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It isn't in schools

Apropos of nothing, but many years ago we did some decorating at work for Easter. I kept a little magnetic cross that said “He is risen” and put it on my locker.

Today I happened to look at it and noticed that someone had written “hail satan, bitch” under it. I have no idea how long it’s been that way.

Dirty bastards.

Here's another little tidbit that will have you shaking your head.

I've become interested in the Delphi murder investigation. In the weeks following the murders there were a # of people who trolled the family members by posting images relating to the manner the children were rumored to have been murdered. or images relating the the rumored staging of the victims....bloody dolls, knives et al.
 
Here's another little tidbit that will have you shaking your head.

I've become interested in the Delphi murder investigation. In the weeks following the murders there were a # of people who trolled the family members by posting images relating to the manner the children were rumored to have been murdered. or images relating the the rumored staging of the victims....bloody dolls, knives et al.
Good grief. Some people are genuinely awful.
 
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It isn't in schools so much that every major textbook company decided to include it in math questions. 40% of the textbooks had to be tossed because they focused on something other than math (or moved the focus).
It’s not in our schools.

 
It’s not in our schools.

The story is a bit confusing

DC Public Schools told Fox News Digital in a statement that the original “Fistbook” was not shared with students.

“DC Public Schools provides joyful and rigorous academic experiences for our students and is committed to advancing educational equity,” the district said. “In December, a resource link with this content was shared in a parent newsletter at one of our schools. It is not part of our DCPS curriculum and was not shared with students,” the district said, referring to Richards’ guide for adults.

Yeah, that presentation should not be with kids below age 10. But I don't believe the school actually "gave 4 year olds anti-racism fistbook" as the headline suggests.
 
The story is a bit confusing



Yeah, that presentation should not be with kids below age 10. But I don't believe the school actually "gave 4 year olds anti-racism fistbook" as the headline suggests.
I’m not sure exactly what is real given the below from local ABC channel:

In a “Letter from the Principal,” Principal Daniellle Singh announced student involvement in an “Anti-Racism Fight Club” presentation. The letter noted each student received a “fistbook”to continue the dialogue introduced during the presentation.


Either way, this type of nonsense has no place among middle school, let alone preschool.
 
I’m not sure exactly what is real given the below from local ABC channel:

In a “Letter from the Principal,” Principal Daniellle Singh announced student involvement in an “Anti-Racism Fight Club” presentation. The letter noted each student received a “fistbook”to continue the dialogue introduced during the presentation.


Either way, this type of nonsense has no place among middle school, let alone preschool.
Agreed, at least on under 10 year olds. These presentations could be done so much better and actually promote a conversation but the problem is they are put together by extremists.
 
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It’s not in our schools.


When anti-racist education goes wrong and therefore necessitates even more anti-racist education because the former anti-racist education came from a white priveleged view.

These people are stupid.
 
It's funny how right-wingers grab on to the one-in-a-thousand nutjob teacher and yell "see what all of these teachers are doing"

And then they are asked to consider that sometimes abortions are indeed medically necessary, but they say "well, that's only 5% of the time, so it isn't even worth talking about"
 
It's funny how right-wingers grab on to the one-in-a-thousand nutjob teacher and yell "see what all of these teachers are doing"

And then they are asked to consider that sometimes abortions are indeed medically necessary, but they say "well, that's only 5% of the time, so it isn't even worth talking about"
Ah, our "former Republican" weighs in again.

Most anti-abortion proponents allow exceptions for instances that truly involve the health of the mother. Quit with your bull shit.
 
Most anti-abortion proponents allow exceptions for instances that truly involve the health of the mother. Quit with your bull shit.
No, it's pushed aside as a rare exception to not worry about, both here on this forum and in state statutes. Please show where this is outlined in, for example, the Texas law. Or the Mississippi law.
 
It's funny how right-wingers grab on to the one-in-a-thousand nutjob teacher and yell "see what all of these teachers are doing"

And then they are asked to consider that sometimes abortions are indeed medically necessary, but they say "well, that's only 5% of the time, so it isn't even worth talking about"

you have a habit of trying to ruin threads, don’t you? This thread wasn’t about abortion. Stay on topic.
 
