With EAU moot I would imagine other universities will quickly follow suitOhio State announced a vaccine mandate today for students and employees.
Ohio State now requiring the COVID-19 vaccine. Will other universities follow?
Following the U.S. Food and Drug Administration's full approval of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, Ohio State says it will require COVID-19 vaccines.www.dispatch.com
Ivermectin a promising drug...
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click the link if you want to educate yourself on the POSSIBILTY of the drug
The FDA-approved drug ivermectin inhibits the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in vitro
Although several clinical trials are now underway to test possible therapies, the worldwide response to the COVID-19 outbreak has been largely limited…pdf.sciencedirectassets.com
That's quite a link to some garbage web site that is talking about "in vitro". Did you find that on facebook? I'm amazed that idiots will risk their lives by buying into horse worm pills rather than a vaccine that today was approved by the FDA.
The problem is it hasn't even been studied. I will be 110% on board with you, if scientists weigh in and say it is an effective treatment for Covid. Right now, 70% of calls to poison control are because of Ivermectin.
Poison control calls spike as people take livestock dewormer to treat COVID-19
The Mississippi Poison Control Center sent out a health alert Friday warning health leaders of potential toxicity related to a drug used to deworm livestock that some are using to treat and prevent COVID-19.
Mark’s post was the vaccine is stopping people from getting sick and dying. I know multiple people sick that are vaccinated, one that died of Covid with the vaccine and one that died from a reaction to the vaccine.
I plan on taking the Pfizer booster as does my sister. That doesn’t mean we are not going to get Covid or die from Covid.
Mark’s post:
“It stops people from getting sick and dying. Why do people insist on dismissing that?”
You are an accountant. When hospitals are reporting that 99% of Covid deaths are unvaccinated, what isn't adding up for you?
U.S. COVID Deaths Are Rising Again. Experts Call It A 'Pandemic Of The Unvaccinated'
Reversing a months-long downward trend, deaths from COVID-19 have begun rising steadily this week. More than 99% of the recent fatalities were among people who had not been vaccinated.
www.npr.org
It does mean, though, that you are 3x less likely to get infected and 30x less likely to die. (LA county study linked yesterday)
Think of it as putting a 90% FT shooter up to the line, vs. 30% FT shooter (make it to avoid infection)
or
Think of it as putting a 90% FT shooter up to the line, vs. 3% FT shooter (death)
Actual stats:
Fully vax: admitted 3.2% Non vax 7.6%
Fully vax: icu 0.5% Non vax 1.5%
Full vax: mechanical vent .2% Non vax .5%.
Breakthroughs in LA now are 30%
Percentage talk is hyperbolic. I've had enough of it from the media. If Australia has one case and a new one added Covid cases are up 100 percent oh my god!!!
Put a picture of a horse on the bottle for full compliance.
So how soon will the effectiveness of my shot be zero?
Pfizer's CEO says Covid vaccine effectiveness drops to 84% after six months
Pfizer's vaccine initially protects people 100% of the time against hospitalization, but that falls to low 90% and mid-to-high 80% after 6 months, Bourla said.
Another question. If Trump was still president would Harris and other Dems be vaccinated?
Yes. It's breaking down exactly as the vax trials indicated it would. Here is the breakthrough data from KFF. Pretty much exactly as expected.
COVID-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Cases: Data from the States | KFF
We reviewed the websites and other official state sources for all 50 states and D.C. to see which are providing data on COVID-19 breakthrough cases, hospitalizations and deaths, how regularly, and what those data may tell us.
www.kff.org
That's why we're all supposed to get boosters after 8 months.So how soon will the effectiveness of my shot be zero?
Pfizer's CEO says Covid vaccine effectiveness drops to 84% after six months
Pfizer's vaccine initially protects people 100% of the time against hospitalization, but that falls to low 90% and mid-to-high 80% after 6 months, Bourla said.www.cnbc.com
Another question. If Trump was still president would Harris and other Dems be vaccinated?
