Truly unbelievable
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How is this worse? The Afghan Army surrendered en masse, of course the victors got all their weapons, supplies, money, everything. How is this news to you? Were we supposed to ask Afghanistan for all their weapons back before we left the country?
I had some finance friends that did visits to Bagram AFB (and Baghdad too, for that matter).... that we attempting to setup modern payment systems (EFT). But it was a bit of a lost cause as most local contractors still required payment in hard cash for whatever random project. So they would be flying pallets of cash like this on cargo planes into these countries all the damn time. Was a real problem for a long time, as we had our soldiers traveling around with bags full of thousands in cash constantly.
And we know up and down the line Afghan officials skimmed cash off the top. Might explain why they required hard cash. And why cash would be easily found by the Taliban.
The fact that Biden and his people thought the Afghan Army would stand and fight tells me how out of touch they are. If they knew the Afghan Army would run for the hills, surely they wouldn't have left billions of dollars of cash and military equipment behind??
Piss poor Intel is what Joe was operating on; he should be impeached!
Yup and Trump had said he was going to do the same thing so this was going to happen regardless of who was president...
but keep on keepin on. You're on a roll.
If we had pulled out all the weapons and money, you would be here demanding Biden be impeached for leaving the Afghans unable to defend themselves.
That's amazing twenty. We run a factory in Pakistan. The country doesn't have paypal. 5th most populated country in the world
Seeing pics of a C130 filled with endless pallets of Franklins is quite something.
Haven't seen it. But I imagine there could be endless stories told. Hell, something like $9B in hard cash basically disappeared in Iraq.
This is from the Financial Times Oct 14, 2020, about a month BEFORE the US election...
" Afghanistan’s top peace negotiator says Washington has given the Taliban the upper hand in talks after Donald Trump pledged to withdraw all US troops by Christmas. Abdullah Abdullah, who is leading the Afghan government’s peace negotiations with the militants, told the Financial Times in an interview that there was still uncertainty over the drawdown of troops.
He blamed the confusion on the looming US presidential election. “Nobody has given any clarity,” said Mr Abdullah, referring to the US withdrawal. The Taliban who thought “that if the US withdraws then they can come back by force . . . they might see it in their advantage”.
Now here is the KEY part...
The Taliban welcomed Mr Trump's tweet announcing the decision last week. The group’s senior leadership told CBS News that they hoped the president won re-election and would “wind up US military presence in Afghanistan”.
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So who was operating on piss poor intel?
On March 8, less than 1 1/2 mos into Biden's Presidency, NPR filed this report...
The article centered around the Biden Administration's threat to the Afghani's that unless stalled peace talks between the Taliban and the Afghan Govt showed some progress the US might decide to FOLLOW THE TRUMP ADMIN POLICY of withdrawing all US troops by Trump's May 1 deadline...
"U.S.-sponsored talks between Afghanistan's government and the Taliban have foundered over the past year as fighting between the two groups has continued to escalate and divisions within the Kabul government have prevented a coherent policy toward the Taliban."
U.S. Warns Kabul It May Withdraw All Forces By May 1 If Peace Talks Do Not Progress
In a letter reportedly sent to Afghan President Ashraf Ghani, Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the U.S. "has not ruled out any option" and asked him to "understand the urgency of my tone."
www.npr.org
Now notice how on March 8 2021, the NPR article does not say the stalks stalled over the past month? Rather they say the talks have stalled over the past YEAR. And who was POTUS for the past year?
This is why it's instructive to destroy an uninformed post like yours with actual links, including what the Afghani Govt was saying about Trump's DEAL, while Trump was still President. So are you going to respond with FACTS, or stick to your pathetically ill-advised attempt to portray Trump as the "hero" here?
You are out of your mind if you think Donald Trump would've stood for what has transpired in Afghanistan. Quit trying to lay blame on a man who isn't even in office; Biden occupies the White House thanks to people like you!!This is from the Financial Times Oct 14, 2020, about a month BEFORE the US election...