The thread is on a one-in-a-thousand nutjob teacher being held up as some kind of norm and a sign of the apolocolypse.

I have plenty of teachers in my extended family. They are trying to get through the day and to get across basic academic skills. They are not at all focused on indoctrinating anybody into anything, and they don't know any teachers who are.
 
It's funny how right-wingers grab on to the one-in-a-thousand nutjob teacher and yell "see what all of these teachers are doing"

And then they are asked to consider that sometimes abortions are indeed medically necessary, but they say "well, that's only 5% of the time, so it isn't even worth talking about"
Literally no one has said that.

It's all made up in your child-like mind.
 
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No, it's pushed aside as a rare exception to not worry about, both here on this forum and in state statutes. Please show where this is outlined in, for example, the Texas law. Or the Mississippi law.
Google is your friend. Both of them have health exceptions. The Texas law allowed health exceptions that would result in the death of the mother or a severe loss or degradation in a bodily function and the Mississippi law would have allowed an exception for medical emergencies or “a severe fetal abnormality.”

Again, as I said, quit your bullshit.
 
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The thread is on a one-in-a-thousand nutjob teacher being held up as some kind of norm and a sign of the apolocolypse.

I have plenty of teachers in my extended family. They are trying to get through the day and to get across basic academic skills. They are not at all focused on indoctrinating anybody into anything, and they don't know any teachers who are.
The problem is, that it starts with one-in-a-thousand, but these fools won‘t stop until it’s made the norm.
 

It isn't in schools so much that every major textbook company decided to include it in math questions. 40% of the textbooks had to be tossed because they focused on something other than math (or moved the focus).
Why do they always have the same hair?

 
Anyone else seeing the irony of a (admittedly satirical) post expounding Christian values and then using a story problem using Arabic numerals?
You may have a point, but could you personally perform long division at a fourth grade level using Roman numerals?

(Make sure you show your work.)
 
Why do they always have the same hair?



Purple hair again....but seriously, elementary school. GSA, a gender and sexuality club. This is 5 to 10 or 11 year olds. Anytime an adult is on the DL trying to convince your children that the topic of sexuality needs to be kept hush hush from the parents or that they need to sneak around to try and find out why a little kid didn't want to come to the regular indoctrination session, we should have questions.

If this was anything other than the alphabet people, all rational adults and parents would lose their ever loving minds because this would rightly be seen as pervs trying to hide sexual conversations with children from their parents.

And again, for being such outliers, there sure seems to be a metric ****-ton of these videos available.
 


Purple hair again....but seriously, elementary school. GSA, a gender and sexuality club. This is 5 to 10 or 11 year olds. Anytime an adult is on the DL trying to convince your children that the topic of sexuality needs to be kept hush hush from the parents or that they need to sneak around to try and find out why a little kid didn't want to come to the regular indoctrination session, we should have questions.

If this was anything other than the alphabet people, all rational adults and parents would lose their ever loving minds because this would rightly be seen as pervs trying to hide sexual conversations with children from their parents.

And again, for being such outliers, there sure seems to be a metric ****-ton of these videos available.
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Purple hair again....but seriously, elementary school. GSA, a gender and sexuality club. This is 5 to 10 or 11 year olds. Anytime an adult is on the DL trying to convince your children that the topic of sexuality needs to be kept hush hush from the parents or that they need to sneak around to try and find out why a little kid didn't want to come to the regular indoctrination session, we should have questions.

If this was anything other than the alphabet people, all rational adults and parents would lose their ever loving minds because this would rightly be seen as pervs trying to hide sexual conversations with children from their parents.

And again, for being such outliers, there sure seems to be a metric ****-ton of these videos available.
I think you should stay away from the pervert accusations. I highly doubt any of these people have an interest in sexual relations or get off thinking about the kids.

It is bad enough (awful really) that they are hiding serious issues like this from the parents. I think it better helps the cause of seeking transparency about these things or ending them to stay on point and not use hyperbole. When you do that, the other side seizes on the hyperbole to make you look untrustworthy, thereby hurting your main point.
 