So they were all lying before the election, right? So why when they’re talking like that would so many people not wonder whether to believe them now.
Yea, my eight months really close. Guess I’ll be getting jabbed again. I wonder if I am supposed to continue getting my flu shot that I’ve done for years? It appears Flu has been eradicated, therefore no flu shot this year?
The problem is it hasn't even been studied. I will be 110% on board with you, if scientists weigh in and say it is an effective treatment for Covid. Right now, 70% of calls to poison control are because of Ivermectin.
Poison control calls spike as people take livestock dewormer to treat COVID-19
The Mississippi Poison Control Center sent out a health alert Friday warning health leaders of potential toxicity related to a drug used to deworm livestock that some are using to treat and prevent COVID-19.www.abc12.com
You can't say your 110% in if scientists are on board and then just ignore the data I linked that was provided by the creator of ivermectin when he worked at MRK. And then say it is garbage because of why? You don't like it.
And stop with the 70% calls junk. You know those are just idiots who are taking the stuff on their own and with out a doctor's consent. That is just stupid and proves nothing about the ineffectiveness of ivermectin.
Here's more research.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.31.21258081v1#disqus_thread (not peer reviewed)
So I am not saying we need to start using it now, just that we cannot dismiss it as some drug pushed by kooks. Let's get the scientists and researchers to look at in depth, run the trials that are needed, and see what happens.
The husband and wife who’ve had Covid since last week, started taking ivermectin yesterday. They both feel like they had a complete turn around today. I am sure it’s all in their brains.
They will be having an interesting talk with their doc/neighbor/friend who prescribed ivermectin for himself and was well in four days while they suffered for days before requesting ivermectin from him.
You don’t have to tell me, this proves nothing. The problem with all this is most folks I know were like I was my whole life. If the CDC, government, docs or any authority told me something important, I believed them. I no longer believe them without verifying if I can.
Okay. I'm fine with that. Sorry for being overly aggressive. I haven't read your links yet, but if it proves to be an effective treatment for covid, I'm all aboard. I'm aboard for ANYTHING that stops this nightmare. It's just tragic when you see people dying because they won't get a vaccine that takes 15 minutes to get and is fairly certain to keep you from dying...but swallowing all kinds of nonsense that hasn't been proven in the least to protect them.
For instance, this update from Mayo Clinic discusses the drugs currently being researched. There's not even a mention of Ivermectin and Merck itself is said it's not to be used.
COVID-19 drugs: Are there any that work?
Medicine can help people who are at risk of, diagnosed with, or have symptoms of COVID-19.
www.mayoclinic.org
My skepticism comes from all the other "miracle" covid cures we've heard about in the past that turn out to be total duds. I would be ecstatic to be wrong.
Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. "The clinical data is very weak and there is no confidence in it."
This article just came out yesterday:
Jonathan Yardley, an associate professor at Ohio State University College of Veterinary Medicine, said ivermectin is used to kill worms in horses and cows, but is quite powerful.
The drug has caused seizures in miniature horses and dogs, Yardley said, adding, "I find it strange that people are unwilling to take a vaccine that has been approved, but are willing to take a horse drug. I just can't wrap my head around that."
Yardley said that the initial interest in ivermectin was triggered by a preprint that had not been peer-review, and was removed from the internet because of flaws in the data.
'You are not a horse. You are not a cow': FDA issues blunt warning on taking ivermectin, drug promoted by Ron Johnson to treat COVID-19
Republican U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson has talked up the use of ivermectin as part of a cocktail of repurposed drugs for early treatment of COVID-19.
www.jsonline.com
This article just came out yesterday:
Jonathan Yardley, an associate professor at Ohio State University College of Veterinary Medicine, said ivermectin is used to kill worms in horses and cows, but is quite powerful.
