Truly unbelievable
- Thread starter td75
- Start date
Studies show that claims of “moving the goal posts” is the third most common phrase to show an inability to think and respond. It is right behind “lack self awareness” and “reality based”.
Go back to your incel internet buddies and discuss the finer points of not being able to get any.
I am a “Chad” just like incel TMP said. The only time he’s been right on here.
People defending Biden on here makes it read like; Water Cooler- Special victims Unit.
Who is defending Biden? Just about everyone posting over the last week or so has fully admitted that the withdraw was handled poorly. I'd honestly be curious to see examples of anyone defending Biden on this.
Can you please link those "studies"?
On the other hand, I've read several studies that show that making half-assed arguments, then accusing the other party of lacking "nuance" is the 1st most common tactic of blowhards.
To the dumbasses, not swallowing the "fact" that Trump would have flown in as Iron Man with Thor's hammer and Captain America's shield and put a beat down on the Ten Rings is defending Biden.
Trump humpers have always lived in a world of fantasy. In Trump they saw a working man’s hero and Trump probably couldn’t even start up a lawnmower. In all fairness, that inability could be due to 1) lack of strength to sufficiently pull the cord or 2) being a f***ing dumbass. I’ll give even odds.
I don't think it's outrageous to suggest that Bush, Obama, Clinton, or hell, even President IUCrazy2, would have handled it better. None of them suffer from the single-minded desire to get the hell out of Afghanistan at all costs that Biden and Trump seem to share, and I do think it's possible that strong desire might have colored Biden's decision-making, just as it likely colored Trump's re: Doha.
But, when push comes to shove, none of these tactical decisions were made in the Oval Office. All tactics, strategies, etc. were developed by people at all levels of the military and intelligence bureaucracy, and the president's job is really just to sign off on them. So I'm guessing any differences in these other possible hypothetical administrations would have been relatively minor. What we saw unfold this summer was probably written back when the surge failed to completely destroy the Taliban, and NATO began handing operations over to the Afghans.
Of course, there are other things that we'll simply have to wait to judge. These stories about the level of coordination between us and the Taliban on security - particularly the ones about giving them names of people who should be passed through the checkpoints - are troubling, but the results will tell. If it turns out the people on those lists were passed through the checkpoints and included among the people who escaped, then that's one thing. If it turns out there are names of Afghans on a list somewhere who didn't get out, and a few months from now, the Taliban goes around and collects and executes those people, then that's another thing entirely.
Ironically, Taliban 2.0 may be someone we have to get into bed with reluctantly, in order to properly fight ISKP, which is sadly poetic, since ISKP is made up of Taliban castoffs and really only exists as a result of our defeat of Taliban 1.0 in the first place.
So, Trump couldn’t beat “sleepy ol’ dementia Joe”, but he would’ve wiped out the Taliban and handled the withdrawal without a hiccup. Believe me.
Exactly. I made the same point a few days ago. All these local, tactical, on the ground decisions are being made by those close to the action, apparently based on bad intel and lousy contingency planning. Sure, buck stops and all that shit, but acting like Joe is directing when and how troops were withdrawn and overseeing the perimeter defense of the airport is silly.
I haven’t heard a single individual defend the withdrawal of all U S combat air power before evacuation of ground forces and diplomats. Trump gave much more deference to the military than Obama did and Obama people are running this. The DoD is not in charge. Rice and Blinken are. No way this chaos would have happened under Trump.
And that's the best you've got . . . attempts at inaccurate insults.
Well, I've deleted the insult back to you . . . even though it was accurate as hell.
Have a fine evening.
If after 20 years of training the “Afghan Army” folded, what difference does it make if we stayed 3, 5, or 10 years longer. It’s not worth our soldiers or our taxpayers money.
I think it’s an awful ending, but no way it would have played out differently, no matter who was President.
By the way, almost 70% of Americans want us out. It’s over…and that’s a good thing.
I knew if anyone could find a way to blame Obama, it would be you.
Hey Bulk! Studies show stupid ha ha emojis are the fourth most often used avoidance mechanism of thinking and responding; right behind “moving the goal posts”.
Further to this, State today said that the Taliban have asked the Americans to keep a diplomatic mission in Kabul.
I suppose you think Biden us calling the shots. Susan Rice is all over the NSC.
I don't subscribe to this figurehead sock puppet conspiracy theory some of you like to bounce around, if that's what you mean.
This is truly unbelievable.
www.foxnews.com
Robert Kennedy's assassin Sirhan Sirhan granted parole by California board
Robert F. Kennedy's assassin, Sirhan Sirhan, was granted parole by a California board after spending more than 50 years in prison Friday after two of his sons said they support his release, a decision that still needs to be approved by the governor.
Oh my God! Too funny!
I'm sure, if Trump was President now, you'd be saying the same thing.
Or, let's say, Jan 6?
Well, it's California and the Kennedy family didn't object.This is truly unbelievable.
Robert Kennedy's assassin Sirhan Sirhan granted parole by California board
Robert F. Kennedy's assassin, Sirhan Sirhan, was granted parole by a California board after spending more than 50 years in prison Friday after two of his sons said they support his release, a decision that still needs to be approved by the governor.
Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6 Jan 6
You guys are too much.
Heh. The sock puppet theory is much less scary than Biden being in charge.
Y'all come down and visit us hillbillies. You might just like us.
We will re-educate you.
that's what i don't understand. why wouldnt he just come out and say i relied on my intelligence on the ground in my decision making. that intelligence turned out to be bad. as the commander in chief i accept full responsibility for this debacle and i apologize to all involved. we will take any and all measures required to remedy this tragic event as well as our intel going forward.
going backwards pointing at trump and all the bluster is infuriating. just own it and move on. don't try to obfuscate w/ a history lesson. the only thing anyone is up and arms about is the evacuation. a finite period of time.
The devil is in the details and we won't know the full story for years, if ever. In hindsight Biden should have just eaten the shit that he was served instead of trying to explain how things had not transpired as expected.
