Are you a climate alarmist?
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It's not wrong. There was nenumbness. proposed to make any gas stove now in use "illegal". There was a stupid idea, not endorsed by any politician on either side, to my knowledge, to stop selling them. Nobody of any significance supported that lousy proposal, which had NOTHING TO DO WITH CLIMATE CHANGE, numbnuts.
DOE rule may block 50% of current gas stove models
The Department of Energy has released more details about a proposed appliance regulation.
www.eenews.net
“DOE’s analysis is constructed so that the proposed standard would ensure that products with at least one HIR burner and continuous grates can continue to be available on the market”
“We did go out of our way to make sure that these two features would remain on the market in creating our analysis.”
“Over half the market would remain if this standard is finalized as proposed.”
You have to love government bureaucrats. They are only going to ban half the gas stoves
Seems like something akin to banning leaded gasoline. Not sure I see the problem.
DOE rule may block 50% of current gas stove models
The Department of Energy has released more details about a proposed appliance regulation.
“DOE’s analysis is constructed so that the proposed standard would ensure that products with at least one HIR burner and continuous grates can continue to be available on the market”
“We did go out of our way to make sure that these two features would remain on the market in creating our analysis.”
“Over half the market would remain if this standard is finalized as proposed.”
You have to love government bureaucrats. They are only going to ban half the gas stoves
If gas stove manufacturers want to market a new and improved product….have at it.
Congress should pass legislation to block the DOE ban
You're not a fan of any health and safety regulations? Or just this particular one? Because this is all that is.
I took my best buddies wife to Vegas for a long weekend of sex and debochery . When he found out, he was very mad.
I told him that I only did it so he could have a peaceful weekend to go fishing without her nagging his ass. He then said, oh thanks good plan!
H&S my ass.
Put the information out there. Let the consumer (American people) decide. This rule should not be forced on the peasants by the aristocracy
So leaded gas is cool. Seat belts are bull shit. Liquor, weed and smokes for all ages And you're good with chefs not washing their hands. Got it.
Is your middle name "Danger"?
When YOUR president looks you straight in the eye and tells you he’s going to ruin your way of life.
Believe him.
The single stall ones with the lock on the doors? ****ing amazing. Takes the fear of pooping in public out the game!
Gas stove use and respiratory health among adults with asthma in NHANES III - PubMed
Among adults with asthma, there was no apparent impact of gas stove use on pulmonary function or respiratory symptoms. These results should be reassuring to adults with asthma and their health care providers.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Dude. I have no idea. Not a doctor. But I got links too.Gas stove use and respiratory health among adults with asthma in NHANES III - PubMed
Among adults with asthma, there was no apparent impact of gas stove use on pulmonary function or respiratory symptoms. These results should be reassuring to adults with asthma and their health care providers.
Are Gas Stoves Really Causing Asthma?
A dive into the paper behind the panicked headlines.
Then same organization you linked...
Population Attributable Fraction of Gas Stoves and Childhood Asthma in the United States
Indoor gas stove use for cooking is associated with an increased risk of current asthma among children and is prevalent in 35% of households in the United States (US). The population-level implications of gas cooking are largely unrecognized. We quantified ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
We need to ban household cleaners
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
www.cmaj.ca
The Use of Household Cleaning Sprays and Adult Asthma: An International Longitudinal Study
Rationale: Cleaning work and professional use of certain cleaning products have been associated with asthma, but respiratory effects of nonprofessional home cleaning have rarely been studied.Objectives: To investigate the risk of new-onset asthma in relation ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Association of use of cleaning products with respiratory health in a Canadian birth cohort
BACKGROUND: Comprehensive longitudinal studies are important for understanding the complex risk factors, pathways, exposures and interactions that lead to the development and persistence of asthma. We aimed to examine associations between use of household cleaning products in early life and...
Their is actually precedent for that. Precedent for all sorts regulations on these things that are just plain common sense. I'm pretty glad my house isn't filled with asbestos and lead paint/pipes.We need to ban household cleaners
The Use of Household Cleaning Sprays and Adult Asthma: An International Longitudinal Study
Rationale: Cleaning work and professional use of certain cleaning products have been associated with asthma, but respiratory effects of nonprofessional home cleaning have rarely been studied.Objectives: To investigate the risk of new-onset asthma in relation ...
