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[bailey777]

It has only been 17 months since he has taken office and he has managed to drop the market below 30,000. His administration has managed to destroy almost everything in the economy and the world order. So educate me, tell me why we are better off today than we were in 2017, 18 and 19 with the trump administration. Leave the democracy crap out of your discussion, the same could made against biden.

Yeah Bowlmania's boy is starting to lose the New York Times and the Washington Post now. That is when you know you have really sunk low. And the thing is everyday it gets worse. I have read Biden is pretty arrogant and thinks he is doing a great job so he may still try and run which will force an ugly primary. That would be alot fun to watch!!


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[td75]

Bless your heart. I hope you’re alive to read the historical take. I doubt that there will ever be any president rated worse than Trump. The ignorance in his cult grows by the day.

The growth of my wallet under Trump gives him an A+....I vote my wallet, sir.

 

[bub-rub]

It has only been 17 months since he has taken office and he has managed to drop the market below 30,000. His administration has managed to destroy almost everything in the economy and the world order. So educate me, tell me why we are better off today than we were in 2017, 18 and 19 with the trump administration. Leave the democracy crap out of your discussion, the same could made against biden.

hate to piss in the punch bowl by the last dude had a great economy until covid. Current dude had a great economy until Ukraine. We should be electing presidents on their ability to handle the inevitable crisis that pops up during every presidency. It’s like clockwork. We eat our hats when the hopes and dreams we had for their four years go sideways but it always goes sideways. Always. Besides, congress is much more responsible for domestic policy than the prez and foreign policy takes more than two presidential terms to really change.

frankly, our tribe should have both a “peacetime chief” and a “wartime/ crisis chief” with the latter always being a woman.

this is the way. Lol

 

[IUNorth]

Agree on many counts. I think the Dems are in a lot of trouble going forward. They have a cult/progressives problem on their hands. Their policies are proven failures, yet they are very loud, have the ears and eyes of social media, media and Hollywood, and aren't going away. In many ways I think the Dems would benefit from the progressives just breaking off into their own party. I think a centrist democratic party is what most of the country prefers. I truly believe the lion's share of people are center to slightly center

Could be true, for sure. My perception for the Dems issue, and maybe its your point, is they're being led by groups of thoughts and groups of ideals...that don't necessarily jive with the majority of their party, let alone the majority of Americans.

I think the Republicans are as well, but those thoughts and ideals have cyrstalized down into 1 singular human being. It will be interesting where the Republican party goes when Trump is no longer the guiding light.

The conditions that created the possibility for a Trump Presidency will remain, however. But I agree, I think the Republicans are better suited to "regroup" and get the cart back on the road, than the democrats are.

But we're all in this shit sandwich situation because BOTH carts are broken and in a ditch right now.

 

[outside shooter]

The growth of my wallet under Trump gives him an A+....I vote my wallet, sir.

You wallet did great under Obama too. Did you vote with your wallet there? I didn't, by the way, since I voted GOP exclusively in presential elections in 1980, 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008, and 2012.

Some presidents luck out with a great economy in their first term and then it goes to crap in their second term. Like Nixon, when inflation went from 3% in his first term to 11.4% in his second, with lines for gas everywhere. If you were old enough and went by the "vote my wallet" mantra, you would apparently have wanted Nixon reelected and then blamed him for not being like himself, after relection. Bizarre.

 

[Cortez88]

My concern is the progressives are not as concerned about Dems losing seats because they'll probably be moderate Dems who pay the price as progressives are from more liberal districts anyway. This will give progressives even more control of the party.

Seems pretty much like MAGA wing of the GOP cutting down so many conservatives as RINOS doesn’t it? Party leadership needs to step up and tell these extremes that they don’t get to drive the agenda.

 

[hoot1]

Why isn't our democracy more like the Chicago Cub management ?

In spite of having to rebuild and continuing to lose games the Cub management extended the contract of field manager Dave Ross. This is in contrast to our body politic which appears to want Joe Biden fired.

The Cub management seems to know Ross is facing some tough challenges. We the People think Biden is making decisions which make tough challenges worse than they should be.

Personal observation: Dave Ross in spite of losing appears to be in charge, Joe Biden doesn't.

 

[IUNorth]

You wallet did great under Obama too. Did you vote with your wallet there? I didn't, by the way, since I voted GOP exclusively in presential elections in 1980, 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008, and 2012.

Some presidents luck out with a great economy in their first term and then it goes to crap in their second term. Like Nixon, when inflation went from 3% in his first term to 11.4% in his second, with lines for gas everywhere. If you were old enough and went by the "vote my wallet" mantra, you would apparently have wanted Nixon reelected and then blamed him for not being like himself, after relection. Bizarre.