I think you should stay away from the pervert accusations. I highly doubt any of these people have an interest in sexual relations or get off thinking about the kids.

It is bad enough (awful really) that they are hiding serious issues like this from the parents. I think it better helps the cause of seeking transparency about these things or ending them to stay on point and not use hyperbole. When you do that, the other side seizes on the hyperbole to make you look untrustworthy, thereby hurting your main point.
I think anyone straight, gay, trans, or whatever else there is out there should get a side eye if they are trying to have sexual conversations behind a parent's back. To make clear what I said, if that was a straight male talking about having sexual conversations with children as young as 5 or 6 as part of a club, we would be questioning that person with the "this is a pedo-pervert" line of thinking in mind. The only reason we tip tie around it, and respectfully this is what you are doing, is because it is some non-heterosexual movement behind it. "You are calling gay people pervs." No, I am not. I am saying that anyone who is that interested in having those discussions with children and hiding them from parents should get the side eye the same way we would if it were 5 young girls or boys staying after school at a club not vetted by parents that was talking about masturbation (something shown that at least some of these groups are talking about) or some other such topic. And the fact they want to be secretive should set off all sorts of alarm bells.

What term would you like me to use for adults who want to talk to prepubescent children about sex without the parent's knowledge and consent and then tells the children to keep it from their parents? Groomer and perv are out. What can I call them? And again, I don't give a shit if they are gay or not, I don't want straight teachers doing this shit either. It is a complete violation of trust.

"The most comprehensive report about sexual abuse in public schools, published by the Department of Education in 2004, estimates—on the basis of a 2000 survey, conducted by the American Association of University Women, of 2,065 students in grades eight through 11—that nearly 10 percent of K-12 students have been victims of sexual misconduct by a public school employee. Assuming that figure is accurate, this would translate into an approximately 4.5 million children nationwide suffering sexual misconduct by public school employees, with an estimated 3 million suffering physical sexual abuse."


People won't like the author of the article but the report comes from the DoE. 1 in 10 students suffering some type of sexual abuse or misconduct from a school teacher or administrator. So if pervert or groomer is not a fair term, what is?
 


Purple hair again....but seriously, elementary school. GSA, a gender and sexuality club. This is 5 to 10 or 11 year olds. Anytime an adult is on the DL trying to convince your children that the topic of sexuality needs to be kept hush hush from the parents or that they need to sneak around to try and find out why a little kid didn't want to come to the regular indoctrination session, we should have questions.

If this was anything other than the alphabet people, all rational adults and parents would lose their ever loving minds because this would rightly be seen as pervs trying to hide sexual conversations with children from their parents.

And again, for being such outliers, there sure seems to be a metric ****-ton of these videos available.
This club wouldn’t last for a day after finding out about it in my district.
 
I think anyone straight, gay, trans, or whatever else there is out there should get a side eye if they are trying to have sexual conversations behind a parent's back. To make clear what I said, if that was a straight male talking about having sexual conversations with children as young as 5 or 6 as part of a club, we would be questioning that person with the "this is a pedo-pervert" line of thinking in mind. The only reason we tip tie around it, and respectfully this is what you are doing, is because it is some non-heterosexual movement behind it. "You are calling gay people pervs." No, I am not. I am saying that anyone who is that interested in having those discussions with children and hiding them from parents should get the side eye the same way we would if it were 5 young girls or boys staying after school at a club not vetted by parents that was talking about masturbation (something shown that at least some of these groups are talking about) or some other such topic. And the fact they want to be secretive should set off all sorts of alarm bells.

What term would you like me to use for adults who want to talk to prepubescent children about sex without the parent's knowledge and consent and then tells the children to keep it from their parents? Groomer and perv are out. What can I call them? And again, I don't give a shit if they are gay or not, I don't want straight teachers doing this shit either. It is a complete violation of trust.