The drug has caused seizures in miniature horses and dogs, Yardley said, adding, "I find it strange that people are unwilling to take a vaccine that has been approved, but are willing to take a horse drug. I just can't wrap my head around that."
Yardley said that the initial interest in ivermectin was triggered by a preprint that had not been peer-review, and was removed from the internet because of flaws in the data.
So are airbag makers, let’s have a big round of applause for them too. I’m laughing at you, not big pharma. They’re making me good money in spite of being such humanitarians.🙄
So you’re advocating we let the sick & infirm that can‘t get the vaccine die then? That’s real Darwinism. Defective genetics shouldn’t be passed on either, so let them die off then, right. You should know this…
I got my vaccine back in February. For those of you who don’t trust the vaccine, I’ve heard that taking some rope (not too much) and tying one end around your neck and the other to a concrete block, then jumping into water that’s over your head will go a long way for preventing a Covid infection.
Did you wait until February because like Harris you didn’t trust Trump’s vaccine?
I trusted him. I got my first shot in December and second in January.
You really are a dramatic individual. Do you exercise besides golf? If you drink, lay-off the booze and do some basic yoga/stretching/meditation. Drink 100oz of water a day.
Golf is great too, but you need to stretch for at least 10-15 minutes a day.
I play golf most days except Monday, Saturday and Sunday. Stretch 5-10 minute before playing. Warm up 30 minutes on range.
Yea I am being dramatic. Just trying to make a point. I guess the Dems were being dramatic before the election? When do we know when they’re being dramatic and lying and when they’re telling the truth.
Leave Biden, out of it. He’s lying 24/7 or dementia is so bad he doesn’t know the difference. I assume Harris doesn’t have dementia, therefore she was lying before the election.
Maybe spelled differently, but that kinda got her to where she is to start with. Just sayin. She's a Cuomo kinda gal. ... AND it worked because there are no other logical reasons, who would have thunk it?
Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. "The clinical data is very weak and there is no confidence in it."
'You are not a horse. You are not a cow': FDA issues blunt warning on taking ivermectin, drug promoted by Ron Johnson to treat COVID-19
Republican U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson has talked up the use of ivermectin as part of a cocktail of repurposed drugs for early treatment of COVID-19.www.jsonline.com
This article just came out yesterday:
Jonathan Yardley, an associate professor at Ohio State University College of Veterinary Medicine, said ivermectin is used to kill worms in horses and cows, but is quite powerful.
The drug has caused seizures in miniature horses and dogs, Yardley said, adding, "I find it strange that people are unwilling to take a vaccine that has been approved, but are willing to take a horse drug. I just can't wrap my head around that."
Yardley said that the initial interest in ivermectin was triggered by a preprint that had not been peer-review, and was removed from the internet because of flaws in the data.
Glad to know. Not sure how much stock I take in an associate professor of vet med. Guess if my dogs get covid, I know who to call.
I got shot with first responders. My sister and I volunteer at an assisted living facility. The administrator asked us to get vaccinated with their employees.
Arkansas is trying a controlled study of Ivermectin...these test subjects aren't going anyplace.
www.rawstory.com
Arkansas jail caught experimenting on prisoners with conspiracy theorists' favorite new COVID drug: report
A jail doctor has been caught using cow and horse pills to treat COVID-19 on incarcerated people, the Daily Beast reported Wednesday. Concern was piqued when a Facebook conversation about conspiracy theorists' new favorite drug ivermectin was being discussed in a group. At one point, a doctor...
www.rawstory.com
Okay, now it makes sense. Your timeline would have put you first in line. I didn't think beancounters qualified. 😉
No, it’s even simpler than that and even you could understand why. I’m not over a certain age, I’m not immunocompromised and I’m not a front line worker. Other people were simply scheduled ahead of me. My second shot was during the first week of February, if that makes you feel better.
A local EMT posted on FB that an important local professional golfer used his connections to move to the front of the line. As unbelievable as it sounds, I didn’t call her out. 😂
