You do realize that what you are quoting is nothing at all remotely similar to what you claim you are quoting, right? I mean, learn the English language before you start posting, please.
This is all that really needs to be said about anti-vaxxers....
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I quoted what you wrote.
Look, you're drinking or probably drunk. I don't argue with drunks.
Not to those being coerced, threatened, propagandized and lied to.
Fine. Line up those infected and let them cough, sneeze and spit in your general direction.
Would you be willing to do the same if they have a mask on?
I wouldnt let anyone do that even if they weren't infected.
But nice attempt at a strawman.
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Widespread use of coronavirus face masks can help control virus transmission: study
In the ongoing debate about coronavirus face mask effectiveness, a new study published this week suggests that widespread use of face masks can help to prevent large outbreaks of COVID-19.
Surgical masks reduce COVID-19 spread: study
A new study that examined the effects of mask-wearing on the spread of COVID-19 found that even partial adoption helps to limit the spread.
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Now show us your links.
Outside Shitter disagrees with you because these are not controlled, double blind studies.Widespread use of coronavirus face masks can help control virus transmission: study
In the ongoing debate about coronavirus face mask effectiveness, a new study published this week suggests that widespread use of face masks can help to prevent large outbreaks of COVID-19.www.foxnews.com
Surgical masks reduce COVID-19 spread: study
A new study that examined the effects of mask-wearing on the spread of COVID-19 found that even partial adoption helps to limit the spread.
Masks and PPE: Prevent the Spread: COVID-19: Indiana University
Learn about mask guidance at IU.www.iu.edu
Surgical masks reduce COVID-19 spread, large-scale study shows
Researchers found that surgical masks impede the spread of COVID-19 and that just a few, low-cost interventions increase mask-wearing compliance.med.stanford.edu
COVID-19 and Your Health
Symptoms, testing, what to do if sick, daily activities, and more.
Masks save lives: Here’s what you need to know - Harvard Health
Evidence shows that mask-wearing can help reduce spread of COVID-19 infections, keep waves of serious illness from overburdening our hospitals, and save lives. Masks also help protect us aga...
Study Shows Masks Prevent Covid Spread
Our expert weighs in on the new data
Can face masks protect against COVID-19?
Face masks can help slow the spread of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). Learn about mask types, which masks to use and how to use them.
Largest study of masks yet details their importance in fighting Covid-19
Scientists conducted a randomized trial across 600 villages and more than 340,000 people in Bangladesh and found that even some adoption of surgical masks made a difference.
Now show us your links.
This doesn't speak very highly about the intelligence of those being "coerced".
Agree with what?
Masking was mandatory in public places for much of the virus in 2020.
Wasn't there a dramatic spike in infection and mortality during that time?
Masking is political bullshit. You can measure the data between counties with and without mandates.
People wear old ones, the wrong ones, ones that don't work, don't fit, they touch them blah blah blah.
But so what. It's a minor inconvenience and a showing of solidarity.
I said from the beginning, if the medical community and govenment believed masks were so effective, they would set standards for masks and manufacturers could make masks that meet those standards.
But to just say to wear a mask without any standards is just not a serious proposition.
I think it's a pretty major inconvenience when I have to wear a mask when working out in our gym.
Exactly. Hell the gov could distribute and replenish masks that meet vetted standards. Instead we have guys on construction crews wearing the same gator for two months straight.
Silliness
Tell me why it's relevant and tell me why I should believer your nonsense over the best hospitals in the world.
I actually feel sorry for you.
Your post. I don't see how you can't read what is coming from the most informed and expert opinions on planet Earth and then say, well, I think it could be something else.
Do you really want to live that way?
Where did I say it could be something else?
I just asked a question - if masks will help stop the virus, why did infection and mortality spike in 2020 when virtually every public building required a mask?
Simple question. I'm sure you have an answer. Or maybe ask some of the most informed and experts on planet earth.
What does your question have to do with masks? Masks are just another proven way of limiting infections. I think it's just respect for my fellow citizens.
The measures we took to mask-up, social distance, and generally be more careful made the flu an unprecedented low in 2020. Anecdotal, but it seems to have made a big impact.
