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Trump Trial - New York

What do you think is the most likely outcome in the New York trial?

  • A guilty verdict on some or all of the counts

  • An acquittal ("total exoneration!")

  • A hung jury (jury cannot reach a unanimous decision and a mistrial is declared)

  • Trump pleads guilty to something prior to a verdict being rendered

  • Other (for example, a mistrial based on something other than a hung jury)


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It always is. And corruption by Trump and his staff.
It’s a corrupt lawsuit motivated by a biased prosecutor. And as mark Milton wrote a jury will have a hard time connecting the dots. If they have a brain they’ll say I spent 6 weeks for $30 a day or whatever sitting through this stupid shit and these goofy witnesses

But nyc has gone insane. Trump should have short circuited it all with an Alford
 
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I have no idea what you think any of this shows. Btw when the reference in Jan 2021 is to the WH, they mean the Trump WH. Trump left the WH in Jan 2021 and I don't think it was until that summer before NRA first noticed the missing documents and notified him, under the provisions of the PRA... For reference...

"Under the Presidential Records Act, presidential records are considered federal, not private property and must be turned over to the National Archives and Records Administration. Multiple federal laws govern the handling of classified and sensitive documents, including statutes making it a crime to remove such material and keep it at an unauthorized location."

If Biden's DOJ "cooked up a document mishandling case vs Trump" as Julie Kelly alledges then they sure took their time and gave him multiple opportunities to return the documents. NARA didn't even contact the DOJ till nearly a year after they first notified Trump that documents were missing and requested he return them...

Why am I not surprised that dbm posts nonsense and you join in? Maybe you can help dbm out and explain exactly what you think these tweets signify?

Interesting that on a day when actual bombshells were revealed from actual witness interviews you guys chose to focus on whatever it is you think the tweets show. I read the unredacted portions, and like I said I don't think they say what you think they say.

On the other hand Person 16 has recounted that Nauta was apparently promised a pardon from FPOTUS Trump in 2024 if he lied to the FBI for Trump. And a really big bombeshell that person 16 in the fall of 2021 urged Trump to return what person 16 characterized as "Govt property" that if he failed to return would likely lead to an indictment. There was also mention of Trump being swayed by person 48, which indicates the scope of the total amount of people the FBI has interviewed, and why Trump is in deep doo doo...

Trump's business organization was convicted of 17 felonies. His CFO is a convicted felon. His personal lawyer, GC and "fixer" is a convicted felon. Trump's "university" was shut down because he was ripping off students. His charitable foundation was shut down because he was stealing from it. Yet somehow we're supposed to believe Trump is clean, and that the reason he's been indicted in NY is because Biden planted a DOJ official in the Manhattan DA's office to concoct charges against Trump. Hilarious!
 
that's perfect!!!!!!! that ole trump is somethin else lol. she's from THE REGION

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Of course they do. But that’s not what this is about.
what it's about is a prosecutor who campaigned to find a way to get trump. personal animus. not the role of a prosecutor. what's more trump didn't even win NY. it's the criminal equivalent of the civil fraud action brought by the state where the actual party involved didn't pursue anything bc they weren't damaged

it's politics by way of the courts. people do things wrong all of the time that prosecutors don't elect to pursue. Soros' prosecutors dump thousands and thousands of cases per year where there are actual victims

it's a stupid, biased, political case - and i'm sure trump did what he was accused of doing. discretion would dictate to leave it alone.

as i've said i wouldn't fk with any of these people. don't give them the satisfaction. alford and move on.
 
