Democrats=Nativism under your definition. You don’t have a point.
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You got any links to say the Haitians were "dumped" in Springfield? It was an economically distressed area that suffered a huge loss in population along with the loss of jobs... Consequently they went from a population of nearly 80,000 to 55 or 60,000.
When manufacturing and other jobs were created by various bi-partisan acts passed during the Biden Admin, lots of new industries and manufacturing jobs sprung up. And for various reasons including opioid issues as well as an aversion to work among some, the local population was unable to provide the necessary workforce to adequately fill those jobs...
Some Haitians already living in the area were hired and business leaders in the city saw it as a way to get the workers needed for their industries. Based on what my research has shown I'd say that the majority of the Haitians that came to Springfield were Haitians living in other parts of the US who saw moving to Springfield as an oppty.
They weren't looking for a town to take over, they just wanted to take advantage of the job growth and financial opportunities that Springfield offered. Haitians have been coming to the US since 2010 and before. Including thousands who came during the Trump years...
DeSantis has more Haitians living in FL than any other state but NY. When was the last time FL had a Dem Governor?
Did a government program send them there for resettlement?
No. Immigrants have chosen to live in Springfield due to its low cost of living and available work, according to a city website, which notes that “no government entity is responsible for the influx of Haitians into Clark County.”“Any system is going to struggle with the rapid population growth we have seen,” Clark County Health Commissioner Chris Cook told the Springfield City Council in July as he stressed the importance of getting more resources and funding to help.
“This is not part of a federal resettlement program. … It’s not someplace it was planned, and it’s not someplace those resources initially go by policy,” he said.
Well one point is that Van is a low info voter (I assume he'll vote) who in his very post repeated lies from the Trump campaign...
Mitch Daniels would make an excellent president, sadly he will never run.
The Pharisees were also men of the cloth who knew how to twist the interpretation of Mosaic law to fit their purpose
We saw the Harris and CBS collusion! We know what party is against voter ID. The Harris campaign is the lairs! But you don’t care. As long as the means justify the end.
I don’t gather he’s stupid. I do gather that he has asshole tendencies
Ask the people of Springfield. I was in Springfield the day before Trump repeated Vance’s lie about Haitians eating pets. I didn’t hear a complaint about Haitians, cats or dogs disappearing, or any particular problems at all. It’s almost like it’s all bullshit - which of course, it is.
You’re a pastor. Go with some of your congregation to Springfield and offer to help with whatever their problems are. Do a little outreach. Show them some Christian love and generosity.
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The Pharisees and Saducees weren’t necessarily concerned with helping the less fortunate
You won't get one. The race card is all libbys have to make their stupidity feel justified. It's funny also how these dumbasses are all for letting people into the country illegally,but none of them want those people in their neighborhoods(i.e. Martha's vineyard). Just another dumbass talking point based on emotion rather than logic. The election is slipping away from them...expect even more rhetoric in the coming weeks,as they are now in panic mode.
They’re welcome to my neighborhood. Would rather have a voodoo dog eating Haitian than a redneck KKK member any day of the week
Van’s posts often strike me as intentionally stupid. I think we’re dealing with a troll.
It was the locals who drove this though:
Residents of Springfield, Ohio attend city council meeting to share frustration about migrant crisis hitting their community | Fox News Video
A town meeting in Springfield, Ohio, erupted into chaos after massive influx of migrant takes over small town.
Saying the locals weren't taking issue with this is wrong. There were people upset enough about it to go to their City officials and petition them about it. Now when this story first broke, I did see one prominent guy who they interviewed who loved the Haitians and it was a factory owner.
Trump is not the best mouthpiece for his positions, but what Vance discusses in the video below is where the majority of Americans are at.
You guys can racism, racism all you want but there are economic and cultural impacts felt when you take in this many unskilled people who come from areas that aren't on the same page as where they are going at one time.