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Precautions taken to fight the COVID-19 pandemic, including wearing masks and distancing, are likely the major reason for a steep decline of flu cases in the U.S., according to experts. The Centers…
"Stephen Kissler, a research fellow in the Department of Immunology and Infectious Diseases at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, said in a February 11, 2021 Vox article that while more people received a flu vaccine this year, the sharp drop in cases was probably largely driven by mask-wearing and distancing.”
Look, over there!!!What does your question have to do with masks? Masks are just another proven way of limiting infections. I think it's just respect for my fellow citizens.
The measures we took to mask-up, social distance, and generally be more careful made the flu an unprecedented low in 2020. Anecdotal, but it seems to have made a big impact.
A sharp drop in flu cases during COVID-19 pandemic
Precautions taken to fight the COVID-19 pandemic, including wearing masks and distancing, are likely the major reason for a steep decline of flu cases in the U.S., according to experts. The Centers…www.hsph.harvard.edu
"Stephen Kissler, a research fellow in the Department of Immunology and Infectious Diseases at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, said in a February 11, 2021 Vox article that while more people received a flu vaccine this year, the sharp drop in cases was probably largely driven by mask-wearing and distancing.”
Those gators have been overrated ever since Tebow graduated. (I think it's "gaiter").
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Masking is 95% theater and 5% legit. President Biden makes a big show out of taking off his mask when he reads from a podium. As he skedaddles without taking questions, he doesn’t take the time to put his mask back on.
Of course. As we smash 100,000 people into football stadiums to sing and scream at each other
What does my question have to do with masks? Are you drunk?What does your question have to do with masks? Masks are just another proven way of limiting infections. I think it's just respect for my fellow citizens.
The measures we took to mask-up, social distance, and generally be more careful made the flu an unprecedented low in 2020. Anecdotal, but it seems to have made a big impact.
A sharp drop in flu cases during COVID-19 pandemic
Precautions taken to fight the COVID-19 pandemic, including wearing masks and distancing, are likely the major reason for a steep decline of flu cases in the U.S., according to experts. The Centers…
"Stephen Kissler, a research fellow in the Department of Immunology and Infectious Diseases at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, said in a February 11, 2021 Vox article that while more people received a flu vaccine this year, the sharp drop in cases was probably largely driven by mask-wearing and distancing.”
I thought Wilford Brimley died a year ago. But maybe he's just been hiding out and raising scrappy mutts in Podunk Ozarkia for the past year or so...
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This is such a bizarre exchange it's driving me batty...
Do you really not understand that Goat is not discussing catching covid by "touch"?
I'm not even sure this qualifies as a "strawman" because you're not just answering a question he never posed, you're creating your own definition which has nothing to do with what he said. It's more like a snowman...
"Although I can't wear a mask when I'm driving, because I also wear glasses, this issue has been adequately addressed multiple times. The recommendation is to minimize the number of times you touch your mask and to wash your hands after removing it. This isn't feasible when you're running errands to multiple locations"
Goat is talking about minimizing the number of times you adjust your mask, which involves touching the outside of your mask. Since the mask is supposed to prevent particles from entering into your mouth, the outside of your mask is likely littered with germs/particles.
If you touch that outside with your fingers and then rub your mouth, eyes, nose, etc... you are essentially compromising the protection your mask provides. So he's saying a good way to minimize the number of times you touch your mask is to wear it from destination to destination while driving.
So on the subject of "incentives" I find this interesting...
"The Metropolitan Transportation Authority plans to extend a $500,000 death benefit to its employees who die of COVID-related causes through the end of 2021, a senior authority official said Monday. But the benefit will remain unavailable to those who decline to get vaccinated against the coronavirus."
MTA Will Withhold Death Benefits From Unvaccinated Workers
NEW YORK — The Metropolitan Transportation Authority plans to extend a $500,000 death benefit to its employees who die of COVID-related causes through the end of 2021, a senior authority official said Monday. But the benefit will remain unavailable to those who decline to get vaccinated against...
Are you insane?This is such a bizarre exchange it's driving me batty...