"The most comprehensive report about sexual abuse in public schools, published by the Department of Education in 2004, estimates—on the basis of a 2000 survey, conducted by the American Association of University Women, of 2,065 students in grades eight through 11—that nearly 10 percent of K-12 students have been victims of sexual misconduct by a public school employee. Assuming that figure is accurate, this would translate into an approximately 4.5 million children nationwide suffering sexual misconduct by public school employees, with an estimated 3 million suffering physical sexual abuse."


People won't like the author of the article but the report comes from the DoE. 1 in 10 students suffering some type of sexual abuse or misconduct from a school teacher or administrator. So if pervert or groomer is not a fair term, what is?
I didn’t realize these groups were discussing sexual acts or masturbation with elementary school kids. That is way wrong.

I’m not sure Id use the pervert label—just say what they do and you win the day. Give people the facts and if you do the job right, they will make their own conclusions on the value judgment. An old trial lawyer saw: let the jury think they reached your conclusion on their own and the judgment will stick better. Tell them what they should think (morally), and you immediately get resistance.

I think most of these people have their hearts in the right place and just want to make kids feel comfortable with themselves and not ashamed for being gay. Most of my gay friends say they knew in elementary school. But I’m sure even they would agree that talking about actual sexual acts is wrong with any children that age.

I’m really concerned with people using the sexual abuse angle to tie in with these efforts. I care deeply about that issue and am very concerned with how our society has treated this issue so I don’t want to see conflation, confusion, and politicization of that issue like we’ve seen with other issues (mostly done by the Left) I care about like racism, sexism, genocide, fascism, etc.
 
I think you should stay away from the pervert accusations. I highly doubt any of these people have an interest in sexual relations or get off thinking about the kids.

It is bad enough (awful really) that they are hiding serious issues like this from the parents. I think it better helps the cause of seeking transparency about these things or ending them to stay on point and not use hyperbole. When you do that, the other side seizes on the hyperbole to make you look untrustworthy, thereby hurting your main point.
I mostly agree - and would fully agree - were they talking about gender only. One can make a reasonable argument that gender and sexuality are unrelated and individual data points. By adding sexuality, they’ve jumped into perv territory. No elementary teacher or administrator should be discussing any type of sexuality with kids - be it hetero or other. It’s insanity and should be illegal.
 
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I think anyone straight, gay, trans, or whatever else there is out there should get a side eye if they are trying to have sexual conversations behind a parent's back. To make clear what I said, if that was a straight male talking about having sexual conversations with children as young as 5 or 6 as part of a club, we would be questioning that person with the "this is a pedo-pervert" line of thinking in mind. The only reason we tip tie around it, and respectfully this is what you are doing, is because it is some non-heterosexual movement behind it. "You are calling gay people pervs." No, I am not. I am saying that anyone who is that interested in having those discussions with children and hiding them from parents should get the side eye the same way we would if it were 5 young girls or boys staying after school at a club not vetted by parents that was talking about masturbation (something shown that at least some of these groups are talking about) or some other such topic. And the fact they want to be secretive should set off all sorts of alarm bells.

What term would you like me to use for adults who want to talk to prepubescent children about sex without the parent's knowledge and consent and then tells the children to keep it from their parents? Groomer and perv are out. What can I call them? And again, I don't give a shit if they are gay or not, I don't want straight teachers doing this shit either. It is a complete violation of trust.

"The most comprehensive report about sexual abuse in public schools, published by the Department of Education in 2004, estimates—on the basis of a 2000 survey, conducted by the American Association of University Women, of 2,065 students in grades eight through 11—that nearly 10 percent of K-12 students have been victims of sexual misconduct by a public school employee. Assuming that figure is accurate, this would translate into an approximately 4.5 million children nationwide suffering sexual misconduct by public school employees, with an estimated 3 million suffering physical sexual abuse."


People won't like the author of the article but the report comes from the DoE. 1 in 10 students suffering some type of sexual abuse or misconduct from a school teacher or administrator. So if pervert or groomer is not a fair term, what is?
I refuse to believe that number is accurate. 10%? Not a chance. Seriously that’s ridiculous.
 
I didn’t realize these groups were discussing sexual acts or masturbation with elementary school kids. That is way wrong.

