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This is all that really needs to be said about anti-vaxxers....

Did you even read the article? This wasn't some isolated Texas hospital with no other hospitals less than hours away. This was in Houston which according to the Houston medical website has 85 hospitals in the metro area. Yet this girl had to be transported to a hospital 150 miles away.

Now even if the one hospital that you pointed out as having no inpatient pediatric care is eliminated from a "full bed" discussion, there are still 84 more hospitals in metro Houston.

The fact that none of those had a bed for the young girl with covid means that this is definitely a case of beds being full. Unless you want to argue that none of those other 84 hospitals provide inpatient pediatric care. Which would be pretty stupid to argue...

"Although children who come there needing hospitalization are typically transferred, Callaway said none of Houston’s major pediatric facilities had any beds, forcing the infant’s transfer to a Temple hospital, KPRC-TV reported."

In other words, ALL of the pediatric care beds in Houston were full, and the baby had to be transferred to Temple TX, which is NOT Houston...See what happens when you do NOT read the article?
The gist of the article, as you've noted, is that the baby had to be airlifted to a facility 150 miles away because there was a pediatrics bed shortage in Houston. The person you're responding to apparently read only the first two sentences of the article.

It's just another example of why engaging with him is a colossal waste of time. He's the king of fallacies and plain old bullshit. If ignorance is bliss, he must the happiest person on the planet.
 
I'm starting to think herd immunity is a myth. Vaccines are the only way to slow the virus and its variants down, but it's not going away.
Links to science? Or, like McMoron, you go with your gut on everything?
 
I believe it's bullshit. I believe if the woman needed treatment, they would have found a place for her to get it.

You believe anything you see on the internet because it supports your narrative. You have no idea whether it's true or not, but you believe it because..... he swears?
Your "beliefs" are the laughing stock of this board. They should be for the entire population of "murika", but unfortunately, as usual, about 30% of the US is as moronic and misinformed as you are.

I pity America.
 
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Links to science? Or, like McMoron, you go with your gut on everything?
How can you have links to support conjecture? And whether it’s from scientists or knuckleheads like you & your dancing partner here, any info at this time truly is conjecture…
 
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Yes, I read the article. Obviously you didn't.

The hospital they took the infant to didn't have a pediatric facility, so they flew the child to one that did. It's in the article, and if you can't understand English, I can't help you.

Nothing but hysteria from you who love to spread fear.
Houston Methodist Hospital closed beds and units . HMH just terminated over 150 RN, NP, and specialists, who refused to submit to being lab experiments.

Haven't heard how many other hospitals have the same policy in the Houston area.

Wouldn't take too many to put a couple thousand trained medical personnel on the sidelines...

Some 'Pandemic'
 
Yes, I read the article. Obviously you didn't.

The hospital they took the infant to didn't have a pediatric facility, so they flew the child to one that did. It's in the article, and if you can't understand English, I can't help you.

Nothing but hysteria from you who love to spread fear.
There are EIGHTY-FIVE Hospitals in Houston. Yes,it's true that one didn't offer pediatric care, but at least some of the remaining 84 hospitals in Houston DO. But they couldn't transfer the baby to ANY OF THE OTHER 84 Hospitals in Houston because NONE of them had available beds...Again the news report on the situation from KPRC-TV...

"none of Houston’s major pediatric facilities had any beds, forcing the infant’s transfer to a Temple hospital, KPRC-TV reported."

Again, Temple Texas is 150 miles from Houston, so they had to air transport. Had one of the numerous Hospitals IN HOUSTON that do offer pediatric care had an available bed, they likely could have driven the baby there.
 
DANC can always remove a tin foil hat.

Can you remove your spike proteins?
I don't have to remove spike protein. It is removed, naturally, extremely efficiently.

Spike protein produced post vaccination has a circulating half-life of 19 hours, as measured in the lab, so 1 month after vaccination, guess how much spike protein is there?

0.000000000036% of the maximum level produced.

An analogy: say you have a 55 gallon drum full of water and it has that same half life. After one month, you would have 0.00076 MICROLITERS of water left over. This would be about one-one millionth of one drop.
 
