18 Reasons I Won’t Be Getting A COVID Vaccine
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I like you better when you're drunk. lol
Of course, I like myself better when I'm drunk, too. I like everybody then!
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Someone else said what you are saying too. If I have the virus how do I spread it to more people whether I am vaccinated or not? How does that actually work?
As an IU grad, this thread is simply embarassing. My only hope is that the rubes here are non-grad fans.
IU profs and experiences on campus fine tuned my critical thinking skills, and the trumpsheep here have displayed a complete void in this area.
IU profs and experiences on campus fine tuned my critical thinking skills, and the trumpsheep here have displayed a complete void in this area.
Ancient Rome Gender studies degree? Just a guess.
Fine. Don't get vaccinated.
By the same libertarian thinking, medical providers ought to be able to refuse treatment to those who are unvaccinated. Makes perfect sense to me . . . if you're unwilling to do the preventative measures, medical personnel, hospitals, dentists, restaurant owners, servers . . . anybody . . . ought to be able to refuse you treatment and/or service. You can do whatever you want so long as you're willing to live with the consequences.
Your choice.
My ability to do what I think is best for me, is your cost of living in a "civilized" society. Your ability to force me to do what ever you want me to do, is not a cost I will pay nor is it "civilized".
It seems most all arguments between left and right are about the left wanting to force their will (wear your seat belt, pay more money to be distributed to others, Use your efforts to support those who won't), while the Right (apropriatly called that for a reason BTW) defends peoples rights that built this country.
Choosing not to take the vaccine yourself is not antivaxx. Choosing to come here and with an antivaxx link and tout it is crossing into advocacy and is antivaxx. You can sit at home quietly comfortable in your personal choice. Touting it becomes antivaxx.
Nope. Your cost of living in a civilized society is doing what it takes for all of us to survive shit like COVID. Otherwise, we'll devolve into a lawless society and shoot each other. (See Afghanistan.)
Covid vaccines reduce the risk of hospitalization and death from Covid to a fraction of 1%. They also help limit the spread of the virus, and they've already saved countless lives. Those facts are incontrovertible.
But sure, say "f*ck you" to social responsibility, and remember that it's all about you.
Right. The answer to “why should I get vaccinated?” really is “because it’s the right thing to do.” That used to mean something.
I’ve asked the folks who use rube on here to define exactly what a rube is. Will you?
Uh, look around...... if you live in an American city, your life is in danger just by a stray bullet.
By forcing Americans to do what's 'best for all', even though it's against their personal beliefs, more fringe groups will emerge and we will, indeed be the Balkans or another Afghanistan.
Death from Covid is already a fraction of 1% and has been since the beginning of the pandemic.
Excellent point - who gets to decide "what's best for all"?
Is double-billing best for all?
Considering that I (let alone many) have decided a different "what it takes" totally blows a hole in your "attempt to control others" opinion.
And your "shooting" analogy will become more and more a possibility the more people continue to deny (umm forceably remove) personal liberties. How about "we" just stop before that starts.
I generally teach by using examples. For you I would suggest reading the posts of the rubes in this and the other thread fight between science and trumpsheep.
These aren't "personal liberties" any more than going to school without a DPT shot is.
You can do what you want . . . but there will be consequences. Hopefully those consequences will prevent us from getting to the shooting stage . . .
The Long History of Coercive Health Responses in American Law
Americans are rediscovering the power of federal and state governments to enforce quarantine and isolation in the midst of the pandemic.
28th Amendment - Thou must do "The Right Thing" as prescribed by others opinion.These aren't "personal liberties" any more than going to school without a DPT shot is.
You can do what you want . . . but there will be consequences. Hopefully those consequences will prevent us from getting to the shooting stage . . .
The Long History of Coercive Health Responses in American Law
Americans are rediscovering the power of federal and state governments to enforce quarantine and isolation in the midst of the pandemic.www.lawfareblog.com
All this whining by the "personal freedom" crowd on here is just evidence of how weak we have become as a nation.These aren't "personal liberties" any more than going to school without a DPT shot is.
You can do what you want . . . but there will be consequences. Hopefully those consequences will prevent us from getting to the shooting stage . . .
The Long History of Coercive Health Responses in American Law
Americans are rediscovering the power of federal and state governments to enforce quarantine and isolation in the midst of the pandemic.
No one is forcing them to get a vaccine. Why would they be forcing others (business owners, teachers, doctors, nurses, people on airplanes, restaurant owners and patrons) to deal with them?
It's called a democracy for a reason . . . I look forward to seeing those campaigns based on your understanding of society. Please, please, run for office . . . .
I have people for that. They gave one heck of a powerful example of leadership last night in Alabama.
This is fun. lol Thanks Sope.
The notion that physicians and hospitals won’t treat, or would discrimate against unvaxxed is despicable and might be illegal under the myriad of federal health care regs. . It is certainly a violation of medical ethics. A few years ago, this would have been unheard of and widely condemned . Now it’s acceptable. We live in craziness.
I never said doctors should be able to refuse treatment to the unvaxxed. Never even hinted at it. I asked why the unvaxxed, who are all for personal liberty, would force themselves on the healthcare community that will treat them, regardless.
Nuance, baby.
Now, insurance companies, on the other hand...
not sure insurance would make much of a difference. i suspect most unvaccinated are of lower incomes and uninsured or medicaid
I know. But since you mentioned health care, I threw the legal/ethical issue on the table. My point about refusing care to the unvaxxed stands. That should be immediately condemned, but it isn’t.
So, a thinly-veiled attempt at a distraction.
Sorry for turning on the lights.
Two posts now and you still haven’t commented on the medical ethical issue of refusing treatment to the unvaxxed. About what I’d expect. Carry on.
Me big strong man. Me no need vaccine. Vaccine for pussies, not real men.
What these dipshits don’t pay attention to is the number of people hospitalized and the ease at which this virus is spread. Death rates aren’t filling the hospitals. More deaths just means more available beds. It’s the people hospitalized for days on end (and the actual number admitted) that’s the reason for the hospitals to be overfilled in some areas. You get it, yeah, you probably will survive, but will it be after your fat ass has taken up a hospital bed for 7-10 days? And will you require oxygen or suffer from blood clots for the rest of your life? I have to say, if you’re an unvaccinated f***wit who won’t wear a simple little mask or take any other precautions, I hope that is how you end up. (None of this is directed at you Bulk)
Of course it is wrong. But in numerous counties right now there are insufficient ICU beds/staffing. So doctors are going to choose between the COVID patient, the gunshot wound, and the car accident victim as to which gets the bed and which two will have to make do.
Since COVID started some have said we need a system that slows COVID as the rate begins taxing healthcare. There are some who have argued that any effort to slow COVID is wrong and a violation of their rights.
I note some have straddled that fence refusing to say that such triage is wrong when we have options to stop it's need.
You mean two posts after you tried to change the subject of my post, which you have failed to address? That issue? I thought it was understood that medical/ethical standards were clear that refusing care to the unvaxxed is against accepted procedure. I certainly don't advocate for withholding treatment, and I'm not sure where I gave that impression.
You know, every now and then, if you just admitted that you were full of shit on something, you would be a much more enjoyable poster. Hell, I like reading your posts as it is, and learn about topics all the time, but the icing on the cake would be the occasional admission of obvious bullshit.
I do it all the time, and look how popular I am. I bet if DANC had the balls to take me off ignore, he would enjoy my witty repartee as well.
Don't be Ed Rooney, Coh.
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