Do you really not understand that Goat is not discussing catching covid by "touch"?
I'm not even sure this qualifies as a "strawman" because you're not just answering a question he never posed, you're creating your own definition which has nothing to do with what he said. It's more like a snowman...
"Although I can't wear a mask when I'm driving, because I also wear glasses, this issue has been adequately addressed multiple times. The recommendation is to minimize the number of times you touch your mask and to wash your hands after removing it. This isn't feasible when you're running errands to multiple locations"
Goat is talking about minimizing the number of times you adjust your mask, which involves touching the outside of your mask. Since the mask is supposed to prevent particles from entering into your mouth, the outside of your mask is likely littered with germs/particles.
If you touch that outside with your fingers and then rub your mouth, eyes, nose, etc... you are essentially compromising the protection your mask provides. So he's saying a good way to minimize the number of times you touch your mask is to wear it from destination to destination while driving.
So on the subject of "incentives" I find this interesting...
"The Metropolitan Transportation Authority plans to extend a $500,000 death benefit to its employees who die of COVID-related causes through the end of 2021, a senior authority official said Monday. But the benefit will remain unavailable to those who decline to get vaccinated against the coronavirus."
MTA Will Withhold Death Benefits From Unvaccinated Workers
NEW YORK — The Metropolitan Transportation Authority plans to extend a $500,000 death benefit to its employees who die of COVID-related causes through the end of 2021, a senior authority official said Monday. But the benefit will remain unavailable to those who decline to get vaccinated against...www.yahoo.com
Goat said wearing a mask alone in a car was good because people touch their face and mask.
WTF do you think he meant? What is the danger in touching, if not to spread the virus?
You also notice he didn't respond because he knew he'd been busted. But you continue the idiocy.
Goat checked out because he lost patience with trying to explain common sense to an idiot. Me I'm a glutton for punishment, so I'll try one more time. Btw, not one of your anti-mask pals has even given any of your nonsense a "like". Even they have standards of what level of nonsense they want their name associated with...
"Goat said wearing a mask alone in a car was good because people touch their face and mask."
He clearly said while traveling from destination to destination. So if you enter store B and put your mask on, it's better to leave your mask on while driving to store C, because you minimize the amount of time you touch your mask and risk infecting YOURSELF. Then when you reach home and remove your mask, you can wash and sanitize your hands, like the CDC reccomends...
Does this qualify as "karma"? It seems like all you have to do is rail about the vax/masks or in the case of Laura Loomer just say you want to get covid so you can prove to your followers how "mild" it is, and voila you're infected...Maybe being a nasty person is part of the equation as well...
"Loomer, a far-right activist who was embraced by Trump, lost a U.S. House bid in Florida last year. She has been banned from most mainstream social networks—as well as Uber and Lyft—for blatant Islamophobia."
Careful what you wish for...
Last year, Loomer expressed a wish that she could catch COVID to show everyone that it was no big deal. She wrote on Parler in December 2020: “I hope I get COVID just so I can prove to people I’ve had bouts of food poisoning that are more serious and life threatening than a hyped up virus. Have you ever eaten bad fajitas? That will kill you faster than COVID.”
However, in follow-up messages on her Telegram channel late Thursday, she made it clear that she was suffering severe symptoms. “Just pray for me please,” she wrote. “Can’t even begin to explain how brutal the body aches and nausea that come with COVID are. I am in so much pain.”
She then posted more vaccine conspiracy theories, writing that the government “doesn’t want you to know what it really does,” despite the scientific fact that it would have offered her some protection."
www.yahoo.com
Then there's the case of 19 yr old Decatur City (AL) city council member Hunter Pepper.
He wasn't content to just be an isolated anti-vax, anti masker but felt the need to press for an end to mask mandates in a county with a 41% vax rate. Not sure he made "wise choices", but he was definitely determined to demonstrate his right to make his choices.
"Pepper, who is training to become an emergency medical technician, has routinely challenged pandemic-related restrictions as a city councilman, both slamming mask mandates and opting not to get vaccinated against the coronavirus, the outlet reported.
