Trump called that fraud just today in a tweet....whoops!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...p-election-voter-fraud?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...p-election-voter-fraud?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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Of course it's not. But that kind of distinction is lost on those who have convinced themselves that Trump is the answer.For the record, being registered in two different states isn't necessarily illegal, so long as you only vote in one.
So is Steve Mnuchin and Tiffany Trump.
For the record, being registered in two different states isn't necessarily illegal, so long as you only vote in one. A lot of people are registered in two different states, because almost no one takes the time to un-register; it's up to election boards to clean up the rolls. I'm sure I was still registered in Indiana the first few times I voted in Ohio, and still registered in Ohio the first few times I voted in Indiana after I moved back.
Shaun Spicer is going to get hammered on this. I actually feel sorry for the guy.
No, my understanding (amateur, of course) of Florida law (in this case, most states are the same) is that Bannon's registration there IS fraudulent, because he had no intention of actually residing there.Is it legal to be registered at a friend's house where he doesn't live?
Also, Trump just today claimed on The Twitter that it's fraud.
No, my understanding (amateur, of course) of Florida law (in this case, most states are the same) is that Bannon's registration there IS fraudulent, because he had no intention of actually residing there.
He's been Peter Principled squared. He so far in over his head, and is too cowardly to get out. That suit coat was so ill-fitting because there had to be room for DJT's arm up the back.I don't. He's part of the problem. He's a liar.
Ya know, you and Dr's conjecture here is rather interesting. Yes, Bannon was registered in two states. But, you are basing your claim that he had no intention of actually residing there on nothing other than the fact that he used a friend's address. Yes, it smells. But stink doesn't mean you crapped your pants. Could be just bad gas (or ripping a good one, depending on how you roll).No, my understanding (amateur, of course) of Florida law (in this case, most states are the same) is that Bannon's registration there IS fraudulent, because he had no intention of actually residing there.
I'm basing this on more than this single thread. I could be wrong. But this opinion was formed by what was shared in the past. Specifically, I recall an article about Bannon changing his Florida registration address from one false location to the current even as he already lived in New York.Ya know, you and Dr's conjecture here is rather interesting. Yes, Bannon was registered in two states. But, you are basing your claim that he had no intention of actually residing there on nothing other than the fact that he used a friend's address. Yes, it smells. But stink doesn't mean you crapped your pants. Could be just bad gas (or ripping a good one, depending on how you roll).
If you're going to throw a hissy fit every time Trump says something that is not factually supported, then you'd better play by those same rules.
Now, I gotta go see a man about a horse.
How can they tell whether you voted only once? I assume that in the days when the law was drafted, it was probably impossible since the person cannot be present at two places. Today, it is unless there is a checking mechanism.So is Steve Mnuchin and Tiffany Trump.
For the record, being registered in two different states isn't necessarily illegal, so long as you only vote in one. A lot of people are registered in two different states, because almost no one takes the time to un-register; it's up to election boards to clean up the rolls. I'm sure I was still registered in Indiana the first few times I voted in Ohio, and still registered in Ohio the first few times I voted in Indiana after I moved back.
I'm sure the President's investigation will take care of that.How can they tell whether you voted only once? I assume that in the days when the law was drafted, it was probably impossible since the person cannot be present at two places. Today, it is unless there is a checking mechanism.
Perhaps, presidential tweeting can find out who voted more than once.I'm sure the President's investigation will take care of that.
Its legal to be registered at the place you call home. Its not legal to vote twice. It not legal to vote in the name of another person. ITs not legal to vote in more than one place. This stuff isn't that hard to understand. What IS hard is cleaning up the rolls that have so many people on them you are registered illegally - not entitled to register anywhere, dead, have moved away and are on the rolls in another place, are voting without being registered and without being on the rolls in some jurisdictions where identity proof either isn't required by law or is required but isn't enforced by election officials. Then there's absentee voting, early voting, vote centers and more.Is it legal to be registered at a friend's house where he doesn't live? That's what Bannon did.