I don't have to remove spike protein. It is removed, naturally, extremely efficiently.

Spike protein produced post vaccination has a circulating half-life of 19 hours, as measured in the lab, so 1 month after vaccination, guess how much spike protein is there?

0.000000000036% of the maximum level produced.

An analogy: say you have a 55 gallon drum full of water and it has that same half life. After one month, you would have 0.00076 MICROLITERS of water left over. This would be about one-one millionth of one drop.

So it has the same half life as mas's brain cells?
 
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My guess is that this guy is doing a pretty good impression of them.
So it's selfish....?

To not trust your own body , but to blindly submit to a 'vaccine ', created by a company which profits from perpetual disease, has repeatedly lie, falsified data,
bribed doctors, knowingly caused harm, and is shielded from any liabilities for death or injuries caused by use of its product?
 
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There are EIGHTY-FIVE Hospitals in Houston. Yes,it's true that one didn't offer pediatric care, but at least some of the remaining 84 hospitals in Houston DO. But they couldn't transfer the baby to ANY OF THE OTHER 84 Hospitals in Houston because NONE of them had available beds...Again the news report on the situation from KPRC-TV...

"none of Houston’s major pediatric facilities had any beds, forcing the infant’s transfer to a Temple hospital, KPRC-TV reported."

Again, Temple Texas is 150 miles from Houston, so they had to air transport. Had one of the numerous Hospitals IN HOUSTON that do offer pediatric care had an available bed, they likely could have driven the baby there.
What's your point? That they had to go 150 miles - via helicopter - instead of 20 miles?

Woop-de-freaking-do. Patients are transferred to other, specialized hospitals all the time and you choose to focus on ONE incident?

You and Bowlmanie need to get together - you're both major drama queens.
 
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Your "beliefs" are the laughing stock of this board. They should be for the entire population of "murika", but unfortunately, as usual, about 30% of the US is as moronic and misinformed as you are.

I pity America.
Only you morons here believe some internet rant by an unknown person without some verification.

Remember Russia Russia Russia?

No wonder you leftists are so easily duped.
 
So it's selfish....?

To not trust your own body , but to blindly submit to a 'vaccine ', created by a company which profits from perpetual disease, has repeatedly lie, falsified data,
bribed doctors, knowingly caused harm, and is shielded from any liabilities for death or injuries caused by use of its product?
wahhhh!

Seriously though. There is no sense of civic responsibility among a certain crowd anymore.

Instead of health organizations promoting vaccination with the sentiment of us all being in it together, they probably should have used a slogan a lot of people are already conditioned to like, 'get your vaccine while supplies last'.
 
wahhhh!

Seriously though. There is no sense of civic responsibility among a certain crowd anymore.

Instead of health organizations promoting vaccination with the sentiment of us all being in it together, they probably should have used a slogan a lot of people are already conditioned to like, 'get your vaccine while supplies last'.
Getting back to the thread's title, maybe THIS is all that needs to be said about anti-vaxxers... Apparently, the anti-vax scene is hugely popular among the Incel community.

And I guess it was inevitable that the ultimate conspiracy theory would emerge. After all, these folks do not believe in science, but the crypto imagery is a bit telling...

 
Many, if not most, of Covid hospitalizations are obese people. Diabetics are a close second if not first. Both are life-style conditions.
There are people who are type 1 and 2 diabetic who are not obese and look completely healthy. Your viewpoint is completely shortsighted. Being diabetic is not just a “life-style” condition. Sure, life style choices can play a part in it, but it’s not the definitive factor.
 
Did you read my post at all? I said a worse plague in 10 years. Not this one. We flat out will not respond to the next plague, whenever it is
I'm not sure I'd make this the sole determinant, but I agree it needs to bear some consideration.

"A North Texas doctors group released an email to members this week, telling them that vaccination status could be taken into account when determining which COVID-19 patients get beds in intensive care units if the region experiences another crisis.

