you referring to the NAFTA agreement that Clinton signed in 1993? That Republican?
The GOP is trading soccer moms for Walmart dads.
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The majority of young people I know are from big urban areas from liberal families. I don’t think they are intimidated, I think it’s more likely what they believe. That’s a uniques situation though, I realize.
The extreme left isn’t in charge of the party. The extreme right runs their party and the moderates , like Susan Collins and Mitt Romney are shunned. You can name the squad as what you think are extreme right and their crazy ideas are Medicare for all. But please list the crazies on the left that come anywhere close to: MTG, Boebert, Gosart, Ron Johnson, Gym Jordan, Madison Cawthorn, Josh Hawley, off the top of my head. You have Republicans running with ties to the Proud Boys. What do you find similar in the left?
Zekes girls will bag their man, have some kids and eventually even out. Some will stay single for too long, grow jaded and stay violently progressive.
My circle has a lot of late 20's, early 30's IU grads. As to the males, they all loathe Biden (at least the ones building a nice career) although a majority of them had no love for Trump either. They're well-balanced younger millennial, fiscal conservatives.
Democrats better hope that SCOTUS comes after gay marriage, contraception, etc. because these social issues are not nearly as motivating as Zeke thinks.
White women are the death of Western Civilization.The demographics of the two parties are definitely shifting. This article explains much of what we've been seeing.
The great realignment
Even small inroads with Hispanic voters could tip a number of Democratic-held swing seats to the GOP.www.axios.com
I was sure to enlighten them on the differences and to inform them of the different places it all goes. We be dumb but not that dumb. lol
My financial advisor just showed me a study that Men are still not outliving women but the average age of death now is in the 84-86 range. I guess it depends on the study.Wait until she spends a huge amount of her takehome pay on health care, and she spends enough time on it to learn that her country is unique in its inefficiency. Pay more to live less.
6 year old article, but other analyses suggest that it has only gotten way way worse
U.S. Healthcare is a Global Outlier, and Not in a Good Way
Americans spent more than $3 trillion, or 17.5% of GDP, on healthcare in 2015. Are they getting any bang for their buck?www.visualcapitalist.com
They are educated and understand the concept of savings and making wise choices they will figure it out. I tell them YOLO so live it to the fullest and make sure you are financially able to do it for a long time.
The average life expectancy at birth for the U.S. indeed varies depending on the source. The latest figures are: 78.5 years, according to the OECD; 78.6 years, according to the CDC; 80.0 years, according to the CIA.
Life Expectancy by State 2024
The only way to get to the numbers that you stated (84-86) would be a projection for a person who has already reached a certain age.
For example, if I am now 70, my life expectancy may well be 85, since I for damn sure didn't die already, before 70.
If I am now 30, my life expectancy may well be less, say 82, since I might well die young, even before 70.
I am assuming that the overall projected figure is population-averaged for all people, based on their current age.
Was going to ask something similar. No one likes taxes, but people are also the first to bitch about roads, lack of parks, services, etc. People want a strong military yet don't want to pay taxes.
As hard as I lived my 20's and 30's I'll be lucky to see 70. lolThe average life expectancy at birth for the U.S. indeed varies depending on the source. The latest figures are: 78.5 years, according to the OECD; 78.6 years, according to the CDC; 80.0 years, according to the CIA.
Life Expectancy by State 2024
worldpopulationreview.com
The only way to get to the numbers that you stated (84-86) would be a projection for a person who has already reached a certain age.
For example, if I am now 70, my life expectancy may well be 85, since I for damn sure didn't die already, before 70.
If I am now 30, my life expectancy may well be less, say 82, since I might well die young, even before 70.
I am assuming that the overall projected figure is population-averaged for all people, based on their current age.
Seriously I'm 50 and he was in a room full of people my age or younger when he showed those projections. He also said that many in that room would probably be closer to 70-72 before they can receive their full social security benefit. I'm taking mine starting at 62 if allowed, have enough in investments (provided I don't loose it all this year and next) to supplement. Biggest key is having no debt, frees up a ton of what you can and cannot do in life.
Yeah, but given their background don't you see how your perception of the attitudes of the current youth could be skewed? Most of the youth you know were raised by liberal parents in a liberal urban area.
You said earlier that I shoukd meet more young people. Is it possible you need to diversify the type of young people you interact with?
And for the conservatives, I wasn't intimidated by the liberals, it just became a point where it wasn't worth it. If we are out at a party environment, I don't want to have this deep conversation with them that I knew they couldn't handle. And frankly I imagine that is about 10 times worse for today's kids.