Obama inherited Economic Armageddon...and turned it around, creating a booming economy for most segments and people, by the end of his presidency.

Trump inherited that boom...and pushed it to greater heights, before a catastrophic event derailed everything...he handled that event horrifically badly in many ways, but one thing that did happen due to Covid, was a huge shift towards Demand in most industries...which helped a lot of people financially.

Biden inherited that climate, which I call an "Economy with a sugar high". Various things happened outside his control that started the sugar crash, but he has made numerous horrific decisions to accelerate the crash. "Normal" people are taking it on the chin right now...everyone will be sucked into it soon enough. It doesn't seem like he will be able to right the ship, and get it turned around...but we'll see.

I wasn't a huge Obama fan, overall, when it all ended...but man what I wouldn't give to have someone like him in the White House right about now. A moderate Republican would be sooooooooooo good for our country right now. If that person governed as a moderate Republican, and/or was allowed to do so.

 

[ribbont]

If he gets blame for anything bad in the economy, then why not credit for anything good?

Likely because 1) there were major policy changes that were implemented in ARP and oil, and 2) it takes time for those policies to have an impact.

Usually the first year of a president's term is hangover from the previous president. So, yes, 2017 was partly due to Obama, until Trump policies kicked in and made 2018 and 2019 as good if not better than Obamas years, depending what metrics one uses.

And 2021 was partly due to Trump, until Biden's policies kicked in and made 2022 as bad as it has been, so far.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Obama inherited Economic Armageddon...and turned it around, creating a booming economy for most segments and people, by the end of his presidency.

Trump inherited that boom...and pushed it to greater heights, before a catastrophic event derailed everything...he handled that event horrifically badly in many ways, but one thing that did happen due to Covid, was a huge shift towards Demand in most industries...which helped a lot of people financially.

Biden inherited that climate, which I call an "Economy with a sugar high". Various things happened outside his control that started the sugar crash, but he has made numerous horrific decisions to accelerate the crash. "Normal" people are taking it on the chin right now...everyone will be sucked into it soon enough. It doesn't seem like he will be able to right the ship, and get it turned around...but we'll see.

I wasn't a huge Obama fan, overall, when it all ended...but man what I wouldn't give to have someone like him in the White House right about now. A moderate Republican would be sooooooooooo good for our country right now. If that person governed as a moderate Republican, and/or was allowed to do so.

Exactly

 

[dbmhoosier]

Never forget that Trump voters are the delusional ones 😂😂😂

 

[JamieDimonsBalls]

I'm thanking him for all the money he made me by managing to keep the market at an all-time high throughout most of his Administration.

I'll be sure to check in with you and bump this around Thanksgiving time.

 

[stollcpa]

That's kind of what I'm saying. If Trump supporters want to talk about the economy humming along from 2017-19, they have to acknowledge the craptastic COVID response and his administration's' impact on the current economy.

If that’s the case, why was everything kind of okay for year of Biden?

 

[Eurocyldon]

November will be here soon and let's see if things get any better for Sleepy Joe. Heading toward official recession. Food shortages. Possible wars with China and Russia. Maybe some never ending hearings and impeachment. Some committees on Hunter 'The Coke Machine' Biden. Some made up leaks. Maybe Hillary will role out a new Russia Hoax to finish off Joe so she can take yet another shot at the WH.

 

[sku]

That's kind of what I'm saying. If Trump supporters want to talk about the economy humming along from 2017-19, they have to acknowledge the craptastic COVID response and his administration's' impact on the current economy.

If biden was President at that time we might still waiting on a vaccine.

 

[Ohio Guy]

If biden was President at that time we might still waiting on a vaccine.

The Trump Administration did help to facilitate a fast development of the vaccine, but the Biden Administration did do a pretty good job of rolling it out. I don't think it would have been politically advantageous for them to hold up developing it.

 

[dbmhoosier]

No refunds libs.

 

[JamieDimonsBalls]

No refunds.

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Good, I need some value detraction

 

[Harry Hondo]

Which Democratic policies are proven failures? They seemed to hum right along for a good portion of the 2010s. I'm not sure that anyone is arguing that Biden is handling things as well as he could/should, but to dismiss the entire Democratic platform based on his presidency is wrong, in my opinion.

Certainly what sunk Biden and rose inflation was too many covid stimulus packages. I think the country was on its way back and the Dems kept pushing trillion dollar spending bills. Had Biden just stuck with the infrastructure bill we’d be okay. The national unemployment rate is just 3.6%, which normally gets you high approval marks.