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I guess Adams and Jefferson should have been thrown in jail, then. And probably every other candidate for the presidency since.
Don’t know. Post a link where they used campaign funds to pay for shtupping a porn star.
 
what it's about is a prosecutor who campaigned to find a way to get trump. personal animus. not the role of a prosecutor. what's more trump didn't even win NY. it's the criminal equivalent of the civil fraud action brought by the state where the actual party involved didn't pursue anything bc they weren't damaged

it's politics by way of the courts. people do things wrong all of the time that prosecutors don't elect to pursue. Soros' prosecutors dump thousands and thousands of cases per year where there are actual victims

it's a stupid, biased, political case - and i'm sure trump did what he was accused of doing. discretion would dictate to leave it alone.

as i've said i wouldn't fk with any of these people. don't give them the satisfaction. alford and move on.
Well good for the prosecutor. Everyone. In NYC knows how corrupt Trump is and that he’s been getting away with it for decades. About time someone had the balls to go after him. Get him for whatever you can, there’s plenty he’s gotten away with that they can’t get him for.
 
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"Having tabloids post lies about your opponent, and getting the ok to help your campaign sounds like election interference to me, Sorry." Post#401, written about 45 minutes ago.
Right. That too. Were there tabloids then?
 
Well good for the prosecutor. Everyone. In NYC knows how corrupt Trump is and that he’s been getting away with it for decades. About time someone had the balls to go after him. Get him for whatever you can, there’s plenty he’s gotten away with that they can’t get him for.
Not how it works. As I’ve said before there’s nothing more dangerous to this country than progressives. Nothing.
 
Having tabloids post lies about your opponent, and getting the ok to help your campaign sounds like election interference to me, Sorry.
Morally, it is. But legally, no way. Part of freedom of speech is freedom to lie (in most cases), and the freedom to lie is most strongly protected in political campaigns, because interference in the democratic process is the most dangerous possible infringement of free speech.
 
Having tabloids post lies about your opponent, and getting the ok to help your campaign sounds like election interference to me, Sorry.
Who do you think paid for the story about a mythical videotape of Trump watching or having prostitutes pee on him?



 
Who do you think paid for the story about a mythical videotape of Trump watching or having prostitutes pee on him?


Point of fact: he paid them to pee on the bed that Obama slept in. They didn't pee on him.
 
Don’t know. Post a link where they used campaign funds to pay for shtupping a porn star.
This is the part I don’t get. The argument is that the election WOULD HAVE turned out differently had Trump not paid off Daniels, if i understand it correctly. IE, the public would have known about the affair and may have voted differently.

Therefore, its election fraud.

But how can that be proven? That’s like proving the existence of something that doesn’t exist. There’s no way to PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt that the election would have turned out differently.

What am I missing?
 
We are very very close to a point, where we experience EVERY DIRTY SWAMP TRICK has been tried and failed. The Swamp has spent more collateral on Trump than Russia has Ukraine. They won't just throw their hands in the air, surrender and admit their lives to Prison.... They will go out with their stupidest peoples hair on fire. If Trump is alive at election time.... I will be totally shocked. TOTALLY ! They simply will not allow all of these back channel swamp thing to be found out, even if they have to wipe 1/2 million around MAR A Largo to cover up their control they have over us.
 
Well good for the prosecutor. Everyone. In NYC knows how corrupt Trump is and that he’s been getting away with it for decades. About time someone had the balls to go after him. Get him for whatever you can, there’s plenty he’s gotten away with that they can’t get him for.
No he hasn't. Trump has been investigated more than any man in history and they still can't prove any crime. Meanwhile Dems get away with actual murder. Murder. And then you still come on here and preach about having one system of justice and no one above the law.


 
This is the part I don’t get. The argument is that the election WOULD HAVE turned out differently had Trump not paid off Daniels, if i understand it correctly. IE, the public would have known about the affair and may have voted differently.

Therefore, its election fraud.

But how can that be proven? That’s like proving the existence of something that doesn’t exist. There’s no way to PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt that the election would have turned out differently.

What am I missing?
What if you introduce people like Zeke and Aloha and Comic (scream team) comments about Trump being a slut, rapist and unfit to be president.... BEFORE this story came out. Do you think that Stormy $ and an accounting report would have changed their stance? Even affect it in anyway?
Those who hated, need to check their own house. This was fuel for the hatred fire, not somthing to change any fence straddlers opinions.
 