Disney, HBO, Comcast, Google, Twitter, Facebook, Microsoft, Paramount, Netflix, the music industry, the vast majority of the rest of the entertainment industry, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, the majority of the University systems, etc. Yeah, there is no comparison in the bullhorns.
And given all that, you guys still always complain about this little sliver where your viewpoints aren't accepted as the norm. Fox News wins the ratings in comparison to the other networks but that is because you have a half dozen alternatives and the conservative folks feel like they have one. Sure there is OAN and Newsmax but what kind of package do you need for those channels. I couldn't tell you if they were on my dial or where they are. Talk radio? Really? So a small sliver of a shrinking medium?
And they have Reddit and Tik Tok.
Edit to add: Chinese owned Tik Tok is probably the number one thing most responsible for spreading some of the just absolute nonsense we see today. It is the vector of the social contagion.
TikTok is hardly comparable to 4chan and truth social. It’s mostly non voting age teenagers on the site.
We were talking about young people, no? Tik Tok is THE most influential thing for that demographic.
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It doesn’t matter. You can’t see it.
The majority of the right is way more politically right than the left is left.
As a registered independent, y’all need to turn your blinders off.
As a registered independent, y’all need to turn your blinders off.
oh man, sorry, not buying this
for instance, I don't agree with a complete defunding of the police but I do understand the history of the position. it's been on the spectrum of progressive civil rights/ police reform stances since the mid-20th century. I agree it's an extreme and unrealistic goal but at least it's rooted in something real. black neighborhoods really were policed differently for most of US history. I have no idea if that is still true today but at least I can kinda understand the grievance.
Then there is true bat-shit crazy extremism:
Most Republicans still falsely believe Trump’s stolen election claims. Here are some reasons why. - Poynter
In poll after poll, about 70% of Republicans say they don’t think Joe Biden is the legitimate winner of the 2020 election.
www.poynter.org
not even blaming the vast majority of republican folks who are going along with it. what can you do when a party aligns with 95% of your views but then also asks you to believe the earth is flat? cognitive bias is a bitch. but this is the kind of extremism that hollows out core ideals. extreme beyond belief. scary shit.
Defunding the police would lead to more crimes and deaths in high crime areas (aka black neighbors). It’s an extremely bat shit crazy position to take that would lead to more crimes and murders in lower income black neighborhoods. Also, most people in high crime areas don’t commit crimes and when polled they want more policing, not less.oh man, sorry, not buying this
for instance, I don't agree with a complete defunding of the police but I do understand the history of the position. it's been on the spectrum of progressive civil rights/ police reform stances since the mid-20th century. I agree it's an extreme and unrealistic goal but at least it's rooted in something real. black neighborhoods really were policed differently for most of US history. I have no idea if that is still true today but at least I can kinda understand the grievance.
Then there is true bat-shit crazy extremism:
Most Republicans still falsely believe Trump’s stolen election claims. Here are some reasons why. - Poynter
In poll after poll, about 70% of Republicans say they don’t think Joe Biden is the legitimate winner of the 2020 election.
not even blaming the vast majority of republican folks who are going along with it. what can you do when a party aligns with 95% of your views but then also asks you to believe the earth is flat? cognitive bias is a bitch. but this is the kind of extremism that hollows out core ideals. extreme beyond belief. scary shit.
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agree, but still not anywhere near as extreme as saying a legit presidential election was stolen. countries can survive crime waves but not a series of "illegitimate" leaders.
Actual social change occurs for humanitarian reasons not political. What ranger calls indoctrination is simply young people communicating with the world at large.
You’re not bring realistic if you honestly think those are liberal , ABC is owned by Sinclair. Disney, liberal? Seriously? Facebook ? Again seriously ? As for Netflix , Microsoft, Google… how in the world are they liberal platforms?
Aka right-to-work laws. Minimum wage jobs. A lot of poor suckers vote Republican these days.
I disagree (surprise!). I think most of the working poor and middle class just want to be left alone and not pandered to by politicians only looking to buy their vote.
They know that rarely does any of the promised money or services reach them. But they can count on tax cuts and cheaper energy to benefit them immediately, and that's what Republicans offer.
I don't think the Republican Party is looking to court voters by promising them 'programs'. They are running minorities candidates in state offices and putting a new face on Republicansim - literally.
Democrats think minorities can be led around by false promises and a complicit media. Minorities are not stupid and can see through that charade. They won't want woke-ism and have seen what socialism does in their former countries.