“I don’t believe you should be forced to do something like this, it’s wrong and it’s government overreach,” Pepper said in April as the city considered repealing a local mask mandate, according to WAFF.
“Me wearing a mask should be my choice,” Pepper said, days later, in an April 9 vote to end the city’s mask order, per WAAY."
www.yahoo.com
Not sure he feels that way now, esp since Wed when he told his Twitter posse "
"It feels terrible not to be able to breathe."
"Last month, Pepper, who became the youngest person elected to Decatur’s city council last year, vowed that he would “fight to the end” against another city mask mandate." (I'd characterize that particular statement as unintentional irony, esp the "end" part...)
Maybe if he recovers he'll learn a lesson. But being deadly sick with covid pneumonia in that part of AL would appear to be a pretty risky proposition...Even if you're just 19...
"Loomer, a far-right activist who was embraced by Trump, lost a U.S. House bid in Florida last year. She has been banned from most mainstream social networks—as well as Uber and Lyft—for blatant Islamophobia."
Careful what you wish for...
Last year, Loomer expressed a wish that she could catch COVID to show everyone that it was no big deal. She wrote on Parler in December 2020: “I hope I get COVID just so I can prove to people I’ve had bouts of food poisoning that are more serious and life threatening than a hyped up virus. Have you ever eaten bad fajitas? That will kill you faster than COVID.”
However, in follow-up messages on her Telegram channel late Thursday, she made it clear that she was suffering severe symptoms. “Just pray for me please,” she wrote. “Can’t even begin to explain how brutal the body aches and nausea that come with COVID are. I am in so much pain.”
She then posted more vaccine conspiracy theories, writing that the government “doesn’t want you to know what it really does,” despite the scientific fact that it would have offered her some protection."
Laura Loomer, Who Once Said ‘Bad Fajitas’ Were Worse Than COVID, Says She’s Tested Positive
Stephanie Keith/GettyThe far-right, anti-Muslim, anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer says she’s tested positive for the coronavirus, after suffering from severe symptoms that she wrote left her feeling like she “got hit by a bus.”In a post on the Trumpist social network Gettr, Loomer...
Then there's the case of 19 yr old Decatur City (AL) city council member Hunter Pepper.
He wasn't content to just be an isolated anti-vax, anti masker but felt the need to press for an end to mask mandates in a county with a 41% vax rate. Not sure he made "wise choices", but he was definitely determined to demonstrate his right to make his choices.
"Pepper, who is training to become an emergency medical technician, has routinely challenged pandemic-related restrictions as a city councilman, both slamming mask mandates and opting not to get vaccinated against the coronavirus, the outlet reported.
“I don’t believe you should be forced to do something like this, it’s wrong and it’s government overreach,” Pepper said in April as the city considered repealing a local mask mandate, according to WAFF.
“Me wearing a mask should be my choice,” Pepper said, days later, in an April 9 vote to end the city’s mask order, per WAAY."
Unvaxxed Teen Councilman Who Attacked Mask Mandates Now Battling ‘Terrible’ COVID Pneumonia
FacebookA teenage city council member in Morgan County, Alabama, who tested positive for COVID-19 on Wednesday after railing against mask mandates said he’s now battling coronavirus-related pneumonia in the hospital.“I am still shallow in breathing but my oxygen remains okay for now,” Decatur...
Not sure he feels that way now, esp since Wed when he told his Twitter posse "
"It feels terrible not to be able to breathe."
"Last month, Pepper, who became the youngest person elected to Decatur’s city council last year, vowed that he would “fight to the end” against another city mask mandate." (I'd characterize that particular statement as unintentional irony, esp the "end" part...)
Maybe if he recovers he'll learn a lesson. But being deadly sick with covid pneumonia in that part of AL would appear to be a pretty risky proposition...Even if you're just 19...
I don't take my health for granted and I never boast about it because you never know what tomorrow may bring. But I will say this. I was at an indoor event with 20,000 people three and a half week ago in a part of the country that's a Covid hotspot. I am 100% certain that the only reason I didn't contract Covid (or maybe I should say symptomatic Covid because who knows, but I feel fine) is because I was vaccinated. Vaccines work. It's sad this still needs to be said.