" Afghanistan’s top peace negotiator says Washington has given the Taliban the upper hand in talks after Donald Trump pledged to withdraw all US troops by Christmas. Abdullah Abdullah, who is leading the Afghan government’s peace negotiations with the militants, told the Financial Times in an interview that there was still uncertainty over the drawdown of troops.
He blamed the confusion on the looming US presidential election. “Nobody has given any clarity,” said Mr Abdullah, referring to the US withdrawal. The Taliban who thought “that if the US withdraws then they can come back by force . . . they might see it in their advantage”.
Now here is the KEY part...
The Taliban welcomed Mr Trump's tweet announcing the decision last week. The group’s senior leadership told CBS News that they hoped the president won re-election and would “wind up US military presence in Afghanistan”.
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News, analysis and comment from the Financial Times, the worldʼs leading global business publicationwww.ft.com
So who was operating on piss poor intel?
On March 8, less than 1 1/2 mos into Biden's Presidency, NPR filed this report...
The article centered around the Biden Administration's threat to the Afghani's that unless stalled peace talks between the Taliban and the Afghan Govt showed some progress the US might decide to FOLLOW THE TRUMP ADMIN POLICY of withdrawing all US troops by Trump's May 1 deadline...
"U.S.-sponsored talks between Afghanistan's government and the Taliban have foundered over the past year as fighting between the two groups has continued to escalate and divisions within the Kabul government have prevented a coherent policy toward the Taliban."
U.S. Warns Kabul It May Withdraw All Forces By May 1 If Peace Talks Do Not Progress
In a letter reportedly sent to Afghan President Ashraf Ghani, Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the U.S. "has not ruled out any option" and asked him to "understand the urgency of my tone."
Now notice how on March 8 2021, the NPR article does not say the stalks stalled over the past month? Rather they say the talks have stalled over the past YEAR. And who was POTUS for the past year?
This is why it's instructive to destroy an uninformed post like yours with actual links, including what the Afghani Govt was saying about Trump's DEAL, while Trump was still President. So are you going to respond with FACTS, or stick to your pathetically ill-advised attempt to portray Trump as the "hero" here?
Biden is the president, the ole buck stops with Joe. The spin doctors/AKA Joe voters, are doing their best to justify a cruddy vote on their part.
Joe could shit his pants & Cosmic would find a twatter link or quote to blame it on the Donald…
Donald Trump said he was going to pull out of Afghanistan this year if he was re-elected. It's not like people are making that up.
I would still vote for Biden over Trump. I would vote for pretty much anyone over Trump and be able to live with it just fine.
Then American blood is on your hands!
He's got a year or so before he resigns in disgrace to change your mind.
Sort of shooting someone in times square, there nothing biden can do to be worse than Trump. Trump made the vote very easy. You must have hit your head if you think Biden will resign. That's about like assuming Trump will treat women with respect.
nothing wrong with a good yabutt to point out partisan hypocrisy
Says mr anti vaxxer anti masker.
You got more american blood on your hands than me but I'm sure you don't care. Keep on being a dumbass. you're good at it.
President Biden stated that an attack on the withdrawal would trigger a devastating response.
4 marines dead. One would assume that's a triggering event
“It wasn’t the Taliban” will be the party line. We will slink back behind the gates, wrap up evacuations for those onsite already and leave many behind.
Nah, I think the line will be close to "the Taliban cannot control the extremist elements in Afghanistan so we are forced to take action to prevent further attacks on Americans".
How long we stay this time, who knows.....
So many people have been screaming about this debacle for weeks and the administration has simply and callously dismissed it as just a PR problem. Real people are dying. The original incompetence and errors were indefensible, but the response has been unforgivable.
If the Democrats could fight wars like they cheat in elections, We would win in one day!
Jimmy Carter is felling pretty damn good about his presidency right now....