In short, they're Americans and don't want to be treated differently just because they're from a different background.
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I have no idea what point you’re trying to make. The extreme left in our major cities is putting hardened criminals back out onto the streets. The extreme left shuts down debate that makes them “uncomfortable.” The extreme left shows up to protest someone getting killed by police who was being chased after pumping bullets into a house full of children.oh man, sorry, not buying this
for instance, I don't agree with a complete defunding of the police but I do understand the history of the position. it's been on the spectrum of progressive civil rights/ police reform stances since the mid-20th century. I agree it's an extreme and unrealistic goal but at least it's rooted in something real. black neighborhoods really were policed differently for most of US history. I have no idea if that is still true today but at least I can kinda understand the grievance.
Then there is true bat-shit crazy extremism:
Most Republicans still falsely believe Trump’s stolen election claims. Here are some reasons why. - Poynter
In poll after poll, about 70% of Republicans say they don’t think Joe Biden is the legitimate winner of the 2020 election.
not even blaming the vast majority of republican folks who are going along with it. what can you do when a party aligns with 95% of your views but then also asks you to believe the earth is flat? cognitive bias is a bitch. but this is the kind of extremism that hollows out core ideals. extreme beyond belief. scary shit.
Spare me the 1/6 fainting couch nonsense as some sort of wild card that beats all other cards. It doesn’t. I’ll never vote for Trump but I’ll not vote for a progressive democrat under any circumstance.
Mom shot at by Tekle Sundberg expresses outrage; family says both incidents deserve attention
What started as a rally for a man shot and killed by Minneapolis Police quickly took a turn after the mother of two nearly hit by bullets while inside her apartment showed up to share her story on Saturday afternoon.
These are your people - so afflicted by their indoctrinated white guilt that they’ll protest the killing of an armed man that shot into a house full of kids. These are your people - and their extremity is much more real in our lives than uneducated rubes that think the election was stolen.
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Following up on indoctrinated white guilt, we are a Clown World.I have no idea what point you’re trying to make. The extreme left in our major cities is putting hardened criminals back out onto the streets. The extreme left shuts down debate that makes them “uncomfortable.” The extreme left shows up to protest someone getting killed by police who was being chased after pumping bullets into a house full of children.
Spare me the 1/6 fainting couch nonsense as some sort of wild card that beats all other cards. It doesn’t. I’ll never vote for Trump but I’ll not vote for a progressive democrat under any circumstance.
Mom shot at by Tekle Sundberg expresses outrage; family says both incidents deserve attention
What started as a rally for a man shot and killed by Minneapolis Police quickly took a turn after the mother of two nearly hit by bullets while inside her apartment showed up to share her story on Saturday afternoon.www.fox9.com
These are your people - so afflicted by their indoctrinated white guilt that they’ll protest the killing of an armed man that shot into a house full of kids. These are your people - and their extremity is much more real in our lives than uneducated rubes that think the election was stolen.
Indianapolis (and Marion County) is very much a Democrat area.I have no idea what point you’re trying to make. The extreme left in our major cities is putting hardened criminals back out onto the streets. The extreme left shuts down debate that makes them “uncomfortable.” The extreme left shows up to protest someone getting killed by police who was being chased after pumping bullets into a house full of children.
Spare me the 1/6 fainting couch nonsense as some sort of wild card that beats all other cards. It doesn’t. I’ll never vote for Trump but I’ll not vote for a progressive democrat under any circumstance.
Mom shot at by Tekle Sundberg expresses outrage; family says both incidents deserve attention
What started as a rally for a man shot and killed by Minneapolis Police quickly took a turn after the mother of two nearly hit by bullets while inside her apartment showed up to share her story on Saturday afternoon.
These are your people - so afflicted by their indoctrinated white guilt that they’ll protest the killing of an armed man that shot into a house full of kids. These are your people - and their extremity is much more real in our lives than uneducated rubes that think the election was stolen.
It also has an "extreme left" (using Ranger's wording). At the last city budget meeting the extreme left was represented by two council members who voted against a budget proposal which increased the funds going to public safety along with several citizens who attended the meeting calling for defunding the police.
However when the final vote came after all the extreme left smoke cleared the hall, the final tally was an additional $3.3 million to the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department, Office of Public Health and Safety and Information Services Agency.
The budget including the increase in public safety funding passed by a 23-2 vote.
The Democratic politicians in Indianapolis aren't completely stupid. With a murder rate higher than Chicago, they aren't about to cut funds going to the police and give the Republicans the edge on an issue which is of utmost importance to the citizens of Marion County.
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