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Metformin was working well for me and then I got kidney cancer. They took me off it and it's been a struggle since.
Don't believe snopes? That's a you problem.
Biden never implemented the Trump EO.
No, neither of us have Type 1.
I'm not arguing who needs it more. I'm saying Trump implemented a policy and Biden took credit for it, after he froze Trump's plan.
Did you read the link I posted that Biden fronze Trump's plan?It absolutely stayed in effect until 2023 when it was made mandatory for all Medicare recipients. Did you read the link I gave you? It lays it all out. Here’s another one that explains it for you.
VERIFYING the difference between $35 insulin caps under Biden and Trump
Both the Trump and Biden administrations enacted $35 insulin price caps for certain Medicare recipients. Trump’s was first, but Biden’s applies to more people.www.verifythis.com
He is an angry imbecile. If the Pubs had launched him 4 years ago they would be in position for a strong argument to retake the WH. They could still regroup, concede this election in theory, and come back strong in 4 years, but they won’t. They don’t have the character to do so.
The Republicans made a choice a few years ago to go with voter suppression and work for autocracy, as opposed to moderating their message to align with the public. They saw the changing demographics and chose an unfit doofus instead of competing as fellow Americans with competing ideas. Trump may still win, and that will be a chaotic ride for the country in the short time it lasts.
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Almost makes you forget about the other 51 weeks of the year, doesn't it?
You're mixing up two different things. Biden froze ALL of Trump's new and pending regulations from going into effect so that they could review them. This is typical for a new administration. However, the insulin measure that was frozen for 60 days was not the voluntary $35 per month measure. Instead. what was frozen was an insulin cost reduction measure solely targeting federally qualified health centers. it was supposed to go into effect Jan. 22, 2021, and was delayed until March 22, 2021. The voluntary $35 program was not affected by this in any manner. It continued under Biden until his administration administered an across the board measure for all Medicare patients - a measure which the Republicans tried to block in the House. In fact, Kamala Harris had to break the tie in the House.
Fact check: Biden administration delays implementation of Trump rule on insulin, EpiPens
The Trump executive order on the cost of insulin and EpiPens at community health centers isn't being reversed, as some claim. The rule is on hold.
www.usatoday.com
Biden freeze hits two Trump drug price rules | CNN Politics
A freeze by the new Biden administration on Trump-era regulations will hit at least two rules aimed at lowering drug prices, including one dealing with insulin and EpiPens for under-served patients.
This theme has pretty much always been my core dissention from supporting conservative Republican platforms.
I should be an easy convert as a small town, business obsessed dude but the technique style hasn't really changed from what I remember during my lifetime.
In my corporate career the overwhelming best and most successful leaders were those that could develop the most effective and logistical complex problem solving solutions. First those stars also were masters at identifying and explaining the barriers we had to problem solve to succeed. As Clinton joked about in his speech in paraphrasing 'I am proud of being called and known as the Explainer in Chief'.
My quick response is I've never experienced a Republican message that effectively identified the real issues while also selling, convincing me on their proposed complex solutions, beliefs to these issues. Issues that impact every citizen.
The Dems, regardless of how extreme I felt their identified issues were, they better explained itself that I understood the concern but better yet, the solutions proposed were more creative. Most importantly for me, the belief that it will help and positively impact everyone.
That's brilliant problem solving that I'm looking for from Republican campaign messaging.
Most of my lifetime the messaging has been heavy scapegoating and insecure victim identification (you obviously need the scapegoat to detest to think you're a victim).
Trump has heavily leaned into that simple messaging that I am literally bummed that a huge chunk of citizens are buying into his fear mongering and scapegoating while offering no unique problem solving options. More violence and hammering the identified scapegoats.
We're better than that. I'm still waiting for another Perot reaction that I got in the early 90's as he was nothing but problem solving options etc.
Perot is the closest I've come to being a Republican lean all because he effectively communicated his goals.
Lol I still have his 'Not for sale at any price' book that I loved and connected with, but again he identified issues and presented what I believed effective solutions to them m. Pre internet circa 1992.
That's my expectation and demand from either party to get my vote. I ly the Dems have done that in my voting life (my first Dem vote was Gore in 2000 as I voted Perot in 92 and 96).