I’m not sure Id use the pervert label—just say what they do and you win the day. Give people the facts and if you do the job right, they will make their own conclusions on the value judgment. An old trial lawyer saw: let the jury think they reached your conclusion on their own and the judgment will stick better. Tell them what they should think (morally), and you immediately get resistance.

I think most of these people have their hearts in the right place and just want to make kids feel comfortable with themselves and not ashamed for being gay. Most of my gay friends say they knew in elementary school. But I’m sure even they would agree that talking about actual sexual acts is wrong with any children that age.

I’m really concerned with people using the sexual abuse angle to tie in with these efforts. I care deeply about that issue and am very concerned with how our society has treated this issue so I don’t want to see conflation, confusion, and politicization of that issue like we’ve seen with other issues (mostly done by the Left) I care about like racism, sexism, genocide, fascism, etc.
I don't know if this particular group is talking about sexual acts, want to make that clear. I know that some are. One of the main issues here is the apparent lack of transparency. You don't know your child is in the club and we don't tell you what we discuss in the club.
 
I refuse to believe that number is accurate. 10%? Not a chance. Seriously that’s ridiculous.
That isn't all assaults. My guess is that figure covers anything from a male teacher telling a female student how "nice" they look in that outfit (in an inappropriate way) all the way up to the teachers we see that are having actual relationships with students. "Sexual misconduct" isn't well defined. It may be in the study but I didn't get through the whole thing.
 
I don't know if this particular group is talking about sexual acts, want to make that clear. I know that some are. One of the main issues here is the apparent lack of transparency. You don't know your child is in the club and we don't tell you what we discuss in the club.

Any group in that age range discussing sexual acts is a problem. I do not think many would feel otherwise.

Talking in general about accepting people who may be gay (or straight, or conservative, or liberal, or Christian, or atheist, or Jewish, or Black, or White, or book smart, or not book smart) should be normal conversation. And listening to kids say what makes them uncomfortable about school should be normal conversation.

If a kid is made to feel uncomfortable because they don't wear Nike, or they struggle with reading, or they are seen as the teacher's pet, or they are gay, straight, or anything else, there should be an open dialogue so the school can know and attempt to address. Public schools should be equally open to all.

And I believe you, Crazy, accept this theory. The question becomes how do we make sure that is a reality without getting ahead of our skis.

All kids should be equally welcomed by our schools. The fact that knucklehead stuff is going on should be addressed without losing site of that goal. Eliminating the knucklehead stuff is important in making sure the other cause is not harmed. Sometimes the conversation seems overly broad, such as the afore ideal itself is bad. And undoubtedly some think it is just as some think this knucklehead stuff is good.
 
I think anyone straight, gay, trans, or whatever else there is out there should get a side eye if they are trying to have sexual conversations behind a parent's back. To make clear what I said, if that was a straight male talking about having sexual conversations with children as young as 5 or 6 as part of a club, we would be questioning that person with the "this is a pedo-pervert" line of thinking in mind. The only reason we tip tie around it, and respectfully this is what you are doing, is because it is some non-heterosexual movement behind it. "You are calling gay people pervs." No, I am not. I am saying that anyone who is that interested in having those discussions with children and hiding them from parents should get the side eye the same way we would if it were 5 young girls or boys staying after school at a club not vetted by parents that was talking about masturbation (something shown that at least some of these groups are talking about) or some other such topic. And the fact they want to be secretive should set off all sorts of alarm bells.

What term would you like me to use for adults who want to talk to prepubescent children about sex without the parent's knowledge and consent and then tells the children to keep it from their parents? Groomer and perv are out. What can I call them? And again, I don't give a shit if they are gay or not, I don't want straight teachers doing this shit either. It is a complete violation of trust.

"The most comprehensive report about sexual abuse in public schools, published by the Department of Education in 2004, estimates—on the basis of a 2000 survey, conducted by the American Association of University Women, of 2,065 students in grades eight through 11—that nearly 10 percent of K-12 students have been victims of sexual misconduct by a public school employee. Assuming that figure is accurate, this would translate into an approximately 4.5 million children nationwide suffering sexual misconduct by public school employees, with an estimated 3 million suffering physical sexual abuse."