This is the part I don’t get. The argument is that the election WOULD HAVE turned out differently had Trump not paid off Daniels, if i understand it correctly. IE, the public would have known about the affair and may have voted differently.

Therefore, its election fraud.

But how can that be proven? That’s like proving the existence of something that doesn’t exist. There’s no way to PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt that the election would have turned out differently.

What am I missing?

No one can say that it would have made a difference. But that's not the point. The point they hope to make is that the Trump campaign believed it would make a difference and they violated campaign finance laws to keep the affair from going public, based on that belief. They know that acknowledging that would be tantamount to breaking the law, hence the claim it was to "protect" Melania.
 
Trump says he'll testify. That's a good one!
Trump also said he will repeal and replace Obamacare and build a big beautiful wall from San Diego to Brownsville and make Mexico pay for it.

Trump lies and owes it to the country to take the witness stand in one of his many cases -- I don't care which. It will do the country good to see that old lying sack of shit get up there and make a fool of himself.
 
Well good for the prosecutor. Everyone. In NYC knows how corrupt Trump is and that he’s been getting away with it for decades. About time someone had the balls to go after him. Get him for whatever you can, there’s plenty he’s gotten away with that they can’t get him for.
He was probably complaining when capone got arrested and convicted of tax evasion
 
Trump also said he will repeal and replace Obamacare and build a big beautiful wall from San Diego to Brownsville and make Mexico pay for it.

Trump lies and owes it to the country to take the witness stand in one of his many cases -- I don't care which. It will do the country good to see that old lying sack of shit get up there and make a fool of himself.
Check the border crossing numbers between administrations. Learn something. Then read Biden’s actions re the border after taking office. The country gets to see what an absolute lying sack of shit and fool biden is damn nearly every day. premium gas in calif is almost $8, the guy can barely walk, and he's talking about cannibals eating his family. give me a break
 
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No one can say that it would have made a difference. But that's not the point. The point they hope to make is that the Trump campaign believed it would make a difference and they violated campaign finance laws to keep the affair from going public, based on that belief. They know that acknowledging that would be tantamount to breaking the law, hence the claim it was to "protect" Melania.
So exactly like the NY trails, the DC trials, the Fl trails ad the Georgia trails, CNN, MSNDNC and e jean squirell feeder trial.
We may have made a break through here.
 
No he hasn't. Trump has been investigated more than any man in history and they still can't prove any crime.
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Other than when Trump's business organization was convicted of 17 felonies?

Other than when Trump's "university" was shut down because he was ripping off students?

Other than when his charitable foundation was shut down because the foundation was stealing from kids with cancer?

Other than the housing crimes as a young slumlord?

I could go on an an and on... but Bowlmania got it started
 
well i'm pretty sure he falsified records. and given the timing of same i don't think it's a stretch that he did so so that voters wouldn't know and a brief scan of the relevant election laws might be problematic.

the good news is i dont see him going to jail
Do you know whether the prosecutor must prove that (1) Trump's only motive to falsify the documents was to influence the election or (2) even if Trump claims he had several other motives to falsify the documents one of these motives was definitely to influence the election?
 
Do you know whether the prosecutor must prove that (1) Trump's only motive to falsify the documents was to influence the election or (2) even if Trump claims he had several other motives to falsify the documents one of these motives was definitely to influence the election?
i don't give a shit. i hope trump gets off. i can't stand these goofy ass liberal prosecutors. i think he should seek an alford and stick it right in the judge's face and say i'm the republican nominee leading in the polls to be the president. sentence me. you. let's go. the entire country is watching you and you alone.
 
I've been arguing this the whole time. How in the hell are Trump's lawyers supposed to prepare a defense if they don't even know what law he's accused of breaking? Completely unconstitutional and this hoax should've been thrown out from the jump.

 
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