Well, if you’d take time away from the box of Kleenex and dumbFUX News, you might actually learn something.
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Lol from some aging goofy hippy lib aligned with Tpm. Please
The question is: How much is enough?
I've had a lot of luck (and worked may ass off) and I've always kept in mind, the more I pay in taxes means the better I have done.
Paying taxes is patriotic. The same people who want the biggest, baddest, military don't want to pay for it. Sad.
I've had a lot of luck (and worked may ass off) and I've always kept in mind, the more I pay in taxes means the better I have done.
Paying taxes is patriotic. The same people who want the biggest, baddest, military don't want to pay for it. Sad.
“Aging goofy hippy lib”. Lmao. Please indeed. I voted GOP from my first election in ‘88 until the orange demagogue. But whatever you gotta tell yourself. It’s pretty sad that the GOP continues its cult following of that loser. It should tell you something that literally dozens of Reagan staffers and cabinet members endorse Harris. Or that 40 of 44 Trump cabinet members refuse to endorse Trump.
Lose on, loser. You let me know when the GOP is actually GOP and not GOPT. It’s a cult. Long past time to move on.
Oh, knock it off. Paying taxes has always been compulsory. I doubt you'd do it unless you were required to. My only point was that everyone should be required to have some skin in the game proportional to their station in life, and that no one with income and/or resources -- including me -- should get a free ride.
This sounds like you're advocating for a less progressive tax structure. Currently the majority of Americans are drawing more in benefits than they're paying in taxes. I wouldn't call that "skin in the game".
Lol, McM makes shit up constantly and has no social awareness ..
He's a chronic arguer and a huge attention whore with short man syndrome. Think C-$ level attention whore and like money can't keep a woman.
There's worse ... check out fine in chicago or whatever farva's newest handle is... pure whack job racist incel woman hater. Weird AF ....
I've long advocated for everyone -- including poor bastards like me -- paying their "fair share", whatever that might be. I'm not sure what my fair share is, but I'm sure it's not zero. There are way too many people out there not paying their fair share, and those aren't necessarily the "rich".
ah yes advice from our resident drug addict with a middle schooler's understanding of government. the man who never heard of a 990. a follower of youth sports without a kid playing....
we'll tap you for weed strains and 70 bands. otherwise you're out of your element - save your role as board weirdo
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No ones ever been able to define fair. To me, fair means proportionality. 10% on all taxable income. That’s fair to me.
Fine with me, but we have to get rid of a lot of the deductions that reduce the taxable income down to (next to) nothing.
A national income tax was previously not a thing, and required an amendment.
Agree no one should get free rides,
let's reduce the taxes, the threat and intimidation tactics, and the government run programs that create free rides.
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Mark Cuban says Trump's billionaire backers know they can manipulate him because he's 'so transactional, and so devoid of core values'
Billionaire Mark Cuban accused former President Donald Trump of lacking character, continuing his recent criticism of the 2024 GOP candidate.
www.businessinsider.com
Lmao water is wet. He’s not a progressive. That’s it
Mark Cuban says Trump's billionaire backers know they can manipulate him because he's 'so transactional, and so devoid of core values'
Billionaire Mark Cuban accused former President Donald Trump of lacking character, continuing his recent criticism of the 2024 GOP candidate.
@TheOriginalHappyGoat I feel like you abandoned a decent opportunity for a real debate.
I was thinking about this again today and I don't understand why the "lead by example" mantra isn't applicable here.
If you are a billionaire and can convince others to donate an extensive amount of your wealth upon passing (or maybe even before), why can't you do the same with regards to taxes? If your stated tax rate is 37% for any income over $731K (for married) and you are paying an effective rate, after spending hundreds of thousands (if not more) on reducing taxes, of 20%, then we should be able to agree on two things.
1) The tax code is ineffective, as currently written (I doubt many would quarrel with that)
2) Those paying significantly less are being incredibly creative to reduce massive amounts of AGI to pay such a low effective rate, relative to the stated rate.
So I stand by my stance that if one of these blowhards wanted to make a change, they would lead by example. It really isn't going to affect their net worth or financial situation. Lastly, why aren't we equally critical of their decision to donate large swaths of their net worth - likely tax free (or maybe not, I don't know for certain) to avoid paying significant death and estate taxes to the US Treasury?
How do you prove a crime (unanimous verdict beyond a reasonable doubt) with complicated gray areas? Very tough. So the worst that can happen is sone penalties they can cover 1000 times over with the money they have being less than genuine with their returns.
I didn't abandon it. I ended it by pointing out the absurdity of applying the same logic in any other situation (such as violent crime).
Of course leading by example is a good thing, but it's not a substitute for policy. If I think I should pay more, I can certainly pay more, but if I think you should pay more against your own desires, I need to pass a law forcing you to do it.
That's my entire point though. They are basically pointing the finger and saying - they should be paying more. I acknowledge they have a right to voice that opinion, but I'm simply pointing out the irony of doing so while fighting tooth and nail to lower their own taxes.
What? I'm not suggesting anyone is committing a crime of any sort here.
Where did he say anything about a crime, Einstein?
That's fine as far as it goes, but it's not a logical response to their argument itself, and some seem to be treating it as such. That's all I was pushing back against. They can be self-centered rich hypocrites and still be right.
Slingblade originally posted this on the freebie hoop forum and had to be told it wasn't the right place.
The problem is defining "fair share". Anyone who has ever used that phrase normally just means paying more than you are now and when you pay more then they mean paying more than the new amount.
If a person doesn't feel like they are paying their fair share they can always pay more. Just because others don't pay what they think others should be paying doesn't mean that individual can't do what they think is right. Lots of people talk a good game but don't do what they preach. Warren Buffet says the billionaires don't pay enough taxes yet he's fought the IRS more than once to keep from paying taxes.
What they are really saying is that other billionaires should be paying more taxes.
Mark paid $288MM in taxes last year.
He is a moderate demorcrat/Independent that I would vote for.
I wouldn’t vote for him in most cases but I can respect most of his opinions
It’s just complete bull when these guys say they should pay more taxes. Every single one of them spend enormous sums with Tax professionals to pay less.
How do you know this? Maybe Cuban or Buffett or whomever says just do my taxes correctly. I don’t think all ultra wealthy people are always trying to rig the system in their favor.
And even if they are, doesn’t mean they can’t be in favor of not allowing it.
If we had more confidence in gov people would feel better about it. When you read how the agencies botched Covid and one agency blunder after another thereafter and then see how unremarkable our elected officials are you have little faith they will be good stewards of the money we earn. They treat it like Monopoly money
A big part of their professional fees goes toward compliance, as well. It's OK to play by the rules, but still have a desire to see the rules changed.
I always thought he could be the "outsider" that came in and killed it. What Trump wanted to be but couldn't.
and he is a career innovater and gets shit done. People (including NBA players) love working for the guy.