People won't like the author of the article but the report comes from the DoE. 1 in 10 students suffering some type of sexual abuse or misconduct from a school teacher or administrator. So if pervert or groomer is not a fair term, what is?

This can't be right. Shooter assures us that we only have to be concerned about 1 in a 1000. He or she would have to be pretty damn busy to rack up that many molests.
 
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This can't be right. Shooter assures us that we only have to be concerned about 1 in a 1000. He or she would have to be pretty damn busy to rack up that many molests.
And again, to clarify, I don't think that 1 in 10 number necessarily equates to molestation but it would include inappropriate conversations or innuendo in front of students. Otherwise I agree with Tanger that the figure is too high. Additionally, I would guess that the majority of those interactions would be classified as heterosexual in nature.

The issue as I see it is the lack of transparency. That leads to a trust deficit between parents and teachers. I, as a parent, cannot have the school hiding stuff from me. Even in cases of abuse, the authorities should be involved (and subsequently the parents are informed when the cops show up).

When you are having teaching seminars that say, "some parents may disagree with this so let's keep it on the DL", I believe that is enough of a breach of trust that you should be fired. Straight, gay, or otherwise.
 
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That isn't all assaults. My guess is that figure covers anything from a male teacher telling a female student how "nice" they look in that outfit (in an inappropriate way) all the way up to the teachers we see that are having actual relationships with students. "Sexual misconduct" isn't well defined. It may be in the study but I didn't get through the whole thing.

So they got a 1 out of 10 from somehow thinking some male teacher told a student somewhere that they looked nice in a inappropriate way. How in the world would someone know that that was going on?

That's a reach if I ever heard it.

If the actual stat was 1 on 10 kids were being a target of any kind, there wouldn't be a whole lot of kids in schools and a whole lot of homeschooling going on.

Edit: my 8 year old has 25 kids in her class. That would mean 2.5 of her classmates has or will have that happen to them, just in HER class alone. She's in third grade and there are four third grade classes. Just from the math perspective, that would mean that 12 kids in her 3rd grade would be targeted in her school. That's one grade. There's k-5 in this school, so there's probably 500-600 kids in this school, so 50-60 kids would be targeted. I find that math a real reach.
 
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Sorry to keep clarifying, but somewhat to @BradStevens point, I am trying to keep what my argument is clear without having it go off in the weeds because of language being chosen or what have you. (I get what he was saying up above but I think some of the language being used is necessary from a "Look Here!!!" standpoint.)
 
So they got a 1 out of 10 from somehow thinking some male teacher told a student somewhere that they looked nice in a inappropriate way. How in the world would someone know that that was going on?

That's a reach if I ever heard it.

If the actual stat was 1 on 10 kids were being a target of any kind, there wouldn't be a whole lot of kids in schools and a whole lot of homeschooling going on.
So here is my issue with you guys. Who qualifies as an "expert" on all of this? Those statistics are from the U.S. Department of Education. Click the link in the quote and it will pull up a nice pdf document for you. I would suggest, as I have throughout these school conversations, that everyone has a viewpoint of what is really going on based on what they see anecdotally around them. Got a spouse or relative or friend who is in schools and they tell you it is a-okay...well good enough for me. Nevermind that their experience is pretty limited to where they teach and who they teach with. We provide videos showing you that these conversations are occurring. Videos that say these topics are being covered. "Enh...that is an outlier, not happening most places. Show me this is widespread." Ok, pull a report prepared for the US Dept of Education. "No way that is accurate, if they are counting stuff that would qualify as sexual harassment in a workplace, that isn't really sexual misconduct..."

I would assert that you are being "invincibly ignorant" as a former poster here used to say. There is no amount of data that anyone could show you that would change your mind. There is no expert, no document, no government agency, no NGO, no reporter, no tapes confession that will override the couple of teachers you know personally.
 
