"No it's that there are certain posters, you, shitter, cosmic, who support the left irrespective of facts, etc. Once you see the letter D you support them"
So you name 3 posters on the left that you feel support that premise, which is fine and represents your subjective analysis... But I see at least double that many (if not more) easily on the Right who would fit that bill. So I'm curious which 6 or 9 or 10 posters on the Right you'd throw into that category?
"What's more any issue that you believe is damaging to dems, even if they are facts, you discount or put one of your inane emojis. Someone says 24 of the 25 most dangerous cities in america are run by democrats you'll put a laughing emoji. Why? that's a fact. "
Now we may unintentionally be dealing with semantics here, because the studies that Hickory, myself and others refer to are based on murders per capita, and you cite "most dangerous cities" . So maybe we're not just looking at possibly competing studies, but a different topic altogether as well...
Now you may not choose to accept the study that myself and people like Gavin Newsom and others reference, but with regards to the third way study of 2020 murder rates, you don't get to arbitrarily apply your definition of facts beyond your personal opinion. This is murder rates per capita for 2020, and how those states voted in 2020...
"But there is a large piece of the homicide story that is missing and calls into question the veracity of the right-wing obsession over homicides in Democratic cities: murder rates are far higher in Trump-voting red states than Biden-voting blue states. And sometimes, murder rates are highest in cities with Republican mayors.
For example, Jacksonville, a city with a Republican mayor, had 128 more murders in 2020 than San Francisco, a city with a Democrat mayor, despite their comparable populations. In fact, the homicide rate in Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s San Francisco was half that of House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy’s Bakersfield, a city with a Republican mayor that overwhelmingly voted for Trump. Yet there is barely a whisper, let alone an outcry, over the stunning levels of murders in these and other places.
We collected 2019 and 2020 murder data from all 50 states. (Comprehensive 2021 data is not yet available.) We pulled the data from yearly crime reports released by state governments, specifically the Departments of Justice and Safety. For states that didn’t issue state crime reports, we pulled data from reputable local news sources. To allow for comparison, we calculated the state’s per capita murder rate, the number of murders per 100,000 residents, and categorized states by their presidential vote in the 2020 election, resulting in an even 25-25 split.
We found that murder rates are, on average, 40% higher in the 25 states Donald Trump won in the last presidential election compared to those that voted for Joe Biden. In addition, murder rates in many of these red states dwarf those in blue states like New York, California, and Massachusetts. And finally, many of the states with the worst murder rates—like Mississippi, Kentucky, Alabama, South Carolina, and Arkansas—are ones that few would describe as urban. Only 2 of America’s top 100 cities in population are located in these high murder rate states. And not a single one of the top 10 murder states registers in the top 15 for population density.
Whether one does or does not blame Republican leaders for high murder rates, it seems that Republican officeholders do a better job of blaming Democrats for lethal crime than actually reducing lethal crime."
Third Way
I also thought it noteworthy that when comparing the rise in murder rates from 2019 to 2020, the average in Trump voting states was slightly higher 32.2% compared to 30.8% increase across all Biden states. But in light of this past week's Wyoming Primary, I found it interesting that the state with the most significant rise in murders from 2019 to 2020 was Wyoming, at a whopping 91.7% increase...