The memo by the North Texas Mass Critical Guidelines Task Force was leaked to The Dallas Morning News, which published details of the memo on Thursday.

The memo boiled down to this: Since vaccination vastly improves the chances of survival from COVID-19, a patient's vaccination status could count as a plus or a strike when determining which patients get ICU beds. It could not be the sole determining factor, however.

The guidelines were designed for if the region goes into a Level 3 crisis stage, which Dr. Robert Fine, co-chair of the task force, told The Dallas Morning News could happen in two weeks. The guidelines themselves are not enforceable, but are generally followed, The Dallas Morning News noted."


AL is a state which currently has no ICU beds available, and I saw where a hospital in Baton Rouge has had to convert their burn unit to a covid ward. There is a certain level of irresponsibleness about refusing the vaccine that may need to be weighed if patients in a hospital setting have to be prioritized...

To me, hardcore vax skeptics are a huge issue, esp if they take another patient's spot. Recently we've seen several examples of vax skeptics not only being hospitalized and placed in an ICU but also continuing to promote their skepticism while undergoing the process (and possibly taking another patient's spot).

Often these particular people have some degree of influence/power, like the case of SC GOP leader Pressley Stutts. In that case, it becomes a difficult moral/ethical issue to confront, as not only is he taking a potential ICU space from someone else, but his continued push of anti-vax conspiracy theories may contribute to the death of others...

It certainly contributed to his own death, at the hands of the delta variant he minimized...


"Stutts also praised a state effort to strip funding from schools that imposed mask mandates or testing requirements, and was angry about $10 gift card incentives for vaccination, writing to his 5,000 followers: “Do not sell your body nor your soul no matter the asking price.”

So he disagreed with the vaccine, mask mandates AND testing requirements. How did he expect us to fight this plague, by lying near death in an ICU and telling doctors during cognitive tests that Trump was still POTUS?

 
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I'm not sure I'd make this the sole determinant, but I agree it needs to bear some consideration.

"A North Texas doctors group released an email to members this week, telling them that vaccination status could be taken into account when determining which COVID-19 patients get beds in intensive care units if the region experiences another crisis.

The memo by the North Texas Mass Critical Guidelines Task Force was leaked to The Dallas Morning News, which published details of the memo on Thursday.

The memo boiled down to this: Since vaccination vastly improves the chances of survival from COVID-19, a patient's vaccination status could count as a plus or a strike when determining which patients get ICU beds. It could not be the sole determining factor, however.

The guidelines were designed for if the region goes into a Level 3 crisis stage, which Dr. Robert Fine, co-chair of the task force, told The Dallas Morning News could happen in two weeks. The guidelines themselves are not enforceable, but are generally followed, The Dallas Morning News noted."


AL is a state which currently has no ICU beds available, and I saw where a hospital in Baton Rouge has had to convert their burn unit to a covid ward. There is a certain level of irresponsibleness about refusing the vaccine that may need to be weighed if patients in a hospital setting have to be prioritized...

To me, hardcore vax skeptics are a huge issue, esp if they take another patient's spot. Recently we've seen several examples of vax skeptics not only being hospitalized and placed in an ICU but also continuing to promote their skepticism while undergoing the process (and possibly taking another patient's spot).

Often these particular people have some degree of influence/power, like the case of SC GOP leader Pressley Stutts. In that case, it becomes a difficult moral/ethical issue to confront, as not only is he taking a potential ICU space from someone else, but his continued push of anti-vax conspiracy theories may contribute to the death of others...

It certainly contributed to his own death, at the hands of the delta variant he minimized...


"Stutts also praised a state effort to strip funding from schools that imposed mask mandates or testing requirements, and was angry about $10 gift card incentives for vaccination, writing to his 5,000 followers: “Do not sell your body nor your soul no matter the asking price.”

So he disagreed with the vaccine, mask mandates AND testing requirements. How did he expect us to fight this plague, by lying near death in an ICU and telling doctors during cognitive tests that Trump was still POTUS?

That'll excite physicians insurance companies. Raise some rates
 
I'm not sure I'd make this the sole determinant, but I agree it needs to bear some consideration.