 

[ulrey]

We aren't better off. The God-awful Trump response to the pandemic made sure we couldn't avoid the worldwide economic collapse, despite our standing as the sole economic superpower.

We would 100% be in worse economic shape if that traitorous stupid criminal were still in office.

The cult of orange will never admit it though. When inflation went from 3% in Nixon's first term to 11.4% in his second term, these numbnuts would have been whining about how they should have voted for Nixon instead of Nixon.

This administration is filled with ****ing idiots!

 

[Crayfish57]

Ha - good point. If Trump supporters can point to '17 - '19, then why can't people who support Biden talk about his first 13 months in office?

I can talk about them, they were a disaster only eclipsed by the last 4 months.

 

[ulrey]

There’s no point in having a discussion with people who do not understand that we are in a global situation stemming from the pandemic aftermath and the war.And no, the “ democracy crap” cannot be said for Biden. Please educate yourself on what is happening around the world, not just the US.
I’m betting you have blue hair?

 

[Crayfish57]

There’s no point in having a discussion with people who do not understand that we are in a global situation stemming from the pandemic aftermath and the war.And no, the “ democracy crap” cannot be said for Biden. Please educate yourself on what is happening around the world, not just the US.

Please educate yourself on what is happening around the world, not just the US.

You should really try giving that a shot yourself. I doubt it would improve your stupid posts but it's worth a shot.

 

[bawlmer]

The Trump Administration did help to facilitate a fast development of the vaccine, but the Biden Administration did do a pretty good job of rolling it out. I don't think it would have been politically advantageous for them to hold up developing it.

By the time warp speed got up and running pharma was well on its way, especially the 3 successful ones. The critical program was BARDA, which has supported vaccine readiness for years before COVID hit. The administration did guarantee purchase for the successful vaccines (but that wasn't really in doubt, either).

 

[Ohio Guy]

The growth of my wallet under Trump gives him an A+....I vote my wallet, sir.

This is a weird metric to measure things by. Based on that logic, I should be looking into ways for Obama to get a third term.

 

[Crayfish57]

Bless your heart. I hope you’re alive to read the historical take. I doubt that there will ever be any president rated worse than Trump. The ignorance in his cult grows by the day.

Aw sweetie TDS still rotting your brain isn't it? Have you heard of Joe Biden? If not, take time to educate yourself about him and what he has done in 18 months and just think he has 30 more to go .

 

[td75]

This is a weird metric to measure things by. Based on that logic, I should be looking into ways for Obama to get a third term.

Not really, Obama's last two years were kind to me but the first six years sucked.

 

[Lucy01]

Aw sweetie TDS still rotting your brain isn't it? Have you heard of Joe Biden? If not, take time to educate yourself about him and what he has done in 18 months and just think he has 30 more to go .

You do know Zekie Poo was a Union Official at one time ?

 

[outside shooter]

Not really, Obama's last two years were kind to me but the first six years sucked.

?? Maybe the first month, but not 6 years...

 

[i'vegotwinners]

?? Maybe the first month, but not 6 years...

"there's liars, damn liars, and statisticians".

Obama's percent increase numbers in the chart are due to his coming in to office just after the economic crash of 2008, so misleading.

and to Fed money printing.

Trump's percent increase numbers are due to Fed money printing.

neither reflect actual metrics performance of industries.

both are totally misleading of the actual economy, as both are based in Fed money printing, not industry performance.

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

Leave the "democracy crap" out? Lol.

Bidens economy is an assault on democracy. We need prime time hearings.

 

[walkerman]

Bless your heart. I hope you’re alive to read the historical take. I doubt that there will ever be any president rated worse than Trump. The ignorance in his cult grows by the day.

Actually Zeke, Buchanan and Johnson (Andrew) are both ranked just below him by every ranking I have seen.

 

[Crayfish57]

We aren't better off. The God-awful Trump response to the pandemic made sure we couldn't avoid the worldwide economic collapse, despite our standing as the sole economic superpower.

We would 100% be in worse economic shape if that traitorous stupid criminal were still in office.

The cult of orange will never admit it though. When inflation went from 3% in Nixon's first term to 11.4% in his second term, these numbnuts would have been whining about how they should have voted for Nixon instead of Nixon.

''We would 100% be in worse economic shape if that traitorous stupid criminal were still in office.''

Not sure who you are even referring to here? Nixon is dead and we still couldn't be in 100% worse shape if that is who you are talking about. A criminal would need to be convicted of something. Stupid? That sounds more like you and you are likely right as bad as Biden is there is no doubt it would be worse if you were in office

You are obviously highly emotional, I like most have assumed you are a man but sounds as though you are a woman in need of some Midol