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So here is my issue with you guys. Who qualifies as an "expert" on all of this? Those statistics are from the U.S. Department of Education. Click the link in the quote and it will pull up a nice pdf document for you. I would suggest, as I have throughout these school conversations, that everyone has a viewpoint of what is really going on based on what they see anecdotally around them. Got a spouse or relative or friend who is in schools and they tell you it is a-okay...well good enough for me. Nevermind that their experience is pretty limited to where they teach and who they teach with. We provide videos showing you that these conversations are occurring. Videos that say these topics are being covered. "Enh...that is an outlier, not happening most places. Show me this is widespread." Ok, pull a report prepared for the US Dept of Education. "No way that is accurate, if they are counting stuff that would qualify as sexual harassment in a workplace, that isn't really sexual misconduct..."

I would assert that you are being "invincibly ignorant" as a former poster here used to say. There is no amount of data that anyone could show you that would change your mind. There is no expert, no document, no government agency, no NGO, no reporter, no tapes confession that will override the couple of teachers you know personally.
I ask this with all due respect, and as someone who is not a disparager of the topic. I'm not sure if you have already addressed this, and I certainly understand if you don't want to answer:
How have you not pulled your kids from public school and found a suitable homeschooling option?
 
So here is my issue with you guys. Who qualifies as an "expert" on all of this? Those statistics are from the U.S. Department of Education. Click the link in the quote and it will pull up a nice pdf document for you. I would suggest, as I have throughout these school conversations, that everyone has a viewpoint of what is really going on based on what they see anecdotally around them. Got a spouse or relative or friend who is in schools and they tell you it is a-okay...well good enough for me. Nevermind that their experience is pretty limited to where they teach and who they teach with. We provide videos showing you that these conversations are occurring. Videos that say these topics are being covered. "Enh...that is an outlier, not happening most places. Show me this is widespread." Ok, pull a report prepared for the US Dept of Education. "No way that is accurate, if they are counting stuff that would qualify as sexual harassment in a workplace, that isn't really sexual misconduct..."

I would assert that you are being "invincibly ignorant" as a former poster here used to say. There is no amount of data that anyone could show you that would change your mind. There is no expert, no document, no government agency, no NGO, no reporter, no tapes confession that will override the couple of teachers you know personally.

I will agree with you, unless someone else has other numbers from a reputable source we have to go with these numbers.
 
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Here's an example of alleged "grooming"
A woman is teaching elementary school and one of the kids remarks that her necklace is pretty. She responds "Thanks, it was a surprise gift from my girlfriend"

Here's a related example that isn't judged to be grooming.
A woman is teaching elementary school and one of the kids remarks that her necklace is pretty. She responds "Thanks, it was a surprise gift from my boyfriend"
 
I ask this with all due respect, and as someone who is not a disparager of the topic. I'm not sure if you have already addressed this, and I certainly understand if you don't want to answer:
How have you not pulled your kids from public school and found a suitable homeschooling option?
I have 4 school age children, 1 with special needs. I lived in this area before children (and paid taxes for the schools) and will probably continue to live in this area after they graduate (and pay taxes for these schools). In my time living here, believing that good schools are good for the public at large and selfishly, property values in an area, I have voted on numerous occasions to RAISE my taxes specifically for school related issues. So I guess for one, I am invested in the schools. For two, I make pretty good money, but private schooling would be cost prohibitive. Finally, we looked at homeschooling and other options and a special needs student makes that really tough...and my spouse or I would most likely need to quit our job.

So, our school system is funded to the tune of about $13k/student a year. Let me have that $13k per child and spend it to educate them and I will take that and run. That is not going to happen. Additionally at a certain point I believe you have to put a foot down and agitate for what you think is right. For my school district, there is a group of agitators that will be running in November to flip the board.

All that being said, we have had positive experiences in our school system. It is a system that I see moving towards some of this stuff but it isn't a total loss. My 4th grader (special needs) "graduated" elementary as part of a ceremony this week. My wife was crying because of the relationships we have built with the staff and the fact that they won't be part of his next journey. I have had 4 boys go through that elementary school. They know us by name. Why would I walk away from something that we as a family have put that much time, resources, and emotional capital into without attempting to fix the few things we think need adjusted?
 
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