I could go through a laundry list of policies; what I agree with or disagree with on both sides, but I have no desire to bore people with my opinion, and mostly because my disgust with the Republican Party supersedes my desire to entertain drilling down on policy. To me, Republican policy in practice is tax cuts for the rich
and blocking anything a Dem President wants to accomplish, even if it’s something they agree with. And continuing to prop up Trump is a complete deal breaker for me on many levels.
But I also tend to gravitate toward Republicans on a personal level and don’t enjoy arguing with people I like over politics. Hell, there’s people on this board that I only know through their online persona and who I disagree with vehemently on politics, but I refuse to get into an argument (unless I’ve had a few drinks 🤣) because I’m pretty sure I’d like them in the real world. I grew up when the saying, “Don’t talk politics or religion with friends or family” was the social norm. Now, that’s all everyone wants to talk about openly, and in fairness, it is what this board is for.
Sorry to hear that….I wish you well with your treatment and outcome
It's cruel to give people money to buy healthy foods? Y'all are weird.
Sorry, to hear that. I hope you get to feeling better.
The constant thing that America is a shithole, that your life sucks, and that everything is awful everyday has a shelf life. The tone and tenor between the two campaigns and parties is striking. I get why people are getting energized by the Ds. They aren’t the one hammering us that we are miserable.
I’d of course prefer a competent GOP candidate with a positive message for our country, but here we are.
Yeah I’m sure you care about school children and the poor as long as they aren’t dems and they see the world as you do. With your posts it laughable that you care about the less fortunate.
In your world let’s just pretend if we don’t acknowledge it they won’t do it. Let’s just let people who are going to do what they do regardless spread disease and death by using dirty needles. Do I like it, not really but why don’t you enlighten us as to your solution. I know, just lock up all the drug users. That will fix it. You seem to think you have all the answers. Your theory is the same as the puritans saying if we don’t talk about sex kids won’t have it. How’s that working out in your idyllic world. Drug use is an awful plague of which the entire world struggles with. Some of us don’t whine and complain without providing a solution.
Why should the poor be immune to the same advertising we are bombarded with that drives us to consume things that aren’t good for us. Why don’t you just ban every that’s not good for us? You know, junk food, booze, cigarettes, etc. since you seem to care about the people.
Well, let's think about this from a rational policy perspective. Those foods often lead to health problems and it doesn't make much sense to spend money to help feed people things that are likely to lead to increased Healthcare costs (also likely to be covered through some sort of "welfare" policy) later down the road.
We already don't allow them to use government funds to buy booze and cigarettes, maybe cutting back on the sugar and processed stuff would be a good idea too. When you have to go to the public to fund your lifestyle, you lose some choice. Sorry.
I would have no issue requiring SNAP benefits be used for “real” food. I don’t see that position being controversial.
Trump doesn’t talk to you, Fox News professionals, or anybody on this board. We all read and hear differently than the average voter who doesn’t hang out on political message boards.
Simple language and simple messages always engages readers and listeners more than complexity.
Her speech was well delivered and hit some key points considered weak spots for her. I was hoping she would spend less time on Trump and more on her considering the entire week was about trump.
In an ideal world that would be great. However, SNAO benefits have never been enough to buy strictly healthy foods. So you at least buy something that puts food in a hungry child’s stomach.
Have know SNAP beneficiaries and their struggles. I’ve also know a few beneficiaries who are perfectly capable of working who don’t but gladly take those benefits. There’s no simple solution.
So are you saying he dumbs it down for the dumb? The problem with his message is that it makes little sense. You know like windmills give you cancer, choice between being eaten by a shark or electrocuted by boat batteries or praising Hannibal Lecter. Does he know he’s a fictional character?
Is it okay to shit post now that it's over? If so, does this about sum up the last 4 days at the UncleMark bunker?
In the past I could have cared less what party a candidate was from as long as they were willing to compromise for the good of the country. Tip O’Neal and Ronald Reagan couldn’t have been further apart in their political leanings. But they worked together well because they were willing to work together and give a little. The recent Border Security legislation is a perfect example of compromise on both sides. But Orange Jesus had it killed. So he and the house republicans care only about themselves. No compromise.
Recently saw a segment on an unnamed congressional republican who said it would have had nearly unanimous support had he not intervened.