Also, Trump just today claimed on The Twitter that it's fraud.
Its legal to be registered at the place you call home. Its not legal to vote twice. It not legal to vote in the name of another person. ITs not legal to vote in more than one place. This stuff isn't that hard to understand. What IS hard is cleaning up the rolls that have so many people on them you are registered illegally - not entitled to register anywhere, dead, have moved away and are on the rolls in another place, are voting without being registered and without being on the rolls in some jurisdictions where identity proof either isn't required by law or is required but isn't enforced by election officials. Then there's absentee voting, early voting, vote centers and more.
Its legal to be registered at the place you call home. Its not legal to vote twice. It not legal to vote in the name of another person. ITs not legal to vote in more than one place. This stuff isn't that hard to understand. What IS hard is cleaning up the rolls that have so many people on them you are registered illegally - not entitled to register anywhere, dead, have moved away and are on the rolls in another place, are voting without being registered and without being on the rolls in some jurisdictions where identity proof either isn't required by law or is required but isn't enforced by election officials. Then there's absentee voting, early voting, vote centers and more.
I had a sister in law that was registered in 2 states. Ind and Texas. She is now deceased. She only voted in Texas. She was also a demo. In Ind you must sign a poll book when you vote. It looks like it would not be hard if all states had that system and one could tell if a person voted twice. How about discussing why the recount was stopped in Mich. It seems that some districts in that state had more voters than registered voters.Trump called that fraud just today in a tweet....whoops!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...p-election-voter-fraud?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
It turned out in the recount that the poll workers counted the voters incorrectly. I see dozens of conservative sites gleefully reported the first findings that it had happened, but for some reason I don't see any of them posting the update or a retraction once the cause was discovered. And, if it matters, it appears some Wisconsin counties over reported Trump's vote. Unfortunately math errors happen.I had a sister in law that was registered in 2 states. Ind and Texas. She is now deceased. She only voted in Texas. She was also a demo. In Ind you must sign a poll book when you vote. It looks like it would not be hard if all states had that system and one could tell if a person voted twice. How about discussing why the recount was stopped in Mich. It seems that some districts in that state had more voters than registered voters.
Its legal to be registered at the place you call home. Its not legal to vote twice. It not legal to vote in the name of another person. ITs not legal to vote in more than one place. This stuff isn't that hard to understand. What IS hard is cleaning up the rolls that have so many people on them you are registered illegally - not entitled to register anywhere, dead, have moved away and are on the rolls in another place, are voting without being registered and without being on the rolls in some jurisdictions where identity proof either isn't required by law or is required but isn't enforced by election officials. Then there's absentee voting, early voting, vote centers and more.
Why doesn't Trump understand that if it's so easy? He just Tweeted 2 days ago that people registered twice were "fraudulent" voters.
Legally, you can't do that. Your bona fide residence is defined in such a way as to preclude having more than one. It has nothing to do with federal vs. local. You simply can't have multiple legal residencies.Seems to me in this day and age a person could have dual residences and consequently have an interest in voting in local elections for candidates in more than one jurisdiction. Presumably this person is paying taxes in these two jurisdictions.
The problem comes in federal elections whereby a person can vote for two Senators, two House members, and vote twice for a presidential candidate.
A final note is to observe that absentee ballot fraud is way more likely than a voter showing up a more than one election polling place on election day.
Legally, you can't do that. Your bona fide residence is defined in such a way as to preclude having more than one. It has nothing to do with federal vs. local. You simply can't have multiple legal residencies.
No, I'm talking about elections, but I was using overly broad language to avoid a trap - all fifty states have their own laws. But they basically boil down to the same principle as domicile: you can register to vote at the address to which you intend to return permanently, i.e., the one place you consider your true "home" over all others. It's defined differently in each state, but the basic gist of it is the same: you can only have one. So if you are registered in two states, one of them is inherently invalid.Goat, think you are talking about "legal" as being in regard to the filing of income taxes. Thus you can have only one domicile but more than one residence.