"A North Texas doctors group released an email to members this week, telling them that vaccination status could be taken into account when determining which COVID-19 patients get beds in intensive care units if the region experiences another crisis.

The memo by the North Texas Mass Critical Guidelines Task Force was leaked to The Dallas Morning News, which published details of the memo on Thursday.

The memo boiled down to this: Since vaccination vastly improves the chances of survival from COVID-19, a patient's vaccination status could count as a plus or a strike when determining which patients get ICU beds. It could not be the sole determining factor, however.

The guidelines were designed for if the region goes into a Level 3 crisis stage, which Dr. Robert Fine, co-chair of the task force, told The Dallas Morning News could happen in two weeks. The guidelines themselves are not enforceable, but are generally followed, The Dallas Morning News noted."


AL is a state which currently has no ICU beds available, and I saw where a hospital in Baton Rouge has had to convert their burn unit to a covid ward. There is a certain level of irresponsibleness about refusing the vaccine that may need to be weighed if patients in a hospital setting have to be prioritized...

To me, hardcore vax skeptics are a huge issue, esp if they take another patient's spot. Recently we've seen several examples of vax skeptics not only being hospitalized and placed in an ICU but also continuing to promote their skepticism while undergoing the process (and possibly taking another patient's spot).

Often these particular people have some degree of influence/power, like the case of SC GOP leader Pressley Stutts. In that case, it becomes a difficult moral/ethical issue to confront, as not only is he taking a potential ICU space from someone else, but his continued push of anti-vax conspiracy theories may contribute to the death of others...

It certainly contributed to his own death, at the hands of the delta variant he minimized...


"Stutts also praised a state effort to strip funding from schools that imposed mask mandates or testing requirements, and was angry about $10 gift card incentives for vaccination, writing to his 5,000 followers: “Do not sell your body nor your soul no matter the asking price.”

So he disagreed with the vaccine, mask mandates AND testing requirements. How did he expect us to fight this plague, by lying near death in an ICU and telling doctors during cognitive tests that Trump was still POTUS?

Stupid prize.
 
Mentioned before but my FIL reads COVID scans in central IN. This week he said there’s a big spike in cases and that takes up most of his day, again.

He also mentioned how many of these people have pneumonia and COVID. One common factor in the COVID cases is that the patients are obese.
 
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wahhhh!

Seriously though. There is no sense of civic responsibility among a certain crowd anymore.

Instead of health organizations promoting vaccination with the sentiment of us all being in it together, they probably should have used a slogan a lot of people are already conditioned to like, 'get your vaccine while supplies last'.
Define 'civic responsibility '.
 
Seriously though. There is no sense of civic responsibility among a certain crowd anymore.

Instead of health organizations promoting vaccination with the sentiment of us all being in it together, they probably should have used a slogan a lot of people are already conditioned to like, 'get your vaccine while supplies last'.
Here's my own interpretive guide to today's political lexicon.

civic responsibility = communism
freedom = entitlement
patriot = white nationalist
 
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Antivaccine guy: You know, I think the moon is made of cheese.

Me: We've been there. You can't eat moon rocks. Further, even if we hadn't gone there, we can analyze the moon's crust by spectroscopy. It shows remarkable similarities to the Earth's crust, with a composition that precisely correlates with its orbit and with everything that we know about physics.

Antivaccine guy: I'm still thinking it's cheese. Ban anti-cheese theory!
 
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Stupid prize.

I'm not sure I'd make this the sole determinant, but I agree it needs to bear some consideration.

"A North Texas doctors group released an email to members this week, telling them that vaccination status could be taken into account when determining which COVID-19 patients get beds in intensive care units if the region experiences another crisis.

The memo by the North Texas Mass Critical Guidelines Task Force was leaked to The Dallas Morning News, which published details of the memo on Thursday.

The memo boiled down to this: Since vaccination vastly improves the chances of survival from COVID-19, a patient's vaccination status could count as a plus or a strike when determining which patients get ICU beds. It could not be the sole determining factor, however.