Association of use of cleaning products with respiratory health in a Canadian birth cohort
BACKGROUND: Comprehensive longitudinal studies are important for understanding the complex risk factors, pathways, exposures and interactions that lead to the development and persistence of asthma. We aimed to examine associations between use of household cleaning products in early life and...
I don't think lead and asbestos are the equivalent of Fabreeze and windex, but if you want that level of gov't involvement in your daily life, then I guess we'll struggle to reach any common ground.
You're dug in to hate whitey at all cost. cool
I'll go hang with my friend Brothers who don't share your racism. They are GD good neighbors, I am glad our neighbor hood doesn't have brothers like you. You are your own worst enemy. Everyone else is moving on. and succeeding. Good luck but your dead to me until you own your own shortsightedness.
No obviously not. But we have banned other similar things. CFC Aerosols come to mind.
I feel the same way, you want to hide under no racism and keep things the status quo. Things are better for you the way it is. Like I said before I speak the truth my truth. Count your blessings you did not have to live my life. Besides I could not live in your neighborhood.
You are correct. My black neighbors and I are equals and they know it. You couldn’t live here.
We share mowing grass, garden vegatibles, fishing and crabbing from each others properties, no questions asked. Open respectable sharing with no bullshit of what happened 100 yrs ago.
Both they and I, didn’t become friends and equals, by focusing on our grand fathers, grand fathers.
But you keep doing you. If you wear a flak jacket, maybe you can live through the racism of businesses moving out of the DMZ.
Good luck, but if you want to be free of that horse shit. I’ve got a fishing pole that I’d love to share with you.
The offer is open.
Maybe one day I could enjoy your invitation but because I made it .I can not forget the brothers that are left behind. Read the story on Rasheed Cartera 25 yo black man. A young man walking home from work trying to do the right thing. Graduate from college got a job. Walking home went to the police . He told them some ppl were following him, asking for a ride. They said no. I believe he was in a sundown town so it's not safe for him to be in that city. He went again they said no 2 or 3 pickup loads of white people. They chased him into the woods. Unfortunately for them, he was talking to his mother. The police said he was missing. They found his body, beheaded, dismember, and castrated. All of his teeth were pulled out. The sad fact when a young black man goes missing, he does not have a heavy police response. but LET that be a white girl. there would be copters, national guards people, and dogs looking for her. JOE, I'M NOT A RACIST but I will not turn my back on my people. You said I'm living in the happened in the past . This was 2023. This could be my son or grandson. My heart is broken. I am angry. There are people who will not let me live in peace. I believe a lot of posters on here believe,.I'm racist but I speak the truth. I'm just tolerated in this country. I'm glad you have black friends that live safe lives. yes, I will have my flak jacket and carry my gun. We can be attacked just by going home and not bothering anybody. This is why black people have a low regard for the police. They serve and protect their own. I thank you Joe_Hoopsier for allowing me to share my pain. I believe you are a pretty good guy.
NO I do not hate whitey but I do hate what he does. Sorry, you think I'M Short-sighted. I'M NOT My worse enemy but I do not wear rose color glasses. There is a lot of hate in this country and some people have become emboldened with that hate. Especially after Trump.
Yep. In my opinion they have just a couple more marbles than the flat earthersUntil this thread, I had no idea the paranoid set thought walkable cities was a nefarious plot.
Walkable Cities Are New Theme of Conspiracy Theories, Local Rage
A municipal meeting in a small English town offers a case study.www.bloomberg.com
Since when is posting an entire article acceptable around these parts?The Green Fraud
By Jim Rickards
RICKARDS
Those yelling the loudest about climate change want to destroy the oil and natural gas industry, destroy nuclear power plant construction, shut down coal-fired plants, end coal mining, mandate electric vehicles (EVs) on very short deadlines and eliminate gas stoves in your kitchen, fireplaces and even outdoor barbecues.
They also want to build wind turbine arrays offshore and on deserts, plains and even mountains near you. They want to install solar module fields on every rooftop and open space near a population center. The climate change radicals want to increase the mining of lithium, nickel, cobalt, copper, rare earths and other dangerous chemicals to feed their obsession with EV batteries.
