. contact has their info redacted without it being unmasked.
Catherine Herridge released the documents last week indicating that members of the Obama admin (including Biden), were unmasking Flynn and other Trump transition members.
So respectfully, yes, this article does speak directly to unmasking.
Hey DBM. You posted a report about the wire tap of Trump towers (circa 2015) a while ago. I can’t find it with the goat search function, but it mentioned that the FBI/CIA/Swamp tapping program was called “project Fulsom”.What are they covering up here? Never heard of anything like it. She clearly had something big on Biden and Obama. She was also the one that predicted a black swan event for 2024.