The guidelines were designed for if the region goes into a Level 3 crisis stage, which Dr. Robert Fine, co-chair of the task force, told The Dallas Morning News could happen in two weeks. The guidelines themselves are not enforceable, but are generally followed, The Dallas Morning News noted."


AL is a state which currently has no ICU beds available, and I saw where a hospital in Baton Rouge has had to convert their burn unit to a covid ward. There is a certain level of irresponsibleness about refusing the vaccine that may need to be weighed if patients in a hospital setting have to be prioritized...

To me, hardcore vax skeptics are a huge issue, esp if they take another patient's spot. Recently we've seen several examples of vax skeptics not only being hospitalized and placed in an ICU but also continuing to promote their skepticism while undergoing the process (and possibly taking another patient's spot).

Often these particular people have some degree of influence/power, like the case of SC GOP leader Pressley Stutts. In that case, it becomes a difficult moral/ethical issue to confront, as not only is he taking a potential ICU space from someone else, but his continued push of anti-vax conspiracy theories may contribute to the death of others...

It certainly contributed to his own death, at the hands of the delta variant he minimized...


"Stutts also praised a state effort to strip funding from schools that imposed mask mandates or testing requirements, and was angry about $10 gift card incentives for vaccination, writing to his 5,000 followers: “Do not sell your body nor your soul no matter the asking price.”

So he disagreed with the vaccine, mask mandates AND testing requirements. How did he expect us to fight this plague, by lying near death in an ICU and telling doctors during cognitive tests that Trump was still POTUS?

The public comments about triage qualifications determining patient care have been walked back.

There's no plan to do so.

The propaganda swamp is deep and foul.
 
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I'm not sure I'd make this the sole determinant, but I agree it needs to bear some consideration.

"A North Texas doctors group released an email to members this week, telling them that vaccination status could be taken into account when determining which COVID-19 patients get beds in intensive care units if the region experiences another crisis.

The memo by the North Texas Mass Critical Guidelines Task Force was leaked to The Dallas Morning News, which published details of the memo on Thursday.

The memo boiled down to this: Since vaccination vastly improves the chances of survival from COVID-19, a patient's vaccination status could count as a plus or a strike when determining which patients get ICU beds. It could not be the sole determining factor, however.

The guidelines were designed for if the region goes into a Level 3 crisis stage, which Dr. Robert Fine, co-chair of the task force, told The Dallas Morning News could happen in two weeks. The guidelines themselves are not enforceable, but are generally followed, The Dallas Morning News noted."


AL is a state which currently has no ICU beds available, and I saw where a hospital in Baton Rouge has had to convert their burn unit to a covid ward. There is a certain level of irresponsibleness about refusing the vaccine that may need to be weighed if patients in a hospital setting have to be prioritized...

To me, hardcore vax skeptics are a huge issue, esp if they take another patient's spot. Recently we've seen several examples of vax skeptics not only being hospitalized and placed in an ICU but also continuing to promote their skepticism while undergoing the process (and possibly taking another patient's spot).

Often these particular people have some degree of influence/power, like the case of SC GOP leader Pressley Stutts. In that case, it becomes a difficult moral/ethical issue to confront, as not only is he taking a potential ICU space from someone else, but his continued push of anti-vax conspiracy theories may contribute to the death of others...

It certainly contributed to his own death, at the hands of the delta variant he minimized...


"Stutts also praised a state effort to strip funding from schools that imposed mask mandates or testing requirements, and was angry about $10 gift card incentives for vaccination, writing to his 5,000 followers: “Do not sell your body nor your soul no matter the asking price.”

So he disagreed with the vaccine, mask mandates AND testing requirements. How did he expect us to fight this plague, by lying near death in an ICU and telling doctors during cognitive tests that Trump was still POTUS?



Darwin reigns.
 
Your "beliefs" are the laughing stock of this board. They should be for the entire population of "murika", but unfortunately, as usual, about 30% of the US is as moronic and misinformed as you are.

I pity America.
How excited are you for the return of the mask mandate?
 
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