Per Dick Vitale …
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“I'm shocked, shocked, to find that gambling is going on in here."
Should surprise no one. Pandora’s box has been opened. Ironic too since Dicky V had been pleading to pay players for 2 decades.
Yeah, who could have predicted this!
Nothing will happen. Have to prove it and then enforce it. The floodgates have opened.
Serious cheating in the portal. Not NIL. Nothing is illegal in NIL. It is BS. I give you 100 grand to say Cavanagh is awesome or 100 bucks. Both legal.
I've never understood why people thought that the NIL would curtail cheating. Just because someone can make a bit of money legally doesn't mean that they can't do that...and still make more under the table. There will always be more from someone.
Nothing to see here... Nothing will be done... Ever! The National Association of Cash Cow will NEVER turn off the faucet of cash pouring into their coffers. Just like the FBI investigations. Prove me wrong.
Again, this is not about NIL. It is legal for me to give TJD a million dollars tomorrow to sponsor Cavanagh's Corner.
Yikes actually this is worse that NIL money. Bribing kids to leave is what this comes down to. FBI will love this.
Ya it is a coach saying you should leave IU come play for UCLA. That is happening now (not that exact example). A lot.
We know how the NCAA selectively punishes cheaters. Some are above it. Kansas and UNC cheated, so Memphis will get hammered.
This is the other Pandora’s box they opened. I’m glad kids don’t have to sit a yr but if they’re being baited with bribes we’ve got a HUGE problem. This kind of shit gets the Feds’ attention.
They don’t slaughter your cash cows. They go F up the Cleveland States instead.
How awesome was it when one of the biggest cash cows slaughtered itself.
Even if you pay the players there will always someone that will give them more.
Paying players wouldn't make a difference.
Ah yeah….laid down on our own sword. Still recovering
I'm not saying this particular cheating scandal had anything to do with the NIL. I'm saying that it never made any sense for people to suggest that having the NIL would eliminate cheating. I don't care how much a kid could make via the NIL. There is always more somewhere else.
Wouldn’t surprise me if Vitale has a couple black SUVs show up in his driveway soon.
I expected the NIL would open new avenues for schools to cheat. There would be so much cheating the NCAA couldn't or wouldn't enforce their own rules. Kansas and UNC got away with murder before and are untouchable now..
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If you are going to have money involved in amateur sports then you have to have all teams and all players receive the exact same amount for it to be fair. If you do it anyway else then you are allowing some teams to have a huge advantage. This thing stinks to high heaven.
I'm not sure i understand what you mean. If there is money to be made, its legal. Where is getting it somewhere else, illegal? To me, these transactions happened but now there are more deals for players available and they're over the table instead of under.
Again, these payments were already happening. Meaning these advantages were already in place. You're just now seeing it.
I guess - as long as the cringeworthy interviews with “student”-athletes whose command of their native tongue would be embarrassing in an eighth grader come to an end - I can live with that.
There are restrictions to NIL. One of the main ones (unless it’s been changed) is that quid pro quo payments are not allowed. Meaning that NIL benefits can’t be tied to something like attending a particular university. You don’t think some will abuse this? There will always be cheating. Just because a kid can make some money legally doesn’t mean there won’t be more illegal money available. Or do you actually believe we’ve seen the end of NCAA violations?
Wonder if CNN will already be there with cameras rolling at 6am? By coincidence, of course.
“Intentional interference with contractual rights”
The school cant sue - but the folks paying the player can.
The school cant sue - but the folks paying the player can.
Nice quote.
Claude Rains in Casablanca. Some say the greatest movie ever made.
Not true. NIL can’t be used for recruiting purposes. and there’s something called fair market compensation—100K to say you’re awesome wouldn’t fly. Probably should check back in with IU compliance pronto.
I don’t understand why this is cheating. NIL is legal. Offer any player anywhere anything.
But that is not illegal (am I correct?).
A school May say “enter the portal, come to us, and we will give you X amount of dollars”. That may be unethical but not illegal. Or am I wrong?
And IU can get in the game. Better than sitting at home watching cheaters playing in the final 4.
There’s rules that go along with NIL—if you want to actually follow them and not put your program in jeopardy.
I didn’t say NIL could be used for recruiting. I said that I could pay someone, let’s say TJD 100k to promote me. I could also pay Logan duncomb $100 for the same thing.
Fair market value yes, but when a player reaches TJD status, you can give them as much as you want and No1 will ask questions. If I gave Logan 100k people would, but why would anyone do that?
you talk to compliance.
