If the admins truly wanted to win they would throw 7 million at chris beard after his season ends. We have the money. But they will never pony up.
Fred Glass deserves an ultimatum
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What does my desire have to with any GDT? ITs about IU...get it? No I dont think you do...
You mean it's right on the website? Huh...who knew? And here I was thinking it was some super secret, eyes only portfolio locked up under armed security so Glass and McRobbie could purposely ruin IU athletics with it while drinking brandy and lighting their cigars with $100 bills ripped off from Big Ten Network money as they secretly plot evil academic improvements for the University.
That's not Creaning that's just simply roster management and every coach does it eventually.
What Crean did at Marquette (where he earned the phrase by Wisconsin fans) and at IU, was over recruit. Consistently and yearly thus assuring he would have to have transfers and which left his teams perpetually inexperienced. Creaning is recruiting players for spots that are already filled. Creaning is the act of over recruiting first and then having transfers after.
It's comparable to having a fiance while already married.. which is never a good look.
Got it? Good ..
btw - it's different than over signing, but we'll keep it simple for now.
It's a distinction rooted in dislike of Crean and now, dislike of Miller (not by you. I know you're on board with Miller).
If you want non-contributing players to be cut, you want non-contributing players to be cut. It really doesn't matter when their replacements are recruited or how you parse it.
Crean's roster turnover problem was poor roster management but to call it some evil plot to surprise current players by introducing them to their replacement on their way out the door is silly. If you want to play that game, I'd call Crean's approach smarter than cutting someone and leaving a hole in your roster that may not be filled. This is big boy basketball after all, right?
For the record, I'm not in favor of either approach. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of people who think it's OK for one coach to do something and not OK for another coach to do essentially the same thing.
So happy Fred Glass was able to negotiate the BTN contract since he’s such a damn good lawyer.. without the BTN money he’s a fish out of water..
There is a huge difference...
All coaches crean sometimes, only Crean creaned all the time.
Semantics aside, it was a dumb approach. i agree it wasn't a plot -- crean honestly thought he could improve by dumping some players every year...and then he'd lose others because he is one of the most annoying human beings to have ever lived.
it's like saying going 35 in a 30 mph zone is the same as going 100 mph in a 30 mph zone. they are both infractions, right? Nuance is our friend.
I am?
fwiw - I'm neither a fan nor a hater. That sh*t's for the simple minded. It's just that the haters in their butthurt emotionally compromised state say the dumbest things. I'm anti dumb pro smart more than anything.
There is a huge difference in Creaning vs just having transfers. Just ask AAU and HS coaches throughout the state. One is business as usual, the other seems more like a basketball pimp flesh peddling.
Well, I should have said you're on board...for now. Didn't mean that you're a fanboy. And I think we feel the same about anti dumb commentary. That's about 90% of my posts.
At any rate, I don't see the difference between cutting a player and finding a replacement and finding a replacement of a player you intend to cut. It's all business as usual and it's all flesh peddling and we're all complicit. What I'm talking about isn't "just transferring", it's the calls for Miller to cut kids- Green and Smith, specifically- so they can be replaced. Those calls are all over these boards and it's no different that what Crean did.
Crean had 15 players one year for 13 spots. That guarantees 2 transfers. He did this every year he was coaching from 2003 on and it gave him a reputation among the AAU and HS coaches as an over recruiter. Why do you think his recruiting fell off so sharply? The state coaches didn't trust him with their players. A secondary byproduct was that his teams were perpetually inexperienced from constantly having transfers. It's not the same.. it created a culture of constant turnover and sense of disloyalty.
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I'm not arguing that Crean didn't manage his roster poorly. I'm arguing that there's no difference, in my mind, between what he did and calling for kids to be cut from the team so they can be replaced. I don't know that you think the latter is OK but I don't support either approach. I think, at this point, we're talking past each other on this topic and we should just focus on being anti dumb.
The problem was that many times Clappy creaned players and then replaced them with the likes of Priller, Gelon and April. Also when he oversigned, IU had no scholarships for players that were available and had B1G ability. Archie is vastly superior in roster management than his predecessor. If Crean thought Moore was good enough to play at IU, then he should be welcoming him to Georgia.
You haven’t been “pro smart” with anything. You do have the emotionally butthurt part down. Please don’t tattle on me again. xoxo
I had a post deleted the last time I responded to you. Mea culpa if you didn’t report it.
Naw, that's not my style. If you sh*t talked I'd ignore it. If you said something stupid I'd attack it. But telling on you? To who the mods? Do we have mods?
I thought it was weird. I didn’t take you for the type and it wasn’t that bad. I’ve said it worse. The mods must randomly pop in. Bulk said he had a post or two deleted a couple of weeks ago. Cheers. Enjoy your weekend.
Not one of those links produce an actual contract.
Nothing you joke about was ever remotely suggested by myself. It's funny, however completely off topic. You hijack my position in your defense of said moron Fred Glass.
Simply put in the dumbed down media version that has been linked, section 8 says it all. Let's put diapers on the kids and bastardize the coaches.
TMP is indeed onboard with Miller, don't let him fool you or anyone else. His coach of the year candidate prediction this season will never to be forgotten. There is a reason most people don't take him serious or his one word responses of "dumb" because he has no clue or can't debate in a civil manner. Probably a Crean disciple.
The ABOR is right on the website. It’s as easy to find as the schedule for any team.
What I posted was a compilation of the stupid comments in this and other threads. Thanks for finding it funny.
