These kinds of arguments aren't persuasive at all. We don't know what would have happened under Trump and the opposite argument is just as viable.
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Well save those who don’t support a progressive agenda. There are only two choices.
That's because there are no sane republicans anymore. Not one. Nodda. All there are is bought and paid for idiots. The ones you LOVE. And you love the way they treat you. They play you like a guitar hero, fake plastic guitar. Like Babe Ruth swatting homers they play you and you like it.
As far as I'm concerned there are no choices.
This is simply wonderful........... If at the end, we simply just don't have a president for 4 years, but that will not be the way it works out. Like a toddler refusing to go to bed, ever, never going to sleep for 80 yrs.
Of course we can’t know that. But we do know what Trump did with Iran, We know what Biden did (and is doing) with Iran and what Iran did (and is doing) with its Jew-hating surrogates. We do know probabilities from all those circumstances. In many cases, probabilities are so strong that we can conclude cause and effect. I think Biden is an important cause of Iran/Hamas/Hezbollah/Huthi savagery and aggression.
So if Covid wasn’t set loose on the world what do you think would have happened in the 2020 election?
I'll live through four more years of Biden, despite disliking most of his policies, if it means the end of Trump and his influence on the Party. He's a disgrace and he's making the party a disgrace.
Also, Biden with a Republican led Congress (though it's going to be tight because we're running some Trump sycophants who will lose) is not going to do much.
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Really no need to make statements about other posters like this.
That’s your rightful opinion. There are other intelligent and successful people that feel the same way about Biden. Neither side in the republican party should be spiteful and condescending to the other side.
i don't know. bc the dems were all fired up with the summer of love riots and woke bs. but regardless you can't back on covid. shit happens and trump's response to same was amateur hour
I've been here a long time and I'm tired of dealing with imbeciles. Imbeciles who are purportedly Republicans are more likely to get a post like that recently than Democrat imbeciles. I expect it on that side.
Tell that to those on this board who repeatedly attack me for not supporting Trump. I don't care if they vote for Trump, but they sure as hell care that I won't.
My post above says both sides. If I see anyone disparaging you for your opinion on Trump I will deleted it.Tell that to those on this board who repeatedly attack me for not supporting Trump. I don't care if they vote for Trump, but they sure as hell care that I won't.
It's NOT that you won't support Trump. It's that you defend to the death every other worse option, who have already and continue to prove they are the worse option.Tell that to those on this board who repeatedly attack me for not supporting Trump. I don't care if they vote for Trump, but they sure as hell care that I won't.
It's as if you chose an amputation of a foot, instead of fixing an infected toenail.
Biden’s worse decisions, ( Iran, Border, Energy, DEI requirements) ) we’re done without congress.
False. I rarely defend Biden on anything. If you're talking about Haley, she was by far the best option. She'd soundly defeat Biden, but the frickin' MAGA crowd went with the two-time popular vote loser instead.
I've criticized Biden for several of those (the legitimate criticisms, not the outrageous ones) plus his unconstitutional loan forgiveness efforts for deadbeat former college students.
This is where you sound a thousand years old and way out of touch. That party is gone. People don’t want it. I don’t want it. Farva doesn’t want it. Go by policy coh and many others don’t want it. Hell the old Dem party may be gone too. There is no going back. Trump evokes sentiments that voters like that don’t comport with the Cheney type of party.
You call trump unfit. And in my opinion he is unfit. But the alternative is also unfit. A cadaver fumbling through a teleprompter who committed crimes and was declared unfit for trial due to his significant limitations. He’s literally unfit.
So what’s left. Policies. Do you prefer trump’s years are a progressive agenda. That’s it. But there is no going back. People don’t want what the old conservatives
Biden's list of crap is well short of trump's list. Just because biden is old and makes dumbass comments doesn't mean everything equals everything.
Biden is and was an awful choice by Dems. However, there's no excuse for Trump being the nomination.
I don't want Trumpism because I dislike many of its policies. Policies like isolationism and the de facto policy of never compromising are losing policies for the USA. As is the anti-science, anti-vax, conspiracy theory, anti-NATO, pro-Russia slant of so many of the MAGA Bunch. I cannot abide it, and I won't.
All of that is fair. But I would bet my life that as time passes and the yutes get older not wanting to pay for nato and isolationism will only grow. I question it too and want to see change. I think our ubiquity invites and it’s time to explore other paths for our economics etc. Again I firmly believe your old party is dead and gone. So do you prefer the dem’s approach to the issues you cite or today’s pubs. Maybe you’ll end up a Dem. Nothing wrong with that if they align with shit most impt to you. For years I voted Dem. Knocked on doors bc I was super anti tort reform.
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VDH has caught a severe case of TDS. He's a great author and used to be a respectable political commentator. I don't know what Trump does to you guys to make you so illogical and so prone to ridiculously implausible conspiracy theories. It deranges you - it's true TDS.
Right now, I don't align much with either. The extremes are in charge and it's putting us on a collision course with failure as a country. I'm a conservative who likes logic and pragmatism.
There hasn't been a better time for a new party since the demise of the Whigs and the rise of the Republican party before the Civil War.
It's not complicated Aloha. Most of us see major problems with a 6'2" serial child rapist, cock and balls intact, being placed into a women's prison simply because he felt like being a woman once he was convicted. Apparently you're fine with this stuff. Vote for Biden. The lunacy will continue.
agreed but the system (primaries/tv networks etc need revisions). i do post a viable third party candidate in a new thread who is running
You prove you're a moron with every post - and you're a dipshit. Nothing I ever posted remotely supports crap like that.
I don’t see the isolationism. Recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital isn’t isolationism. Killing Soleimani, isn’t isolationism. Starting Space Force isn’t isolationism.
Trumps NATO position was ahead of its time. Same with his warning about Nordstream.
Trump saw the shortcomings about DEI which now taking hold, except with Biden.
Trump got the Wuhan lab leak right, only to be excoriated by those who claim to be immune from conspiracy theories.
I pay attention to your criticism of Trump and the military. I think that is a problem. I don’t see Biden as the answer, especially after he ignored the military in Afghanistan. But you didn’t mention that here.
He can't help himself and he voted for it. Complete Madness. This country gets worse every day due to democrats and liberals. It's completely backwards.
Trump is a lot like Lord Elrond...power of foresight. Pretty much predicted 9/11 and what Iran would do with the billions Biden gave them.
You seem to care a great deal whether they vote for Trump. You talk about it endlessly.Tell that to those on this board who repeatedly attack me for not supporting Trump. I don't care if they vote for Trump, but they sure as hell care that I won't.
Just unreal. Maybe we are in a simulation.Ohhhh boy light the fuse. Continue on good sir!
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