They’re spending hundreds of billions of tax dollars to subsidize the EVs, battery manufacturing and a coast-to-coast network of charging stations to keep the EVs moving (even if they do have to stop for a charge every 180 miles).
The greenies also want to mandate “15-minute cities” where you can walk everywhere in town within 15 minutes, which means you won’t need your car to visit a doctor, dry cleaner, grocery store, pharmacy or any of the other locations we routinely visit for errands and necessities.
That may sound attractive if you chose it voluntarily. That’s not what the greenies have in mind. They want 15-minute cities as a Trojan horse to eliminate automobiles entirely and force you to ride bicycles or use public transportation. In the end, you’ll need a permit to fly to another city.
The permits will be rationed and you’ll have to put yourself on a waiting list until your turn. You can pay for your ticket with the new central bank digital currency (CBDC), assuming your social credit score is high enough and you didn’t vote for the wrong candidate in the last election.
In short, the climate change agenda is not about climate change. It’s about total political and economic control of the population. So-called climate change is an elite scare tactic to get you to fall into line and obey government orders (as most people do).
Elites claim that if we don’t radically reduce CO2 (carbon dioxide) and CH4 (methane) emissions, global warming will melt the ice caps, raise sea levels, put island nations underwater and flood the New York City subway system in 10 years or less. They’ve been making similar claims for 40 years and they’ve been wrong every time. That doesn’t stop them. Fear works.
What is new is that the climate crowd now has the political power they need to push their agenda using fear and the regulatory state to attack your means of transportation, your personal conveniences and your consumer choices.
This is being enabled by Joe Biden and thousands of bureaucrats buried in the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the Department of Energy (DOE), the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) and scores of other agencies.
The U.S. Treasury, SEC and the Federal Reserve have even joined in by regulating loans to the oil and gas industry and requiring financial disclosures about climate change and other ESG (environment, social and governance) metrics.
Meanwhile, the World Bank (controlled by the U.S.) is being encouraged to deny loans to industries that involve carbon-based development and to steer financing toward projects approved by the climate mavens. This is called the “all of government” approach in which every agency gets involved in pushing the climate agenda, even if it’s not the primary job of that agency. The pressure never stops.
In short, the climate change debate could not be more relevant to investors. Those calling the shots in the Green New Deal (what I call the Green New Scam) will decide which industries win or lose, which projects get financed (or not), which initiatives are subsidized by the government or left to wither on the vine and which companies will feel the regulatory heat if they don’t get with Biden’s programs.
Climate change is not a sideshow. Nothing is more relevant to markets, investors and asset allocators today.
Climate change is real but it’s slow and powerful and has nothing to do with trace gasses such as carbon dioxide and methane. It’s caused by the interaction of complex systems such as sun cycles, ocean currents, wind patterns including the jet stream, volcanic activity, salinity levels (in turn caused by ocean current subduction) and other mega-systems over which humans have no control.
We’re living in a world where major forces beyond our control have been hijacked by elites to create a climate of fear to achieve their agenda of total government command over your life. It’s time for Americans and citizens around the world to learn the facts, push back on the elites and reestablish public policy based on real science. It’s time to push the flawed models, phony data and bogus warnings out of the way.
Unfortunately, the public relies on media elites and political leaders for their information. As decades roll by and scare stories are discredited time and again, public skepticism will rise and the alarmists will lose credibility.
The danger is that alarmists may pass legislation, limit choices and impose costs in the name of climate change before the public catches on to the scam. At that point, the economic damage becomes semi-permanent even if alarmism fades.
In the elites’ vision, citizens will be confined to small towns or cities for extended periods. Travel will be tightly restricted. Appliances will be downsized with no consumer choice allowed. Taxes will be imposed on targeted activities to discourage use. Education will be turned to indoctrination to raise a generation who believe in the climate lies needed to gain support for these measures (that kind of indoctrination has been underway for some years).
Welcome to the world of the green elite. It’s coercive, restrictive, arrogant and apparently not much fun. It’s a world where the elites control everything and you do as you’re told. It’s a world based on lies and fear. It’s coming sooner than you expect unless citizens can join hands, reassert the truth and push the elites back into a corner where they belong.
Regards,
Jim Rickards
Your house wouldn’t be filled with asbestos or lead paint even if there were 0 regulations against them.
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