Would never want either party to be the only ones in power. If you only have like minded sycophants it not good for the country.
That border bill was good in the sense that it was an incremental improvement from the Biden/ Harris status quo.
Obviously as a long term immigration solution it was wholly inadequate.
In the sense that politics is the art of the possible, maybe Republicans should have passed it and tried to move the ball further later.
But don’t blow smoke up our ass that it was some kind of long term border solution.
No. You are repeating media/dem spin. It was not an incremental improvement. The bill was a disaster because it codified Biden/Harris/Mayorkas administrative view of asylum seekers and tethered future administrations to their view.
You are right. I was trying to offer some grace, but Biden/ Harris/ Mayorkas do not deserve any.
Of course it’s not a long term solution. It was a compromised start. Back in W’s presidency the gang of 8 had a border bill agreed to by the leaders of both house of congress. Hence the term the gang of 8. And once again who torpedoed it? Pretty sure you know. The republicans don’t really seem serious about solving the issue but rather they’d rather fund raise and demonize the other side. The far left and far right need to move to the center on this issue. The truth is that there aren’t enough in far left to kill a border bill. The same can not be said of the far right. As long as the MAGA cult is in charge instead of real republicans nothing will get done.
The Democratic Party seems intent on allowing a certain level of leakage and amnesty abuse.
There’s one party who’s not serious about the border, and it’s not republicans.
Depending where you live, there might not be a produce section/market nearby or on a convenient bus route so people can use those benefits the way you have decided how other people should use them.
You gotta eat something.
Food is quite literally the basis of existence. If you’re not willing to go out of your way to ensure you eat quality food, then you deserve to die.
Maybe it really is 70% and they’re just not telling us so as to keep taking the special privileges that have been bestowed on marginalized groups. Well, we do know that East Indians and Jamaicans are now “Black”. Evolution tells us there is safety in numbers, that is, more numbers mean more power to get your way.
Something just turned up on my AOL feed after turning on my laptop on for the first time in a month. In the upper right corner it popped up “Barack Obama Day was 19 days ago.” Yep, in the state of Illinois they have Aug 4 as a designated celebration. Their state legislature did defeat the initial bill that would have made it a paid holiday with no school, there is a county in Alabama has passed it as a designated holiday with official businesses closed. That Democratic Leftists at AOL would feed me this BS, along with noting Islamic holiday reminders, frosts my ass with its more conservative Midwestern values.
Just a bit of reality check for you. In any government program be it democratic or republican, there’s always leakage and abuse. It seems you want to totally ignore the facts as always. The republicans killed the last two efforts at reform. So niw who isn’t serious? You’re just being stupid in support of your far right agenda.
Let’s just do what your Dear Leader wants to do and deport 11 million illegal immigrants. Do you have any idea what that will do to the US economy? I’m sure you don’t. You just seem to dislike those who don’t look or believe as you do. The CBO estimates that immigration will generate 7 trillion dollars in GDP over the next 10 years. This information come from none other than that bastion of liberal journalism Bloomberg. And I can absolutely guarantee you that if illegal immigrants from Florida were deported, the states economy would crater. No construction, no lawn care, no service workers, thousands of businesses across all industries. We live here and see it everyday. And let me tell you they work extremely hard in miserable outdoor working conditions in the summer. They don’t take jobs from Americans. That’s a stupid tired argument. There aren’t enough Americans to do the jobs and many Americans believe some of these jobs are beneath them or to hard for what they get paid. You never see corporate America complains about immigration because they love cheap labor.
You can buy canned vegetables on Amazon (and they are SNAP EBT eligible) I don't buy that.
If they need government money to buy food, the government should be able (and does) regulate what kind of food that money should be for.
I hate this narrative. There is not a single family in America where the parents are so busy and so burnt out that they can’t make a trip to the grocery store once a week. Do it on a Sunday. Great day for it.
People act like we live in the 19th century. “We can’t get our buggy into town, but more than once a month, we have to evade the Injuns y’all know” type world.
Come off it. We all know inherently when we’re eating crap and when we’re eating healthy. That’s why people like Steakhouses so much. Because some good beef and potatoes and asparagus and crab is a damn good meal. Both on the mouth but for the body.
No one is happy in McDonalds or Taco Bell.
