Yes, it was a gotcha question.The person probably was trying to trap her. There is no other reason to ask the question.
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Yes, it was a gotcha question.The person probably was trying to trap her. There is no other reason to ask the question.
Exactly.The person probably was trying to trap her. There is no other reason to ask the question.
But didn’t Lincoln claim at the beginning it wasn’t about slavery, but whether a state had the right to secede? He started bringing in the elimination of slavery years later, no?It was entirely about slavery, anyone saying anything more is selling something. Many states wrote declarations on their exits, all that did mentioned slavery. None mentioned the other states rights issues of the day (homestead act, land grant universities, transcontinental railroad).
The only state's right they were willing to fight for was slavery. Read Battle Cry of Freedom about the war. The holder of slaves began pushing the war years in advance. There were plans by southern states to invade Cuba and Central American country to move them to slavery to create an export market. Articles in newspapers appeared claiming abolitionists wanted to force White daughters to marry Black slaves.
That doesn't mean that for some the old line "why are you fighting" asked by a yank was answered " because you are down here" wasn't true. But the powers that be went to war over slavery. Anyone find a state mentioning land grant universities for why they seceded?
Because Lincoln was elected presidentYou are begging the question. They seceded in 1860 or thereabouts. Why not 1840?
But didn’t Lincoln claim at the beginning it wasn’t about slavery, but whether a state had the right to secede? He started bringing in the elimination of slavery years later, no?
That’s my point. The South definitely seceded because of slavery and what it thought the North would do.Lincoln didn't initially believe that eliminating slavery was necessary to maintain the Union. Only later did he realize that if the Union was going to be re-united after the war, slavery couldn't be maintained.
Lincoln said if it saved the union he wouldn't free any slaves, or he would free them all if that is what it took. He never intended for the war. The war came because of secession, why did they seceded?But didn’t Lincoln claim at the beginning it wasn’t about slavery, but whether a state had the right to secede? He started bringing in the elimination of slavery years later, no?
When Lincoln entered the war, I don’t think there is any evidence he intended to free the slaves.Lincoln said if it saved the union he wouldn't free any slaves, or he would free them all if that is what it took. He never intended for the war. The war came because of secession, why did they seceded?
I think she very poorly articulated that the Civil War was fought to restore the Union, to end slavery, and to allow extension of Constitutional rights to slaves.so i guess our inane media is now dragging nikki for her answer about the civil war and leaving out slavery. our resident expert @Marvin the Martian may weigh in here but i thought her answer was fine. it was about state's rights and the reach of the fed gov. do these people think she's not aware of slavery? i mean wtf is wrong with the people in this country? the woman is a tater. born in bamberg an hour away from charleston harbor. with as insane as our population/media has become i don't know why any normal person would want to run. biden is a an ancient govtl ruin but save that we may end up with only narcissistic crazies like the viv or trump capable of putting up with the bullshit
To return to my own point above, secession only raised such questions because of slavery.That’s my point. The South definitely seceded because of slavery and what it thought the North would do.
But Lincoln did not enter the war to eliminate slavery. He had a technical—legal—reading of the Constitution that he thought forced him to act. And he didn’t have to. Plenty of Northerners didn’t want a war.
Henry ClayYou are begging the question. They seceded in 1860 or thereabouts. Why not 1840?
He said that early - not late.Lincoln said if it saved the union he wouldn't free any slaves, or he would free them all if that is what it took. He never intended for the war. The war came because of secession, why did they seceded?
Obviously, slavery's days were numbered. I'm not sure enough people realized that at the time to avoid war, though. But anything is possible. Dred Scott certainly didn't help.Slavery was always an issue subject to serious debate. I think Slavery would have been negotiated out of existence at some point. There were many serious proposals along those lines. Then came Dred Scott. If the Dred Scott case gone the other way, IMO there would have been a descent chance slavery would have ended without war.
The Dems want to run against Trump. CNN-based media is following the marching orders to attack folks who threaten his GOP role, even while creating legal mess after legal mess to the swamp bigger.
You and COH should just merge your accounts.
When Lincoln entered the war, I don’t think there is any evidence he intended to free the slaves.
The South fought for slavery, the North for union (simplistic, not everyone fought for the same reasons).
All that brain-power would blow up this place.You and COH should just merge your accounts.
All that brain-power would blow up this place.
MyTeamIsCOHYou and COH should just merge your accounts.
As should you & HickoryZeke…You and COH should just merge your accounts.
So many "Chess roots" posts.MyTeamIsCOH
You and COH should just merge your accounts.
As should you & HickoryZeke…
All that brain-power would blow up this place.
Hard to think what brainiac we should merge you with….As should you & HickoryZeke…
FIFY
Birther conspiracy originated from the Clinton campaign, never forget.Haley's closing the gap in New Hampshire:
Trump 39%
Haley 32%
He's playing the birther bullshit card again, so he must be worried.
Seems like in The Con's mind everybody is ineligible for the presidency except him - - - a soon-to-be convicted felon who corruptly and illegally tried to overturn an election he lost.
No matter what she does in nh she will follow up losing her own state. She has no chance unfortunatelyBirthed conspiracy originated from the Clinton campaign, never forget.
No, it didn't. That's a lie Trump told, which you believe, because Trump.Birther conspiracy originated from the Clinton campaign, never forget.
They weren’t as blatant about it as Trump but indeed they did. From staffers spreading emails to Mark Penn questioning his “Lack of American roots”.No, it didn't. That's a lie Trump told, which you believe, because Trump.
Yes, much more traction. And understandably so.Subsequently they launched a similar campaign about “Russian collusion” in 2016. That one got more traction.
No, they didn't. Conservative bloggers started it. Someone on the Clinton campaign forwarded a chain email (and I think was fired over it), but they didn't originate it.They weren’t as blatant about it as Trump but indeed they did. From staffers spreading emails to Mark Penn questioning his “Lack of American roots”.
“We’re not sayin, we’re just sayin….”
Subsequently they launched a similar campaign about “Russian collusion” in 2016. That one got more traction.
Never forget Trump repeated the lie for years. Never forget he promoted similar bullshit birther lies against Cruz, Harris and now Haley.Birther conspiracy originated from the Clinton campaign, never forget.
Trump couldn’t vote for himself if convicted before the election:Haley's closing the gap in New Hampshire:
Trump 39%
Haley 32%
He's playing the birther bullshit card again, so he must be worried.
Seems like in The Con's mind everybody is ineligible for the presidency except him - - - a soon-to-be convicted felon who corruptly and illegally tried to overturn an election he lost.
Trump couldn’t vote for himself if convicted before the election:
Maybe if Florida allows it for Felons who are appealing.
I should have said felons that were appealing their convictions.Trump is definitely unappealing, so there's that.