I will stand in defense of nativism to a degree. Sometimes the nativist argument is valid because adding people who are not in alignment with your cultural norms is bad for your native population, case in point:
And I don't want to hear the whole, "Well not all migrants...." Yeah, obviously. However, don't you think the vetting process should be pretty darn thorough before you allow a person to touch ground here? I do.
Shocking data shows 15K illegal immigrants in US accused of murder — as Kamala Harris visits border
Federal authorities are aware of but not currently detaining 13,099 illegal immigrants living in the US who have been convicted of homicide and 1,845 who are accused of it, according to Immigration…
nypost.com
We have the right and the duty to control who enters this country.
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You should move to Haiti. I heard the weather is great all year around.
Oh...the KKK...glad you brought it up. Another organization founded by democrats.
When you starts listening to both sides,you can form an opinion that isn't biased,and stupid. You have been fed state media every day on Trump for almost 10 years now. Why not go listen to a conservative talk show for 10 days? That's all it would take for anyone with the ability to be logical,to see what exactly is going on. But it won't happen because dems are all about emotion,rather than logic.
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I realize you're trolling. But this seems like you completely missed the mark...
Van starts with the supposition that Haitians in Springfield were dropped off suddenlyas some sort of "Fedreal resettlement program." Since this is a demonstrably false claim he (apparently) picked up from the campaign that claimed those same Haitians were eating pets he starts off dealing with an alternative reality. Since his basic premise is so flat out wrong. it's hard to give any credence to anything else he claimed in his post.
They're about a thousand years removed, so I'd say they aren't very true to those roots.
You should go watch some of the resident testimonials about the pets and animals being eaten
Trump is a perfect mouthpiece for his positions. He says exactly what he means and I don't believe for a moment that he means to say the things that Vance is saying and is just incapable.It was the locals who drove this though:
Residents of Springfield, Ohio attend city council meeting to share frustration about migrant crisis hitting their community | Fox News Video
A town meeting in Springfield, Ohio, erupted into chaos after massive influx of migrant takes over small town.www.foxnews.com
Saying the locals weren't taking issue with this is wrong. There were people upset enough about it to go to their City officials and petition them about it. Now when this story first broke, I did see one prominent guy who they interviewed who loved the Haitians and it was a factory owner.
Trump is not the best mouthpiece for his positions, but what Vance discusses in the video below is where the majority of Americans are at.
You guys can racism, racism all you want but there are economic and cultural impacts felt when you take in this many unskilled people who come from areas that aren't on the same page as where they are going at one time.
I will stand in defense of nativism to a degree. Sometimes the nativist argument is valid because adding people who are not in alignment with your cultural norms is bad for your native population, case in point:
And I don't want to hear the whole, "Well not all migrants...." Yeah, obviously. However, don't you think the vetting process should be pretty darn thorough before you allow a person to touch ground here? I do.
Shocking data shows 15K illegal immigrants in US accused of murder — as Kamala Harris visits border
Federal authorities are aware of but not currently detaining 13,099 illegal immigrants living in the US who have been convicted of homicide and 1,845 who are accused of it, according to Immigration…
We have the right and the duty to control who enters this country.
And, when you pull the "you guys" B.S., at least try to respond to a post that is actually saying what you're accusing me of saying.
So one whacked out pastor represents a set of views, let alone this board?
Libs say whatever fits their narrative or agenda,regardless of truth. It's has worked for the people they support so long that regular people think it's ok for them too.
Litmus test for your truthfulness. Who won the 2020 election? If you say Biden, then why is the person you support telling the biggest lie in political history?
Who are you talking about????! I know it’s not the spiritual leader of the dream team
This shitlib believes transgenderism is a disease and that every voter needs a valid ID. Sorry I don’t fit in your box
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The MSM and democrats would make him out to be a racist and all the phobes.
Every voter should have an ID. Only U.S. citizens are allowed to vote. If you have to show ID to buy a pack of cigarettes,you can show ID to vote. There is nothing illogical about that. Not requiring ID to vote,when only U.S. citizens are allowed to vote, is illogical.
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